When considering the effects of unemployment, and the desultory, really uncaring response of the current Democratic administration, as well as Republicans in Congress, to the human devastation of joblessness, it is important to consider the terrible emotional and psychological effects of such unemployment. Such effects are well-documented, but rarely mentioned in articles or blog postings.
A well-regarded 2010 study by the John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey, “The Anguish of Unemployment,” quantified the tremendous emotional suffering engendered by unemployment. “‘The lack of income and loss of health benefits hurts greatly, but losing the ability to provide for my wife and myself is killing me emotionally,’ wrote one respondent to the survey.” (See PDF for Powerpoint presentation of results.)
Just last April, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released a study that showed that suicide rates rise and fall in tandem with the business cycle. The study covered the years 1928-2007. According to the CDC press release:
The overall suicide rate rises and falls in connection with the economy, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study released online today by the American Journal of Public Health. The study, “Impact of Business Cycles on the U.S. Suicide Rates, 1928–2007″ is the first to examine the relationships between age-specific suicide rates and business cycles. The study found the strongest association between business cycles and suicide among people in prime working ages, 25-64 years old.
“Knowing suicides increased during economic recessions and fell during expansions underscores the need for additional suicide prevention measures when the economy weakens,” said James Mercy, Ph.D., acting director of CDC’s Injury Center’s Division of Violence Prevention. “It is an important finding for policy makers and those working to prevent suicide.”
As a practicing psychologist, seeing clients for almost 20 years, I can say that the current economic depression has had a terrible effect on the people I see. I have also heard about more suicides in a short period of time than I have in years — actually, ever. While this could be a statistical fluke, and I myself would never draw stark conclusions from the sample of one clinician, the spike in reported suicides is certainly something that fits the known epidemiological risks that accompany high unemployment.
Because of confidentiality issues, I can’t talk about my own clients, but let’s consider some other academic studies over the years about the effects of economic stressors, such as unemployment.
“After unemployment, symptoms of somatization, depression, and anxiety were significantly greater in the unemployed than employed.” — Effects of unemployment on mental and physical health. American Journal of Public Health, May 1985.
“Controlling for a number of individual characteristics, unemployed individuals are found to suffer significantly higher odds of experiencing a marked rise in anxiety, depression and loss of confidence and a reduction in self-esteem and the level of general happiness even compared with individuals in low-paid employment. This finding highlights the involuntary nature of unemployment.” — “The effects of low-pay and unemployment on psychological well-being: A logistic regression approach.” Journal of Health Economics, January 1998.
“Unemployment was associated with an increased risk of suicide and death from undetermined causes. Low education, personality characteristics, use of sleeping pills or tranquilizers, and serious or long-lasting illness tended to strengthen the association between unemployment and early mortality.” — “Unemployment and Early Cause-Specific Mortality: A Study Based on the Swedish Twin Registry.” American Journal of Public Health, January 2004.
“Unemployed individuals had lower psychological and physical well-being than did their employed counterparts.” — “Psychological and Physical Well-Being During Unemployment: A Meta-Analytic Study.” Journal of Applied Psychology, Jan. 2005.
“SPRC conducted a literature review of relevant research published in the past two decades. The review shows that a strong relationship exists between unemployment, the economy, and suicide. A common “chain of adversity” can begin with job loss and move toward depression through financial strain and loss of personal control. In fact, this chain leads to myriad financial, social, health and mental health outcomes—all of them negative. The most common (but by no means the only) mental health outcome is depression, which significantly increases suicide risk. The associated financial outcomes (such as mortgage foreclosures and loss of retirement security) have not been researched with respect to suicide. However, the potential link is that for vulnerable individuals, losses (whether real or anticipated) that result in humiliation, shame, or despair can trigger suicide attempts.” — “Relationship between the Economy, Unemployment and Suicide.” Suicide Prevention Resource Center (SPRC), November 2008.
