
(photo: Images by John “K”)
Four Bay Area Rapid Transit system (BART) stations in San Francisco had their cell phone service shut down on Thursday, August 11, to prevent a planned protest from materializing. James Allison, deputy chief communications officer for BART, reports BART staff or contractors shut down power “to the nodes and alerted the cell carriers,” including AT&T, Sprint, Verizon and T-Mobile.
A group called “No Justice, No BART” intended to descend upon BART stations to protest the shooting of Charles Hill, a homeless man who BART police officers killed on July 3. They planned to show up inconspicuously and then come together on the platform and, at about 5 pm, pull out signs and demand the officer that shot Hill be fired. They also intended to demand the police chief be fired for lying at a press conference on the shooting and issue calls for the BART police be disbanded.
BART Police Intelligence picked up on plans for the protest and believed the action would lead to “platform overcrowding and unsafe conditions for BART customers, employees and demonstrators.” BART thought organizers intended to use mobile devices to coordinate “disruptive activities” and communicate about the location and number of BART Police in stations. So, as BART spokesman said, the service was shut down so the protest wouldn’t “become viral.”
“A cost benefit analysis of where your freedom of speech begins to threaten the public safety” was done, Johnson said. In non-newspeak, this means BART found it appropriate to censor communications to obstruct free speech and assembly.
Eva Galperin of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) wrote in reaction to the possibly unprecedented move, “BART officials had shown themselves to be of a mind with the former president of Egypt, Hosni Mubarak, who ordered the shutdown of cell phone service in Tahrir Square in response to peaceful, democratic protests earlier this year.” Cutting off service, she added, constitutes “prior restrain on the free speech rights of every person in the station, whether they’re a protestor or a commuter.”
BART Exploits Commuters’ Desire to “Get Home” in Video
Not only did BART cut off cell phone service but they also had BARTtv, their own public relations or propaganda operation, which posts videos to YouTube, go to a BART platform and ask commuters about the protesters’ plans. They sent reporter Mark Jones to talk to commuters. (Note: This author won’t call him a “reporter”—Jones was acting as an agent for a government agency, an operative for BART. He is a walking insult to those who actually are reporters.)
Like good propaganda should, the video attempts to create and shape events and influence public relations as they relate to BART. The video opens by noting protesters planned to interrupt or even shut down BART service. Images of an increased BART police presence on platforms so any protest could be quickly put down are shown.
The video then offers interviews with commuters who each want to just get home. Two of the individuals interviewed have “kids and family.” The impetus of putting these people on screen is designed to invite condemnation of Bay Area citizens, who would dare to draw attention to BART police brutality during rush hour when commuters are headed home after a long day.
Agent Jones asks a white middle class, middle-aged man, who has a family, what he thinks of the protesters’ goals. The man says, “I have no idea what the protesters’ goal is.” Of course, BARTtv doesn’t bother to fill in the blank here and explain why protests are happening. This is all designed to make it seem like some citizens just want to go riot for kicks and get in the way of BART service.
Someone with BART public relations makes it seem like BART was about to be the victim of a “flytilla,” as he makes the unsubstantiated claim that people were going to be flying in from all over the country from a “multitude of groups” to do “surprise attacks” on BART. From that comment, it would be easy to confuse protesters with terrorists (the only difference being protesters have no intention of committing violence that would result in the loss of innocent life).
A middle-aged black nurse appears on camera and expresses relief that BART beefed up police presence on the platforms. She is happy her train isn’t going to be held up and that the madness that occurred during a previous protest is not happening this time. As Agent Jones summarizes, trying to come in and shut down BART for political reasons did not sit well with BART commuters.
Commuters may not like that protesters wished to protest, but family and friends of Oscar Grant don’t like that BART police killed him when he was already handcuffed and lying face down on a BART platform in 2009. Family and friends of Fred Collins don’t like that he was essentially assassinated at a Fruitvale station in 2010 despite the fact that he had put his hands up in the air. And, unfortunately, it doesn’t matter what some nurse or family man thinks about the protests. Needing to get home is not a legitimate justification for obstructing civil liberties.
The production of this video is a conscious manipulation of a situation, a clear attempt to mold the opinion of Bay Area citizens and others in the world. If BART can use commuters to promote the violation of free speech in its facilities, what else can it do? Could they use it to promote “stop and searches” of black or Hispanic youths? Maybe they might produce a video to promote what appears to be a policy of “shoot first, ask questions later.”
CNN Brings on a Criminologist to Address the Shutdown
While little television coverage came as a result of BART’s decision, CNN did do a segment. Out of the many possible guests that could have done such a segment CNN went with Dr. Casey Jordan, an “in-house contributor to TruTV’s “In Session.” (TruTV is a sister network of CNN.)
The segment is not as bad as BARTtv’s. At least viewers get to see riders’ reactions to the fact that they have had their cell phone service cut off. And CNN even puts a “would-be protester” on camera. What is appalling is how Jordan appears to be doing the work of BART public relations in her appearance on the show:
I haven’t been able to find another incident in which this has happened. I think perhaps it is unprecedented, and yet, that’s how these legal issues come to light and get debated. Whether it’s legal or not, it hasn’t been tested in the courts. Public safety exceptions to or encroachments on our personal freedoms do happen. And remember, we just had evidence of that protest getting out of control last month. Of course, everybody wants their personal freedoms. They fear censorship. They’re all worried about living in a police state. Yet when a protest turns into violence and people get hurt, they love to blame the police. So, you can’t have it both ways. The public relations department did make this decision, but I’m sure they did it after consulting their counsel within the police department.
Suppose it is worth it to define “criminologist.” A “criminologist” analyzes crime and criminal behavior and attempts to provide explanation as to who commits crime and why they do it. It’s unclear what “crime” she is providing expertise on for this segment. Protesting is not a crime. If she is here to help viewers discern whether law enforcement stepped over a line, she seems to have quickly determined they didn’t. Additionally, she isn’t bothered by the fact that commuters wouldn’t have been able to use their phones to dial 9/11.