“There was a strong independent association between suicide and individuals who were unemployed (odds ratio 2.6; 95% confidence interval 2.0 to 3.4) and permanently sick (2.5; 1.6 to 4.0)…. The association between suicide and unemployment is more important than the association with other socioeconomic measures.” — “Suicide, deprivation, and unemployment: record linkage study.” British Medical Journal, Nov. 1998.
“Socioeconomic events are known to produce important fluctuations in suicide mortality. Unemployment, in particular, seems related to suicide risk along direct and indirect pathways. Blakely and co- workers’ paper in this issue adds to evidence indicating a causal association between unemployment and suicide. Their results indicate that this association is not attributable to confounding factors linked to the socioeconomic status and that it is only partly related to health selection or mental disorders.” — “Unemployment and Suicide.” Journal of Epidemiological Community Health, 2003.
Anemic Jobs Help from Washington Assures More Suffering
According to news reports, President Barack Obama has announced that he will be proposing in September a “jobs package” meant to stimulate job growth. The program, which reportedly will include yet more tax cuts, along with some infrastructure spending, appears yet another tepid approach to a problem that is seriously affecting millions of people. In fact, the government has sat and twiddled its thumbs while millions have languished in despair.
Unemployment is deadly. The effects of the capitalist boom-and-bust system seriously damage millions of lives. But with an almost daily bombast of propaganda about terrorism, the populace lives in fear, while wondering how they will make their bills, ground down between anxiety over ghostly terrorists and eviction, or how to put gas in their car, or afford a bus pass. Hopelessness stalks the land, not Al Qaeda. And yet the politicians in D.C. care little or nothing about the suffering their policies cause. Indeed, their pockets are lined with campaign donations from corporations that routinely layoff hundreds of thousands, and ship many thousands more jobs overseas.
Callous disregard for human lives is what links the terrible policies of war and torture with the policies of neglect and indifference towards the jobless. Such callousness is the by-product of a get-rich-quick ethos that worships profit over all else, over worship of a capitalist system that has brought about terrible world wars, massive depressions, colonial atrocities, and even genocide. U.S. society awaits its turn through the meat-grinder of history.
Meanwhile, the politicians only care about getting re-elected. Indeed, the blogosphere is too infected with following the minutiae of the fake political campaigns, while daily, minute by minute, people’s lives are destroyed. Somewhere today, perhaps while you were reading this, someone has taken their life because they felt useless, with no hope of gainful employment, their self-esteem ground down, the sense of meaning and connection severed by redundancy and societal disconnection.
We need dramatic, radical change in this country, and we need it now. For many thousands, however, it will come too late. How many more individual lives, how many more families lives will be shattered by mental illness and suicide due to joblessness? The right to a job is the most fundamental of human rights.



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The values in this country are truly upside down. — For another excellent write-up on this topic, see Arthur Delaney at the Huffington Post, “Joblessness And Hopelessness: The Link Between Unemployment And Suicide.”
Isn’t this a good thing? Doesn’t suicide reduce the unemployment rate? /s
Months ago I said here that the gov’t was driving people crazy. Someone disagreed and said it was ridiculous. It’s not. Only the gov’t can do something about this situation because we, the people, are helpless.
“Meanwhile, the politicians only care about getting re-elected.” : Take THEIR jobs back until they understand and effectively ACT, with empathy.
Much like the effect of socioeconomic status on education, we do NOT talk of suicide rates. EVER!!!
In today’s Amerika, that’s someone else’s problem.
The corporate media won’t cover it for the same reason that they don’t cover non-TP protests and continue their prattle about deficit and debt.
Because most are still not affected. This is a class issue. First the poor. Decimated and slowly dying off.
But as long as the corporate media does not cover it, the middle class (or upper-middle), will not hear about it, and not be affected by it.
It’s a way to segregate the population along class lines.
First the poor. No one cares about the poor. Are they even human?
Then the working poor. Useful. Who else is going to do the shite no one else will?
Then the lower middle. Always on the edge of being poor. Always afraid. Probably poor at some point. But they will do anything NEVER to be poor again.
Middle middle. Going down. Slowly but surely. Once the money was stolen from the poor, they went to the next group that was weak and defenseless, ie. the middle class. Going down. Slowly and painfully.
I could go on.
But the whole point is divide and conquer. Don’t let them feel anything for others. One way is to just not share that info. Suicides? What suicides?
I noted over and over how being unemployed was the hardest I’ve worked in my whole life. You can leave your job behind on your time off, you never get any time off from being unemployed.
There’s been no statistical evidence provided that links suicide to economic status.
“Meanwhile, the politicians only care about getting re-elected.” : Take THEIR jobs back until they understand and effectively ACT, with empathy.”
This!
Suicide is a destroyer of families. It brings all the worst; the anger, the regret and the shame. Terrible thing to go through.
…we do NOT talk of suicide rates. EVER!!!
Especially the fact we’re losing more Soldiers to Suicide, than in actual Combat, these days…! *gah*
Do you mean besides the ones linked to above? The Center for Disease Control study for example links exactly those.
Didn’t you read that part? But that’s okay. Reading comprehension has never been a requirement for right wing trolling.
“you never get any time off from being unemployed.” !st thing you learn when your unemployed is NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOU EXCEPT THE PEOPLE THAT LOVE YOU. We live in a heartless numbed down dumb down society and its only going to get worse.
Even if the CDC hadn’t said this, common sense would tell you that it’s true. When self-esteem goes it’s very difficult to cope.
I mean period. For example, white men have a significantly higher rate of suicide than black men or black women. In fact, black women, who are usually in much lower economic circumstances than white men have a very low rate of suicide. I realize that you are not interested in statistical evidence. Black women are statistically the most likely to be unemployed. If there were a link, one (at least one who is persuadable by evidence) would expect much higher suicide rates among black women.
I’m there. I have been long term unemployed. I have just kinda of given up really trying. Part of the emotional strain for me is that I feel powerless. There are so many things happening now that are effecting my situation that are just so beyond my control. I mean shit like the housing bubble, wall street fraud and just recently the debt ceiling, etc. And I dont think anything is gonna get better anytime soon. And now they want to screw me even more when I get old. At least I know outside factors are largely to blame and i’m not internilizing. I can see how other people easily could. Something that might cheer people up is sending some Goldman Sachs banksters to jail.
Another thing is that the entire getting a job thing has turned into a sometimes demeaning and often overly (and needlessly) complicated process. People say “kill the lawyers!” I say kill human resources!” I have also heard things that dumfounded me trying to a low lend $9 hour job. I didnt have enough retail experience. Yes well I was managing million dollar accounts. I just didnt have the time to gain valuable retail expierence. I can how ever scan things and make change. A lot of jobs are just farmed thru temp agencies. You get sent in and they see if they like you. but often you still have to send in a resume and interview (like isnt that the agency’s job?). Many times the companies treat the temps like cattle Anyway, my point to that is that I was told to take my graduation year off my resume because it made me sound “old”. Ive also had to lie. Like what my responsiblities were and what I made. Just the opposite of padding. I had to downgrade everything. It all starts wearing on you.
If you are lucky enough to get one of these $10 hour jobs it still doesnt really help you. Its not enough to actually support a normal adult in this day and age. I cant imagine if you had more people to support as well. So you work at some crappy job for 8 hours a day (well 9, they expect you to work thru lunch …unpaid) and still cant make ends meet. let alone get ahead. That really adds to the misery index.
LOL. and then if you go back and try to get a pro job and have to deal with Human Resources again they are really fixated about why you are working at Arby’s. I good response these days would be “because you wont hire me if I dont have a job”.
Yep and I would have never made it but for them and some very generous firebaggers.