You have to ask yourself, do you have a fundamental right to cell service? How did the world work before 911? I think what the police did, and we saw some of that in the video, is they really made their police presence known at that particular station, where the protest was going to happen. And as much as we are so reliant on our cell phones, the bottom line is, when you can simply shout for help, ask others to help you out, I think there’s still police call boxes, anyone can flag down a police officer, at the same time nothing bad did happen. But if it had happened, we may not see so much public support for that particular tactic.
Who needs 9/11 services on BART? Just load the platform with cops carrying batons and other weapons. People can go up to an officer in a riot helmet and ask for help from the stormtroopers if they needed. If they are bleeding and need help, the police will help get emergency assistance. And if “overcrowding” as a result of the presence results, what does it matter. One wonders why this isn’t standard operating procedure for BART already.
Not convinced Jordan is repeating BART public relations talking points? She says almost the same thing BART deputy chief communications officer James Allison said:
…The framers of the Constitution could not possibly have foreseen the world that we now live in with our smartphones and Wi-Fi and hot spots. The bottom line is: it was a lot different 200 years ago when your protest was standing on a soapbox on the street corner. Now, you can incite people with misinformation with calls to violence and in many ways things can get out of hand.
It really is just a cost/benefit analysis of where your freedom of speech begins to threaten the public safety. And, again, they did use intelligence. This was a — they did verify the protest, and they were simply trying to stop a repeat of what happened last month.
Fascinatingly, the CNN anchor asks Jordan to address UK Prime Minister David Cameron’s suggestion that the United Kingdom shut down social media services during demonstrations. She doesn’t side with Cameron:
I absolutely agree that it’s a slippery slope. What we saw with the BART situation was temporary. It was perhaps a few minutes to a few hours. I’m not sure. But doing it as total public policy where it is unbridled censorship where you’re shutting down things and only the law mangers at the helm are deciding for how long and what purpose, that is dangerous.
And so, civil rights advocates argue that we could end up living in a police state if this policy starts encroaching on personal freedoms. And yet everybody wants to be safe. I think it’s going to end up in the courts and they will be final determinants of what the state can and cannot do.
Criminologist Jordan thinks Cameron’s calls for a shut down are a “slippery slope” but BART’s is not, which is ridiculous. If BART can temporarily shut down cell phone services, what’s to stop them from permanently entrenching the power to shut down services like Cameron is interested in doing?
Jordan says nothing on why protesters intended to protest. She fixates on the possibility of a “safety issue,” which BART intended to prevent but doesn’t bother to identify the motives of the people, who would have created this “safety issue.” Again, it’s as if BART is the victim of spontaneous protest and the issue of BART police brutality is not related at all.
Making Fraudulence and Deception Sound Truthful
The government-owned BART agency and individuals like Dr. Casey Jordan have the capacity to use communications to make sense of an event. They can manipulate communication so the cause of order is ultimately advocated for and preserved. That cause of order can be made to seem more crucial and important than freedom and liberty. People like Jordan can go on TV and repeat versions of talking points, which ensure the public thinks about something within certain boundaries acceptable to an agency like BART.
Despite what criminologist Dr. Casey Jordan might contend, the clampdown on people who seek to exercise their First Amendment rights does not appear to be temporary. BART said yesterday it was instituting the following rule:
No person shall conduct or participate in assemblies or demonstrations or engage in other expressive activities in the paid areas of BART stations, including BART cars and trains and BART station platforms.
This cannot be a constitutional rule, especially since BART is a government agency. And, as the ACLU wrote, if this is all permissible, “Where do we draw the line? These protestors were using public transportation to get to the demonstration — should the government be able to shut that down too?”
Citizens have the right to freely express themselves. Attempt to silence protesters in any instance should be considered a threat to democracy. That an action could turn “violent” is a possibility that may or may not reasonably exist, but in the case of civil disobedience or civil resistance, where protesters do try to shut down service, that is why law enforcement is there—to regulate. So, in those instances, BART cops can arrest people and defuse a situation.

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The Aftermath of the Shutdown
Anonymous has organized in response to BART’s move. The operation—#OpBART—calls for a protest at Civic Center station in solidarity with people who believe it is important to stand up for their rights. They intend to show up in “blood” stained shirts “for remembrance to the blood that is on the hands of the BART police.” And, they ask those not in San Francisco to use black fax, email bombs and phone calls to the BART Board of Directors.
Anonymous is prepared to record the protest to combat any further attempts by media (such as BARTtv) to spin the actions of protesters and make it seem like protesters have violent intentions.
Those angry by the actions of BART are being encouraged to file a complaint with the FCC.
Jacob Appelbaum, a computer security researcher who works on the Tor Project, and Christopher Soghoian, a privacy and security researcher, filed a Freedom of Information Act request (which can be viewed here). Pursuant to the state records act, the request calls for access to:
1. All emails, memos and other records of communications within BART, between BART and anywireless communication carrier, and between BART and any local, state or federal lawenforcement or intelligence agency regarding the “temporary wireless service interruption inselect BART stations” on August 11, 2011.This includes any legal opinions, whether formal or informal, regarding the legality of the interruption.
2. All contracts between BART and any wireless carrier or other company regarding the provisionof wireless telephone service within BART stations.
3. Network maps and other diagrams or schematics detailing the number and placement oftowers, “backhaul” cables, and other carrier equipment located on BART property (includingproperty leased by BART).
4. Surveys, studies and other documents detailing wireless signal coverage in all BART stations orareas outside the station served by towers located on or near BART property (including propertyleased by BART).
5. Documents and other records indicating the class of service outage that occurred on August 11,2011. Specifically, documents that reveal what service classes (including 911 calls) remained available after the temporary interruption



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shows how vulnerable we are to the powers that be
BUT it’s social media that’s revealing the transgression against our freedom and rights
Perfect demonstration, just turn things off.