I was laid off at the end of 2008 and it was out of the blue. It took 9 months before I was able to find work (Contractor) and I have found a full time role. When I got laid off I had a number of health issues and it was very tough on me. Even now I never feel like things will be the same and I don’t trust the system. People like Obama, Dems and GOP have never been down this road and they don’t have to worry…I am very attuned to those who are out of work and I know many who are looking…I am 58 and worry that I will not make it… Obama hate of SS Medicare and Mediaid is another worry
Are you going to back any of the gibberish up or are you relying on your bluster while giving your racist rant to not be called on it? I call bullshit and that’s an easy call.
keep you head up…remember HR is only reflecting company policy not writing it…good luck
I’m so there. My health was badly affected and though I came off probation at work today, I still live in fear that my shiny new full time gig is going to vanish suddenly.
http://www.suicide.org/suicide-statistics.html
Good news! Probation done – makes it sound like you got out of jail.
Well, they call it probation but it lasted 90 days and now I have 32 hours of leave time available until my one year anniversary when I get more. I got my health and dental coverage on the first.
All I can say to my fellow Murkins is hang in there; the facades are falling and the truth is out there:
-Elizabeth Warren got street cred when she truthfully reported how medical bills were a predominant factor in middle class declarations of bankruptcy.
-The rubber also met the road when the real estate fraudsters finally had to deal with the fact that real estate values could not rise indefinitely, (and not even consistently with an eventual terminus) without the requisite tandem traction of parallel gains in middle class wages (when they simultaneously knew that exactly the opposite was happening – inverse wage proportions – worst in several decades). The illusion of commoditizing people’s homes was propped up with the help of the financial fraudsters, (clever packagers/marketers that they are). Nonetheless, the piper has their number and is calling – all over the globe apparently.
-The credit fraudsters got their wish – fueled by the keeping up with the Joneses nonsense – to get as much of their market share as possible.
Empires finding the limit of their reach is a sad thing indeed, it’s happened before and apparently it’s going to happen again. But the biggest illusion of this whole morass, and we see it everyday on the Web, (dog love it, but it’s a double-edged sword) is that every discrete, isolated spreadsheet cell, hypercustomized message is adding to this myth that people need to take personally the demise of this systemic fustercluck of a paradigm.
It probably helps little. But raging against the dying of the light, imho, means not giving them what they want most: Your hearbeat, your life, your soul. F em. They’re not worth it.
Remember: THEIR worth was overrated to begin with.
And if this post gets even one person to step back from the edge, it’s worth it.
It’s not about OUR demise. It’s about THEIRS.
Let that be your Captain America teflon shield in the interim.
When we said “Yes We Can,” little did we know it would mean,
“Ride out the storm together.”
*Shares popcorn*
Here is where the big turn to heartlessness took place…Origins within Clinton Presidency
The term was first used by President of the United States Bill Clinton’s chief political advisor Dick Morris as a way to describe his strategy for getting Clinton reelected in the 1996 presidential election. It is often referred to as “Clintonian triangulation”. Morris advocated a set of policies that were different from the traditional policies of the Democratic Party. These policies included deregulation and balanced budgets. One of the most widely cited capstones of Clinton’s triangulation strategy was when, in his 1996 State of the Union Address, Clinton declared that the “era of big government is over.”[1]
Clinton welfare to work only works when their are jobs otherwise people are forced into starvation, suicide or criminal pursuits. Crime persuits don’t work because the corporatists have it sown up.
Hooray!
Okay, not that. I was questioning your assumption that black women are the least likely to be employed. Sorry I wasn’t specific but I’m not used to talking with people who throw racial stereotypes around.
Jeff. I began treating psychiatric patients in the late seventies when the first big wave of downsizing and outsourcing to the right to work south was beginning. I have no doubt of your observations. It was a blood bath, and that was in my area where at least cheap jobs were available. As I continued in a practice largely adolescents and families I can tell you the long term price price paid by the entire family, especially the children cannot be measured, in virtually all these families where educated middle management fathers were discarded by employers like so much chaff. Most never got back on that tract. Those who did were by my observation those who went into business for themselves. It has just been wave after wave of this for so long that most can’t now recall what job security and the promise of long term goals being fulfilled was.
Of course by the late nineties big Pharma did away with real psychiatric treatment that was primarily the talk kind.
I don’t have figures but I would think now the suicide rates will soar above any I saw simply because many suicides can be prevented simply by having someone to talk to.
But you know all that.
good to hear the role turned full time and hopefully will be long lasting…one day at a time my dear
Well, don’t look to the White House for empathy. There are too many examples that show their indifference to the little people. Remember when the White House proposed Michele Obama’s child obesity program they requested that the Food Stamp Program be cut to pay for it. Just think about that for a second. That’s what Congress did. It’s outrageous and not indicative of the values that drew me to the Democratic Party some 50 years ago. I don’t recognize these self-promoting assholes anymore. Congress could care less about the most vulnerable as long as they’re in safe districts for reelection.
Okay, not the subject? Why try to change it simply because it isn’t going your way?
I just lost my job after heading a project helping the many men and women returning to their communities after incarceration. For ten years, my project was financially independent. Due to a whole slew of events (organizational “re-prioritizing,” one of my major funders falling victim to, yes, Madoff, state and city cutbacks, etc.), my project was operating in the red.
This is the first time I’ve unemployed in over 15 years and the market out here is scary. Margaret has it correct: NOT working is the hardest work!
Luckily, I’m doing a little consultancy work that helps with the little I get from UI. I live in NYC and that barely pays the rent. It’s a struggle to even maintain a sense of humor and optimism in the face of the rejections.
The thing is over the years my project had helped thousands of people get their lives back together. If I’m struggling and I have an advanced degree with plenty experience, I can’t imagine what it’s like for the people I had served.
Hi Margaret you are tougher than most. A corporate buyout or some other event can take any job. My point is we are all at risk for all the above concerns as wall street has destabilized the work force, de-unionized so no protections or advocates to run interference. We are at their mercy and profit rules over all.
What she said!
Dental too…do you have a reasonable copay?
I was picking up my latest paycheck this morn from Altres, I had to wait a few minutes while they’d quickly dispensed with a 20 yro aspirant…! The killer question was ‘have you been gainfully employed in the last 6 mos.?’ When he said ‘No’, She said ‘bye’…! 8-(
I worked in a very similar situation and received significant funding from George Soros’ Open Society Institute. Is it too late to explore that funding avenue? It’s in NYC. The OSI has prison reform and offender reintroduction as a major part of its mission.
I really don’t understand the refusal to employ the unemployed. Makes no sense.
The truth is it may be easier for them than you. I mean its tough for everyone. But if Obama wants to build a bridge or put in some rail, how does that help you. Those type projects eventually will improve things for everyone, infrastructure always does. But they are only going to hire a small segment of America on the front end. As a progressive, I am in favor of improving things and doing TVA/Hoover Dam type projects. As the unemployed I think all these “jobs” bills dont do squat for me.
Young and inexperienced seems to be the ideal candidate these days.
The funny part was that She’d remarked to me soon afterwards that while she needs a much larger ‘spotter pool’, she refuses to shell out the $600 bucks for the mandatory, High Altitude ‘Stress Test’ for each ‘spotter’ candidate, and, even had bitched that she, as ‘branch manager’, had to cover our ‘liability’ too, mind ya, she makes $8 off of every $10 I make…! 8-(
These are people who are used to having to struggle and overcome obstacles of all kinds. Since they are already on the bottom, becoming unemployed is not the great shock it is to a white man or woman used to living at a higher status in society. And if you are living among people who are all struggling, losing a job does not have the shame and stigma it has for people like you and me, Mr. H. Poor people are also more often generous and wiling to pitch in, share and help one another, whereas a middle class person who falls out of the mainstream will be quickly abandoned and shunned and judged as a failure by “friends and neighbors”. I can tell you that from personal experience.