Prediction: Coming to DC in October.
This is an excellent article. Thank you so much for the work that you put into producing it.
So, does this mean that, in the 21st Century, no protest will be possible without a live twitter-feed?…
..and that despotic regimes will be able to shut down revolts by blocking the internet??…Really???
Great reporting, Kevin. Very sinister times we live in.
Very well-reported, thank you, Kevin.
I love the excuse, sounds like a test drive: “Well, passengers didn’t have cell service in BART stations until two years ago, so it’s not a civil right to use cell phones to communicate and assemble.”
I do think it shows a striking lack of confidence by BART management in the capability of BART cops to handle and defuse peaceful demonstrations without, frankly, killing participants or bystanders. Best to disable every passenger’s communications rather than risk the safety of demonstrators and other BART passengers at the hands of their hired killer thugs.
“America didn’t have twitter until last year, so shutting it down isn’t such a terrible hardship.”
“Cell phones didn’t exist during the 1970s Marches on Washington, so the demonstrators don’t have a right to them now.”
I was not aware that BART would even have the ability to shut down the Internet. There must have been some long term thinking to come up with that. What if an accident happened and that was the only way to reach people perhaps trapped? Fools are running gov’t at every level.
Access to a clear cell signal is not a civil liberty. If it was, then every government would be mandated to provide cell coverage (and hell, why not a cell phone also?). to every citizen. BART saw a potential danger to its customers and mitigated that danger as best they could.
They did not muzzle anyone, they did not take away the signs of protesters, and they did not beat the dissenters with batons. They simply kept an expected protest from spinning out of control.
And not being able to access 911 service? How does that put a rider in danger when the security presence was admittedly beefed up manage these protests? I was not there, but I’ll bet you couldn’t swing a dead cat without hitting a security officer on that day.
Simple message to anyone organizing a protest, no mater how mild.
Be prepared for a communications black out.
This heinous denial of basic rights must have happened in Iran or Syria. *reads article* San Francisco? Just wow.
Oh hell, now I’m going to be labeled a cat-killer.
Access does not mean the government is required to provide cell coverage to all people at all. Access is access. If something is done to prevent someone with a phone from having that access, that is a problem.
The airwaves are licensed by the FCC to private companies. If they abuse the license they have over the airwaves, they deserve to be met with condemnation.
Now that blocking cell phones has been proven to work, we may be assured that the tactic will be used again. And again…
I’m not a constitutional scholar, but isn’t the “right to peaceably assemble” sorta bein’ jacked around with here? Just sayin’…
I would suggest that anyone whose service was jacked up in this situation call their carriers and demand adjustments to their bills for the inconvenience. Don’t ask, demand. If the frontline personnel don’t give you what you want, then escalate. And if you still don’t get satisfaction, write a letter to the FCC and copy the carrier. Fuck ‘em…
Good point. Criminologist Dr. Jordan, who covered Natalee Holloway and the Casey Anthony trial closely—two media events that clearly makes what she thinks about this credible, contends anyone in an emergency could have just ushered a cop in riot gear over to help.
Rescheduled for Monday, FYI to Bay Area commuter peeps:
http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/2011/08/bart-protests-rescheduled-monday-rush-hour-civic-center#.TkbcRunbXOg.facebook
The shadowy protest group known as Anonymous is planning a protest for rush hour on Monday at the Civic Center BART station, following a false start Thursday that prompted transit officials to shut down underground cell service to prevent protesters from communicating about police locations.
The group’s website says the newly scheduled action is again aimed at the shooting deaths of unarmed men by BART police, and that protesters will be wearing blood-stained shirts Monday “for remembrance to the blood that is on the hands of the BART police.”
The group is angry about the New Year’s Day 2009 shooting death of Oscar Grant III at BART’s Fruitvale station in Oakland and the July 3 shooting of Charles Hill, a stumbling transient who attempted to throw a knife at BART officers at the Civic Center station in San Francisco. In response to Thursday’s cell service shutdown, the group is calling for people to jam BART’s communications through massive amounts of emailing, incessant phone calls and “black fax,” the practice of sending a fully inked page to FAX machines.
The post on the Anonymous website said the protest is designed to be peaceful.
“We request that you bring cameras to record further abuses of power by the police and to legitimize the protest,” the post says. “The media will certainly spin this in an attempt to make our actions appear to be violent or somehow harmful to the citizenry at large.”
A confrontational protest inside BART stations July 11 snarled service for hundreds of thousands of commuters.
Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/2011/08/bart-protests-rescheduled-monday-rush-hour-civic-center#.TkbcRunbXOg.facebook#ixzz1UwVqVYgK
Thank you. Yes, sinister times. All the more reason to not back down. People who go where they are told not go, do what agencies and private companies fraudulently argue they should not have the right to do are on the front lines of an ongoing struggle and deserve much support.
Yes, this. Customers is what they care about. Well, customers’ money. If you were on a train between 4 and 7, and if you have service from one of the FIVE affected telecoms, DEMAND a refund on your bill.
This is the only way to ensure BART gets the pressure from its telecom providers/customers: through their wallets.
Yep, this is what I was referring to at the end of the post. Anonymous is on this. You can see more on this if you look for the hashtags #OpBART and #muBARTek on Twitter.
Thanks for reading.
I agree with much of what you say, but the actions undertaken by BART do not bode well for liberal democracy.
And I deeply disagree with this:
BART did muzzle people, and did take away their signs…nominally to keep an expected protest from spinning out of control, but in reality to keep an expected protest from occurring.
A dangerous precedent.
BART: The Hosni Mubarak of peaceable assembly in America.
Does anyone have any back-story on each of the people who were “interviewed” in the BART propaganda film? I ask because each of them came off as coached and as acting a part. The whole film seemed scripted; every word, every expression.
“Good night officer. Good night.” Cringe inducing.