Like a Rolling Stone
When you ain’t got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You’re invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone
Clinton administration cut food stamps by $29 billion lunch money and other aid to the poor. While corporate takeovers amd walmart style operations destroyed family businesses. NAFTA style job transfers wrecked jobs for the poor. When I here a foreign voice I ask where they are as this is an outsorced American job.
thats simply how Human Resources thinks. for me its ass backwards. like why would you hire someone unloyal and actively seeking other opportunities — often on that companies time!
I havent expeirenced that so openly. My expeirence is that you have to give them a number up front on salary before they say another word to you. The wrong number and your “email” interview is over. You dont get to progress to the first round of “phone” interviews (their can be several).
While Im ranting… another that has me laughing are these vague blind ads on the jobsites. They dont really give you any information. But then you are expected to write a cover letter telling them why you are the perfect person for the job or some such. Thats just silly if I dont really know what the job is about or what the company actually does or even its name . They will not accept anything without the cover letter and you salary requirements.
There is also the factor that prolonged stress, anxiety, uncertainty, shame, fear and anger floods your body with stress hormones and locks your nervous system into tension and alarm reactions, and all of this makes you sick pretty fast. Heart problems, stomach and digestive problems, high blood pressure, high blood pressure, adrenal exhaustion and immune system breakdown can have serious and often fatal results. If you can’t afford doctor visits, tests and medication you can be in a bad situation pronto, and no way to deal with it.
I don’t think too many people who have jobs in this economy are looking for work. Seems to me they would be afraid of losing the job they already have if their references are checked. So the available workers would be UNemployed. Isn’t that logical?
You are absolutely right. In fact, research from the 1950s, particularly part of the famous New Haven study, showed that the stress of trying to stay in the middle class caused more mental health issues among middle and lower-middle class people than those in even lower socio-economic strata. The studies did not look at suicide rates, to my knowledge.
David H’s trolling is incredible, with belief in his own infallibility and brilliance substituting for common sense. The man seems not to understand the difference between descriptive statistics and correlative statistics, or statistics that test hypotheses. Hey, David, have you ever even taken a statistics class? I doubt it.
For all those here who are suffering or have felt like giving up, or indeed basically have given up, please do not suffer alone. Most communities have Suicide Prevention numbers, or low-fee or pro bono counselors, or Good Samaritan programs where people will come to your house.
I used to volunteer at San Francisco Suicide Prevention, and we used to get calls from all over the nation. To find someone in your area, call 1-800-SUICIDE.
The corporate elites, like the idea of a permanent under class
thus the desire to keep, the un-employed, un-employed at all cost I guess
the Koch Brothers have been on a crusade to destroy Public Education in the USA, the mission here is to create a cheap labor force.
Corporate USA is completely out of control!
Obama Job Czar Jeffrey Immelt, GE Ceo loves sending Jobs to China
“Jeffrey Immelt, the head of Barack Obama’s highly touted “Jobs Council”, is moving even more GE infrastructure to China”
Link Below
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/ge-ceo-jeffrey-immelt-the-head-of-obamas-jobs-council-is-moving-jobs-and-economic-infrastructure-to-china-at-a-blistering-pace
Can’t wait to hear Obama Job Speech? For LOL
Obama may give the speech in Shanghai? who knows
Your last sentence is truly funny. Needed the laugh.
…and other aid to the poor.
What people fail to grasp is the extent of Bubba’s ‘Welfare Reform’… It didn’t reform ‘financial assistance’ it basically ended it…! In essence, each and every, American can receive 5 yrs of ‘financial assistance’ over their entire Lifetime…! That’s it…! They’ll still receive ‘SNAP’(food stamps), but that’s it…! Wtf is that…?
Anyways, coupled with the Repeal of Glass-Steagal, and, Bubba sorely deserves much of the credit for our current malaise…! 8-(
It galls me that nobody in the current administration empathizes with people who have run out of options, for whom the savings account is empty, credit cards maxed out, and unemployment exhausted, with nowhere to turn.
I am not talking about the deliberately idle but people of the working class for whom having a job has always been a point of pride, who have been thrown out due to plant closures, factories moved offshore, and other manifestations of greed. These people are victims.
What happened to insure domestic tranquility and promote the general Welfare? The influence of avaricious individuals and corporations have made them irrelevant. Our government is hardly recognizable any more. Who is it for, if not people?
Only for the rich – not us.
Clinton said at the time “don’t worry about it, we’ll change it back when we regain control of Congress.” Obama is going to propose two or three more free trade agreements next month and he’s going to lie through his teeth that it’s going to create jobs. He’ll be correct if he’s referring to slave labor jobs being created overseas. Also, what exactly is he talking about changing the patent laws. Better read that one closely since he’s claiming it will be a job creator. Unless a million new patent clerk will be hired, it’s just more bullshit blather from Obama. And of course he’s going to propose an extension of the payroll tax which adversely effects Social Security.
omg… thats a big stumbling block with me with the Human Resources types….you have to have 3 references they check.
I have been told they dont count because they are from jobs 5 or + years ago. Its hard to come up with. Once place I worked is out of business. Another was bought out by another company. Others there is no one there that would even know who I was. I was a final candidate a while back but they couldnt get a reference. at my recent job, Anyone who would have been a reference was let go as well
So yeah I cant imagine what they do with these people with current jobs.
You also get asked insensitive questions. When I was looking for a job after a 2005 layoff “I would be asked things like how was i getting by with no job?” I always want to simply tell the truth… I dont have gas service to the house and havent had a hot shower in 6 months and live off black beans and rice. If you dont hire me the water will probably be shut of next week so cold showers wont be an issue anymore.
i also wanted to say Bravo what you were doing. I did community service instead of actually paying a ticket. on several of the job assignments i had to do they had parolees. I heard a lot of their stories and it was sad how the deck was stacked against them. Its like the system was designed to make them fail. A couple of them had all this crap they had to show up for or do and were stil expected to somehow get a real job.
“Unemployment is Killing People”
So?
Thank you Dr. Kaye for this reminder on the relationship between unemployment and the risk of suicide.
HR *enforces* company policy. People who spend their dismal lives doing that work voluntarily choose to identify themselves with and prostrate themselves to “the company” and to management. They are not innocents only “reflecting” company policy.
And god what an odious career area name, almost as revealing as “Human Capital”. I and the rest of the proles – we’re “resources” for the capitalist grinding machine.
I did just find a job starting Monday with a defense contractor. A temp service that made me sign a waver of all benefits, no holidays, no sick, no vacation. Pay is decent though.
I was laid off from my below my skill level job a few months ago due to amateur low-mid level management. They actually lost business to other US factories within the same company. A bunch of kids and immature adults who thought they would impress corporate by treating their experienced, high productivity workers like they do in China. (Ain’t workin’ out very well for them I hear).
I just polished off my meager 401k and stock and was starting to think seriously about just ending it. It wasn’t a big deal, there just wasn’t any point to doing this anymore. I live in Florida so it would have been starving with a place to live or living in a cardboard box with food.
Now I am trying to figure out how to get bus fare to get to work and how to keep our rent paid while I wait 3 weeks for my first check.
Just giving up still seems like an attractive alternative. (Not really an option because I have people counting on me.)
I really sympathize with those who do just give up.
And Margaret:
Thank you for the best description ever. Add to that how horrible weekends are since there is no chance of making any progress on Saturday or Sunday.
When Pres. Obama announced that we might not get our SS Checks this month I got into my change and bought enough gasoline to stage a protest from the old days when the Monks doused themselve then lit themselves on fire. I remember how deeply it effected me back then to think of how and why of their act. I knew if I didn’ recieve my check I would be forced to live without the medicine that barely gets me thru the day. I could not imagine living in that kind of pain for more than a couple hours let alone the weeks or months it might have taken to start the money flowing again.