Yes, that’s a definite possibility.
Right—Again why is there any justification for cops being there to monitor a protest? Because the protest could get out of hand and enter a phase where services were being blocked.
I do not condemn such an action. It would be classic direct action. But I do understand that an agency has a right to defuse efforts to obstruct operations.
Interestingly, Dr. Jordan is flat wrong when she suggests things have changed now that “you can incite people with misinformation with calls to violence and in many ways things can get out of hand.” There was plenty of misinformation in the 1700s and 1800s. How does she think mobs formed? And sometimes these incitements or calls for rebellion were based on misinformation. Sometimes they were based on real facts that upset people.
They prevented no one from protesting. They prevented use of their own assets (the nodes THEY put in place to allow citizens the privilege of accessing cell service) in order to keep the protests from getting out of hand.
Look, if I operate a business and I expect someone to attempt to stage a sit-in on my property, I am fully within my rights to lock the doors. That does not prevent anyone from protesting outside, it just keeps them from damaging my property. I’m not infringing on anyone’s civil liberties. This is exactly the same thing that BART did.
Unless access to cell service on BART lines is a civil right (and it’s not), then denying people that access is not a violation of their civil liberties.
They did nothing to the airwaves. Nothing at all. They prevented their systems from being used to access the airwaves.
I travel a lot and the airports often charge me a fee to access Wi-Fi service on their property. Are my civil rights being abused because they don’t give me that service for free? Oh yeah, and why don’t they give me a PC as well? I mean, if I have a CIVIL RIGHT to the Internet, I’m gonna sue….
It may not be a civil right to have the Internet but it IS a civil right to protest. If BART turned the Internet off because it was costly to them or some other reason like that, it might be reasonable but this was a specific act to prevent citizens from using their rights.
Not acceptable.
No. They did not prevent people from their right to protest. They may have made it less convenient for them to communicate with each other. That is not the same thing.
And by the way, it is not a civil right to “protest”. It IS a right to have the freedom to speak. But not if this was going to be a violent event.
Try to stop acting as though this has all been determined to be legal or beyond an action being taken. You don’t know, and what will follow due to BART’s actions is not yet clear.
Oh and by the way, are you ceding that it’s OK to prevent people from protesting if it’s the cost-effective? That’s pretty fascist, isn’t it?
Thank you Justice Marshall.
Sorry, o/t, but I’m looking for the recent diary about South Africa implementing a single-payer health care system, and I can’t remember the author or title or tags. Help?
And try to stop acting like you DO know this all to be illegal, also.
You don’t know, and what will follow due to BART’s actions is not yet clear.
At AT&T, the Death Star of the Tel-Sat-Co world, the internal joke was that it operated as a government unto itself. Its #1 employer has been and is military black projects (like NeXt). There’s no coincidence that it started selling the public on one-stop shopping and the paperless society and it just wasn’t about the additional money the VPs would make doing it (recall where the wealth goes in corporations?). As another example, the hard copy bus maps and directions in PDX are being removed in the mass transit system. So, if you are wealthy enough to have a smart phone, you can get the information including if the system is operating or running on time. Otherwise, you are out of luck. “Hard copy” (e.g. libraries, books, maps, directories, neighborhood newspapers, receipts)–like people who are teachers, nurses, fire (wo)men, EMS, staffing for City, County and State offices– is *not* dispensable.
You are well aware that that is not what I said. Strawman?
Do you have a link to me ‘trying to act like I DO know’?
I’m sorry. Someone said the following:
“If BART turned the Internet off because it was costly to them or some other reason like that, it might be reasonable”.
And that same person added, referring to BART’s actions:
“this was a specific act to prevent citizens from using their rights”
Who was that? Oh, yeah, it was you….
BART: the fascist way to get there
Ride Fascist Transit: BART
Leave your car home. Let us do the spying.
A couple of ideas. I won’t be there.
I agree…but blocking transmissions goes way beyond locking doors. Your metaphor depends entirely on pre-cell auspices.
And anyway, you’re backtracking. First you argued BART’s case by citing out of control protests, now you’re complaining about sit-ins. Is there any sort of mass dissent that shouldn’t be stamped out before it begins? Like, do you think the editorial board of the Chronicle should refuse to publish dissenting commentary for fear that such might spark a wave of inconvenient protesting?
Seems to me you’re just arguing in favor of
to use Kevin’s words.
I’m saying that if you want to protest, fine. But don’t expect ME to facilitate it. They did NOT stamp out the protest, they simply refused to allow their assets to be used to further those protests.
And the Chronicle is in its right to decide what and what not to publish. Just as you are in your right to decide not to purchase it if you believe they are not providing an outlet for dissent.
No civil rights infringement in either case.
Your right to free speech does not extend to my having to buy the soapbox, poster board, and paint.
You really are a freaking crackpot.. Lennin/Stalin must be your gods! I have never read such tripe as you have been spewing since you deemed that visiting us… And yes I have read ALL of your Fascist comments(what else do I call them?) Go find your rock and crawl back under it. Your version of society is not what I served my Country to facilitate on our citizens… Corporate/Fascist Control of the people… You must be very happy with “Citizens United”!!!
Now be a good TROLL and TODDLE along to where you belong…
Oh and one question just how much is BART paying you?? Inquiring minds really would like to know!!
Let me demolish some foolish commenting here. I have over 10 years in Telco as an analyst.
First, BART owns no network except their own internal cell/radio system, just like Fire & Police around the country do.
Second, what they do own is what’s called a DACS: Distributed Antenna Cable System. The DACS is what the 5 Commercial Carriers signals rode underground to cover the platforms and actually through the tunnel going under the Bay, so that people have signal.
Third, what BART shut down was the power to the Carriers. BART shut down networks that did not belong to them. Full stop. One can deduce this because if BART had shut down the DACS, they wouldn’t have been able to communicate via radio internally.