I know I’m not the only one out there that had planned their death if the SS checks didn’t go out on time. When Pres. Obama dropped that bomb on the public I thought he was way out of line especially since there was not another word on the issue for weeks. Too many of us don’t get enough to live on now, to expect us to be able to sanely wait pateintly while Congress treats us as the flies they love to pull the wings off of. I plan to go out making a statement that can’t be ignored without hurting anyone but myself and I plan to do it without dragging things out. If enough of we disabled and elderly do the same just maybe it will light a real fire in DC.
Yeah, I think Obama is a heartless bastard.
Since it is probably true that it makes no difference to the rest of the heartless bastards in power whether you and I live or die, why waste your precious life on rebuking them.
They are scum and they aren’t worth a drop of your blood or mine.
Never give up. Please. Listen to me.
Don’t Give Up.
“David H’s trolling is incredible”
Upon reading David H’s first comment on this thread my thoughts leapt immediately to Cass Sunstein and cognitive infiltration. Now perhaps he has motives unrelated to Sunstein’s operation, but motives nonetheless. He is one of the more prolific newbie commenters here at FDL.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/15/sunstein
Our suffering is their entertainment.
Both Parties are enabling stealing everything, while blaming the retired, disabled, orphans, poor and working poor, using them as a smoke screen.
There is no statement that won’t be ignored, won’t go down the memory hole.
The only one that matters any more is the bank statement.
Been there.
Done that.
I love the over qualified meme they love to toss out. I guess they prefer if I was under qualified? No, they want us to be “perfectly” qualified. Not too much, not too little, just righttttttttttttttt … like the Fing 3 bears, just Fing ridiculous.
I took off all my extra stuff. Masters and above – not anymore. That was my first mistake. I wish someone had told me at the start to take those off. They are poison pills. As soon as these “employers” see it, they disregard as over qualified.
You also have to toss in some BS stuff. Appear “normal”, whatever the F that means.
And the unmitigated gall and smug attitude of many of these people is beyond me. They look down on me when I go to interview. Like I’m beneath them. Why? Because I’m looking for a job? It makes no sense. Apparently looking for a job means you are less than those with jobs, and much less than those who decide if you will get a job. Ridiculous and unprofessional behavior.
The whole thing is a giant joke. On us.
Yup, been there.
It’s getting worse believe it or not.
I’m not sure what these folks are doing, but the whole thing is a joke. On us.
Not only is getting a job next to impossible, it’s demeaning and a lot worse than many of us had before.
Attractive alternative? “there just wasn’t any point to doing this anymore”? The casual way you say it tells me you’re in the same boat as I. The thing is that once you’re out in the streets, there really is no chance you can come back. And our “leaders” are making that more of a reality every day. Now they don’t just push you to the edge, they toss you off it and make sure you can never climb back.
Sick, twisted, destructive, … that’s what this whole system has become.
Good luck in the new job.
Peace.
I have no trouble believing any of those studies… being unemployed is draining both psychically and physically.
Clearly, the financial elites have no CLUE about what is making everyone so crazy, i.e., those who do not have jobs.
The China myth:
http://www.fastcompany.com/1773403/made-in-china-the-3-that-would-save-our-economy
Long, but informative.
Some financial elites have lost jobs too. Unemployment does not hit only those in minimum wage jobs. If you’re in a middle management or even upper level management job, with a couple of kids in college, it is no less stressful to lose your job than it would be in any other position.
It probably comes down to how one defines “financial elite”. Clearly, people in Geithner, Bernake and Greenspan’s league [the policy makers] don’t have to worry much about losing their jobs and not being able to find another one. [Even John Yoo got a pretty good job, after all.]
If you are defining “financial elite” to mean just a handful of people, then it’s really not even worth considering. Financial elite really refers to people at the upper levels of the income scale and there are millions of them. But even middle income folks are struggling with job loss, there’s almost no income group that has been unscathed.
the writer of this story is an enabler of excuses. these people are weak and they will take any over reaching excuse the sympathetic type feed them and run with it. why add to their problems?