BART broke a fundamental property rule by interfering with contracts between other people.
A good article to ponder. If BART feels it needs to shut down such access, then one might ask is the shutdown total, or selective, or merely a neutral and blind withdrawal of all intervention by BART for signal support underground? Can mother earth be allowed to simply do her thing, or not? Maybe not, considering the venue and the locals.
Certainly a BART rider can run up the stairs from the subway to tap into whatever is available to the public at large on the sidewalk. THat would be nearly everything, no? Or they can call a minute or two before the hellish descent underground or wait a few minutes until at a location where such access is naturally available. Or BART might be reasonably expected to subsidize and provide such access on its own without exception (I suspect this is the case). Which is it?
If BART is selectively blocking certain communications from/to certain sources while allowing others, they are asking for trouble and deserve such. BART might be on more solid ground with a neutral, hands off approach by simply withdrawing all proactive signal support, but without blocking anything. Let mother earth do her own thing. BART could suggest that its customers walk if they can’t wait a few minutes for a signal friendly location, or simply pre-plan their calls around a few minutes’ ride.
So there are various solutions to ponder while avoiding masturbatory urges. It is no surprise that such a crisis would crop up in stressed-out San Francisco, one of the most unpleasant cities I have ever visited. Get a life out there.
There is absolutely evidence that the protesters had any intention to commit violence. You know you are just repeating law enforcement talking points i.e. bullshit.
No but BART is a government agency. Hence what it owns is in the purview of the government agency, presumably. So, discussing this in the context of what a business would and would not do is not entirely appropriate.
I am very much inclined to agree with that, pending review of the actual contracts and terms of service agreements germane to the situation. That only goes so far as contractual issues though. Then the question is whether BART’s actions were illegal and/or unconstitutional. That is, contrary to the claims of many here, very far from certain or clear. It was absolutely stupid and uncalled for, and I think BART is going to reap a whirlwind of negativity; however, if I had to bet, my bet would be that a court would find it just minimally acceptable. Pretty close call though, and governmental agencies should owe a higher standard in protection of free speech and freedom of association. Lot of moving parts here though; we shall see.
I would say one thing, however, this statement:
Is almost surely wrong. Such a rule, at least as to the “assemblies and demonstrations” would almost certainly be considered “content neutral” and, if limited to the platform areas for public safety, would surely pass muster. The over broad and vague “other expressive activities”, not so much; that sub-provision would likely fail.
Please nahant don’t try to silence him. I like having happytosharebutdamn here. The comments threads are interesting. And I am amused by the effort happytosharebutdamn puts into trying to “debunk” or “deconstruct” what people are trying to say.
Thanks for making this clear.
Way to go BART. Now the whole world knows you suck. Here is an idea. Stop killing homeless people. You can thank me later.
I agree, Kevin. Is FDL going to turn into KOS, where dissenting views, politely stated, are shouted down and names (Troll) flung at anyone who voices a dissenting opinion? I hope not.
The vitriol here gets to me sometimes, and has driven away some longtime pups. When the discussion is vigorous and civil it enlightens and educates us all.
You have more experience in legalese than I do so, as you are doing, add your expertise and correct me but…
The protest planned was going to be against BART. The rule is now being proposed to prevent all activities or demonstrations against BART. In a challenge to the implementation of this rule, this “content-neutral” measure could be found to be intrusive. Now, in the post-9/11 world, they could make a “safety” justification that any judge would likely side with. I agree. But, I don’t think it’s clear cut that this rule being proposed doesn’t violate rights. Though, you aren’t talking about rights or liberties. You are presuming what a court would or would not do, which is a different debate.
Have to disagree. I love San Francisco!
I don’t necessarily agree with him but I am not going to tell anyone to go away or shut up. If people do not like what’s being said by a user, then let that user’s words lay out in the open without any responses. The user can deal with the fact that nobody agrees or cares about what was said and so they are not being engaged in the discussion.
By the way, SFGate reports based on FCC history this action was likely not legal.
Perhaps, but I think that is too subtle for some. I have tried, of late, to simply ignore some commenters entirely. Obviously my personal opinion is of little interest to them or perhaps to most people. I was just trying to make a larger point that calling names and attacking those with whom we disagree shuts down the dissent that makes us all more knowledgeable. I don’t always know enough to rebut a comment, even though my gut may tell me it’s wrong, so reading others’ rebuttals educates me. Seeing a commenter labeled a “troll” or called other names doesn’t educate anyone, it’s just unpleasant.
*gets off soapbox*
I would like to add here that the nine elected BART Directors each represents a geographic area served by the BART stations listed in their brief. These Board members can be reached:
BART Board of Directors
P.O. Box 12688
Oakland, CA 94604-2688
(510) 464-6095
BoardofDirectors@bart.gov
District #7 (Map)
Lynette Sweet, BART Director
Stations Included: Ashby, El Cerrito Del Norte, El Cerrito Plaza, MacArthur, Richmond, West Oakland, 12th Street/Oakland City Center (partial), 19th Street (partial), Embarcadero (partial), Montgomery (partial)
Counties Included: Alameda/Contra Costa/San Francisco
District #8 (Map)
James Fang, BART Director
Stations Included: Balboa Park, Embarcadero (partial), Montgomery (partial), Powell Street (partial)
Counties Included: San Francisco
District #9 (Map)
Tom Radulovich, BART Director
Stations Included: 16th Street Mission, 24th Street Mission, Glen Park, Civic Center, Powell Street (partial)
Counties Included: San Francisco
So they shut down power to assets the OWN. thanks for clarifying that they impaired their own assets and nothing else. If anyone has a gripe with them, it would be the telcos. Are they shouting?
Um, nope.
The affected stations were Embarcadero, Montgomery, Powell and Civic Center. Passengers whose cell or wireless service was affected should probably complain to the Board members listed above, as well as requesting a refund from their service provider for the downtime. Money talks.
If the service providers are swamped with requests for account credits for downtime, this will have greater effect on BART than citizen complaints. The service providers are Corporations, which are People too, remember.
Oh, Kelly Canfield, Inc. is reminding us quite clearly, TYVM.
LOL.
I wonder if my sister in Castro Valley and my gay friends in the city are following this flap?
Edit to add: They’re pretty liberal, but not as intensely focused on politics as I am.
Mayoral candidate Phil Ting weighs in at his blog:
http://www.resetsanfrancisco.org/news/aug-13-11/sf-bart-cellphone-shutdown
Censorship Is Not a Public Safety Strategy
BART Shuts Off Cell Phone Service to Prevent Protest
By: Phil Ting
The news from BART keeps getting worse and worse. We learned this morning that not only did BART turn off cell signals in its Civic Center, Powell Street and 16th Street Stations on Thursday evening to try and prevent a protest – the decision was made at the very highest staff level of the agency.The news from BART keeps getting worse and worse. We learned this morning that not only did BART turn off cell signals in its Civic Center, Powell Street and 16th Street Stations on Thursday evening to try and prevent a protest – the decision was made at the very highest staff level of the agency.
Censorship is not, and should never be, a public safety strategy. We take BART leadership at their word about motives; they say they were worried about a crush of passengers and protesters on a dangerously crowded platform.
But the proper response to such a concern was to send BART police, and SFPD if necessary, to safeguard passengers and protesters. The decision to cut off cell service in order to prevent the protests violates fundamental principles of our democracy.
Violating Fundamental Principles of Democracy
At Reset San Francisco, our view is that the more voices heard, the more vigorous our democracy. Peaceful protest is a way people who are not being heard can be heard – and that feedback, as uncomfortable as it can make the politicians, is absolutely necessary to improve government.
Of course we must promote peaceful protest, not dangerous actions like rushing a crowded train platform. But we don’t enforce laws by violating our most fundamental principles of free speech. Censorship is not, and must not become, a public safety tool.
Across the world, pro-democracy protestors are using social media to spark peaceful protests. And across the world, governments that fear their own citizens are trying to block the Twitter feeds, Facebook pages and SMS texts that give everyday people a new power to be heard.
It is sad that in our own city, and from one of our own government agencies, censorship was used to block protest.
Make Your Voice Heard – Right Now
We need to make sure this never happens again. Please be heard on this important issue. Below are the names of all the BART Board of Directors and an email address to contact them. Indicate whether you are contacting the full Board or an individual Board Director. I know many of them are as appalled by this as we are. But please email them now – and give them the support and strength they need to stop the policy of censorship immediately.
BART Board of Directors
Gail Murray – District 1
boardofdirectors@bart.gov
Joel Keller – District 2
boardofdirectors@bart.gov
Bob Franklin – District 3
bobfranklinbart@aol.com
Robert Raburn – District 4
robertraburn@covad.net
John McPartland – District 5
boardofdirectors@bart.gov
Thomas Blalock – District 6
boardofdirectors@bart.gov
Lynette Sweet – District 7
boardofdirectors@bart.gov
James Fang – District 8
boardofdirectors@bart.gov
Tom Radulovich – District 9
boardofdirectors@bart.gov
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You don’t know for a fact exactly what different Telco legal departments are doing. Nobody does at this moment.
I think it’s becoming more and more clear every hour that BART was afraid their murderous thug cops couldn’t resist killing more passengers and protesters on the BART platforms. Sending in the BART police to keep the public peace is like pouring gas on a fire, and BART management knows it. They have an out-of-control rogue force that can only be kept in check by disabling the demonstrators’ peaceable assembly.
I read it to ban all assemblies and demonstrations in the paid passenger areas. It does not appear to be limited to protests against BART, it appears to be against any such activity. Irrespective of what precipitated imposition of the rule, I think it would easily survive Constitutional scrutiny (except for the bullshit “other expressive activity” part; that is not gonna cut it). Is it intrusive, any check is intrusive to some extent, the question is whether it is neutral and reasonable. Under the general analysis standards of ISKCON v. Lee, it appears almost certain such a limited and neutral prohibition by BART would be held to be acceptable.
You know, there’s going to be a minority of those claims and I’ll tell you why.
I’ll estimate that about 70% of customers were on unlimited plans as between the 5 carriers that’s somewhat the case for these carriers nationally. No refunds for less-than-a-day outages on unlimited plans generally.
Otay I see your point but I still say he/she/it is a Troll…
Just go read all the comments he/she/it has made since registering.. If it looks like a Troll, smells like a Troll and speaks like one well…
You’ve just drawn a line that says that private property can be used to infringe civil rights.
Does a government building have to allow people to riot inside?
Note that Zennie is not a lawyer, has no particular expertise in diddly shit, is NOT the SF Chronicle or SFGate and is basically a gadabout (not the first time I have seen his “work”). His analysis is horrid here, to the point of being useless. Now it may be the FCC would have an issue, may not; but it is not going to be decided on Zennie’s bunk.
But only in the context that they may have interfered with 911 access. NOT anything related to any infringement on civil liberties. Not a word about that, actually.
my whole point has been that they did nothing to infringe on a civil liberty and, in fact, cellphone access or Internet access are NOT civil rights.
Even if people can show actual damages, like inability to reach child care during my commute, so my child care charges went into overtime? Or lost a client conference call? I’d still call if I were there and my service was affected: the customer service people may be instructed to give a ‘goodwill’ credit because of the publicity.
Those can add up fast.
Nahant, I usually agree with you, but…
Is your definition of a “troll” someone who disagrees with the groupthink that sometimes goes on here and dares to say so? I’m not sure I find happytoshare’s arguments persuasive, but they are reasoned and civil and to the point. What’s wrong with that? Or is a troll someone who has a conservative or libertarian point of view and is expressing it here? Or is a troll just someone who is taking a contrary view of the subject at hand and you happen to disagree (and assume everyone should)?
If you think someone is a troll, just ignore him/her (the “it” is gratuitous, too). Don’t feed the troll. But please spare us the name calling.
That was my reaction too, FWIW. Never heard of him or his blog.
The customers most likely to get a service credit will be T-Mobile and MetroPCS pre-paid customers.
I used to run pro-active service credit programs for network outages of 6 hours or more; would send a text to the customers phone that we knew about the outage, were sorry about it and credited their account on a prorated basis.
The problem the Telcos are going to have is that with power to the engineering cabinets off, the Telco doesn’t have access to CDRs (Customer Data Records) that would normally be humming along and processing the info of what customers were in signal range.
BART screwed up a lot of relationships and normal business processes with their act.
Just go read all the comments it has made since registering..
Why would I bother to read all his/her comments? I’m done arguing with you. We’ll just have to disagree on this one. I dislike name calling and flinging “troll” at anyone we disagree with. My scroll wheel works just fine.
I think you are correct, and wonder how prevalent such broad prohibitions are elsewhere. No doubt there are some, but. . .?
One might think this is a product of an innately belligerent environment, a response to such. I don’t know how many other locales may have similar broad constraints in print, or deem such necessary. I suspect it is more common than any of us would hope.
The one you cite for SF could be interpreted as disallowing even an otherwise innocuous, silent, but rude T-shirt with a clenched fist, or such, with perhaps a rude printed word or two. That interpretation would never pass muster in SF if challenged. And yet. . . the text you cite is there, and it seems very broad, no? In turn that raises the question of where this came from. Someone got this into the “books” for some purpose, and in response to what?
You used to live in SF, Teddy… have you never been on a BART platform at rush hour?
This has nothing to do with “murderous thug cops… killing more passengers and protesters.” It has to do with intentionally creating a commotion in a tightly packed space in the presence of large machines that can crush people.
Don’t let your ideology swamp your common sense.
Okay, he’s a hack. This probably more accurately presents the legal issues.
You’re smart. You know the law. The law can be morally wrong and deserve non-cooperation and opposition. So, if the law allows this sort of action by private companies or government agencies, it may not be something the people of this country should accept.
I realize that legally there have been decisions that allow for intrusions upon people’s civil liberties or rights for whatever reason. I have no interest in just merely knowing the law and being able to explain to people how things work. If it seems immoral or inhumane, if it seems like the law is improper and violates rights, I will promote actions that might lead to it being changed. That seems like what we as a people have to do and not severe our selves off from our conscience when something seems abhorrent but has the possibility of legal justification
Kevin, this will be my last post to your blog if you can clearly tell me what civil liberty was denied by the act of BART not allowing these people to access the Internet or their cell provider. Keep it focused on civil liberties. That seems the be the crux of your argument, no?
Well, heh, like I said, I encountered that guy on something (can’t remember what) a year or two ago, so I had a bit of a jump with him.
But as to the disallowance of organized protest activity in paid passenger areas such as platforms, cars etc, it is hard to see how that is not neutral, reasonable and presumptively appropriate for safety reasons, as Swopa alluded to @79. The cutting of com service is a much better issue, at least to my eyes, to be outraged about, as seems to be the focus of the CSM article you linked. I will whole heartedly agree, and would still do so even if it is eventually held minimally permissible under the law, that the cutting of the service was arbitrary and outrageous.
Yeah, hi there, that would be freedom of speech and freedom of association. Now you can argue that it was reasonable to so deny if you are so inclined (I am not), but to not recognize that those interests are in play is simply to deny obvious reality and to shed any, even minimal, credibility you can bring to the discussion.
Nope. There is no civll liberty to associate or speak over the Internet or the cell airwaves. If there was, the government would have to provide cell and net service to all.
They did not deny people the right to protest. Period.
Good night.
Just to flip the context of that thought around… I don’t know the legal ins and outs of shutting down the cell service, but morally I’m completely on BART’s side.
These were assholes whose stated intent was to disrupt train service at rush hour — consciously creating a confrontational situation with riders — and I don’t believe BART is morally obligated to facilitate their disruption.
As far as I’m concerned, the protesters have more in common with the right-wing thugs who berate women near family-planning clinics that anyone or anything I would consider to be progressive.
Dude, speech is speech and association is association; focusing on a particular mechanism is a false and red herring. Oh, and by the way, you are mixing the protest part of the issue with the communication part of the issue.
Where is their statement that they intended to disrupt BART service at rush-hour? I’ve read BART Propaganda fake TV saying that that is what they had intended. But I haven’t read a direct statement from the organizers of the demonstration saying that that was what they had intended to do. Could you point out a link wherein that is stated by them?
“Dude” they did nothing to prevent people from associating or speaking their minds. There were no cops with batons and water cannons, no barriers or lines of police keeping the masses at bay. They simply refused to let BART assets be used by the protesters to coordinate their little tete a tete.
They protesters still had use of their cellphones outside the BART stations, they still could congregate wherever they wanted.
Saying that BART’s refusal to allow their communications lines to be used by the protesters is like saying that the newspaper needs to provide an open forum for every person with a gripe to air. And that the guy with a billboard abive his store must allows protesters to use it for their latest ad blitz.
Just because these protesters could not stage some sort of viral flash mob action doesn’t mean their civil liberties were violated.
Get back to me after you have spent a few years studying Constitutional law; you appear woefully unprepared for a rational discussion of law. You also might want to do at least a smidgen of study on communications law, but that is strictly secondary. Good luck on your studies!
I haven’t studied a lick of either constitutional or communications law, but I did sit through enough of an introductory philosophy course to know that the “argument from authority” (e.g., I studied constitutional law and you didn’t, so shut up) is considered a logical fallacy.
So you might want to lower yourself from the Olympian heights of your vast legal knowledge long enough to explain to us mere mortals why happytoshare’s reasoning is incorrect.
‘Cause otherwise, I call bullshit.
I do not know the in-outs of this issue but from above blog looks like an issue is being made out of non-issue being made by actions with the feeling of us and they instead of talking and resolving it in a nice peaceful manner since we have a well defined court process to resolve differences and get issue arbitration.
First the side which wanted to protest should have approached the BART about protest plans and their demands.
Since BART obviously came to know about the protest instead of orchestrating the whole cell phone drama just approach the other side and let me them know what their action will be to their demands pending the court decision if there was a pending court case on the issue. In addition they could have let them know what was the proper place for them to protest at the BART station if they still wanted to instead of pulling off all this drama in the process creating a constitutional issue out of nothing.
Just for starters, what do you think the “No BART” part of “No Justice, No BART” means?
Frankly, we used to use walkie-talkies, way before cell phones, and I suggest protest organizers consider same again, at least as a back-up. In addition, one could have runners or organize teams of messengers. Over-reliance on one form of communication is a vulnerability that organizers will have to address. There may be work-arounds re such blackouts, and in fact, I remember reading that the US is planning to promote such local use in foreign countries where governments already utilize such Internet blackouts. Clandestine radio stations were set up in Europe by the OSS and British SAS in conjunction with partisan groups. I presume the Russians did the same.
Great reporting, Kevin!
You didn’t answer the question. Where did you read the organizers themselves saying that they intended to disrupt the rush hour service?
I am totally with Swopa here. The protesters last time came to my neighborhood (the Castro) with covered faces and began terrorizing and destroying the Muni subway station. Muni and BART are not the same thing at all. They disabled fare machines by hitting them with bats. The local newspaper even printed photos of them doing it.
Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but this same group organized a demonstration last month where service WAS disrupted at rush hour by protesters who jammed themselves in train doorways to keep them from closing (one actually tried to climb on top of the train).
So we’re not talking about a hypothetical situation here.
Actually, yes we are talking about a hypothetical situation here. Using a past reference does not provide ‘proof’ of an intended action in the future. I have not seen the organization state that they had specifically intended to physically and concretely disrupt service in this instance. They said that they intended to hold signs and bring attention to the BART police’ murders and that BART police needed to be disbanded by BART.
The following is the summary of their mission:
If their only purpose is to provide information, then why insist on protesting on the crowded train platform?
The Bay Area having lagged behind somewhat in developing teleportation capabilities, everyone on a BART platform (or train) has to get there by passing through the paid-entry gates. The protesters could easily — and non-disruptively — make their point by setting up a table with banners, fliers, photographs, etc. outside those gates.
The reason they don’t do that is because their GOAL is to be disruptive.
Swopa:
I sent an email to No Justice No Bart asking them why they don’t have a representative of their organization posting replies to this thread. Maybe they do, but if so, I haven’t caught it. It seems that it would be helpful if someone who is deeply involved with the organization would post on their behalf when they are the subject of the controversy.
You’ll have no problem finding past demonstrations that caused disruptions, or even words from their website where they indicate that disruptions are a useful tool, but all that I’ve been able to find and read about their intentions regarding this recent proposed demonstration had nothing in it about physical, concrete disruption; only about bringing attention to the BART police and the need and reasons to have them disbanded.
Come on. You really don’t believe that setting up a little kid like koolaid table would accomplish shit do you? They “insist” on showing up at peak hours because that is how to bring attention to the murderous BART police problem. They should be able to do that without people being inconvenienced, but they have to be kind of ‘in your face’ or they might just as well hang it up and just allow the BART police abuse to continue unabated.
Well, at least you’ve come off your disingenuous stance that the protesters just innocently wanted to hold up signs on the platform.
But here’s the problem with them claiming the right be “in your face”: That means everybody has the same right. Anti-abortion freaks get to wander around the platform with their fetuses in jars and screaming, “It’s not a choice, it’s a child!!” Anti-gay zealots can roam around looking for same-sex couples, surrounding them and berating them that they’re going to hell.
This is why BART, quite sensibly, has a policy of not allowing people to pull that shit on a train platform.
As far as I’m concerned, my freedom of association includes the freedom not to associate with self-righteous assholes who are so convinced their cause is holy and all-important that they need to get “in my face” about it.
The simple fact is, if you can’t make your argument without getting “in someone’s face” about it, maybe your argument isn’t a very convincing one.
Nothing disingenuous about what I’ve been posting.
Look, I disagree with your entire take on this and the comparisons that you’ve made. Was Rosa Parks getting in the white folks’ face when she decided to not go to the back of the bus when told to do so?
Your idea of what qualifies as presentable and acceptable protest is worse than a bad joke. Setting out koolaid tables with pictures and pamphlets. How cute.
Just one more note and then I don’t see the point continuing on with you, Swopa.
I don’t know who the person was who climbed onto the BART train. And I don’t know if that person was approved of or in any way affiliated with the the protest organization. I don’t approve of or see that kind of action as useful, and I also don’t affiliate it with or compare it to holding up signs and ‘getting in your face’. I also don’t relate ‘getting in your face’ by holding up signs and being present to your ugly example of the history of the horrid people who scream at and accost women going into clinics. That you would use that as an example to make your point is what I believe qualifies as ‘disingenuous’.
Agreed, Swopa.
Great points, Happy
To the poster – as a Bay Area resident (and since I’m reading his blog, I obviously sympathizes with those who have been abused by police), your post seems to heavily minimize the fact that there are commuters (who are both non-white and white) who do need to use BART to commute and count on this agency for service. There were “protestors” at the last planned protest that jumped on top of the BART cars making it unsafe for both protestors and commutors and, as you know, when service is interrupted, it causes a horrible traffic back up and doesn’t really educate people about your cause or make them sympathetic to hear your case.
Well, I believe you know a little more about Con law than you let on. Secondly, if you had read my previous comments in the thread, then you would know I had already done exactly what you belligerently demanded. So, bullshit right back at ya bro.