(photo: pweiskel08 )Support for Occupy Wall Street is growing by the hour. Solidarity actions in Chicago, Phoenix and Paris, France, are all getting off the ground. In Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Atlanta, actions are in the works. Each of these may be occupations. And, now there is indication the Industrial Workers of the World will have members at the site supporting the occupation plus it appears Sojourner’s, a Christian Left organization, is taking an interest in the action.
Additionally, this morning there is no explicit NYPD intimidation or harassment of the occupation to report. Some time during the night the police did approach and “dismantle” a projector that was being used to project Twitter updates on #OccupyWallStreet onto a sheet. The police gave some excuse that it blocked “line of sight” and so would not be allowed. There was also talk last night that police were claiming the “Sanitation Code” gave them the right to seize the tarps from the protesters as they did Tuesday morning.
From day one, FDL has been live blogging this action. I (and a team of dedicated FDLers who are constantly posting updates in the comments thread) have banded together to give you the latest updates and insight into the occupation. Here’s a list on Twitter to follow if you would like read reports from Liberty (Zuccotti) Park, where the encampment for the occupation is located.
LIVESTREAM FROM GLOBAL REVOLUTION
6:20 PM Occupy Wall Street protesters have been showing solidarity with Troy Davis, who will be executed at 7 pm. I am following the execution right now here. I will be back to live blogging after this atrocity has been averted or completed.
4:30 PM Liberato’s Pizza has a kind of public service announcement for its customers on their Facebook page. It has to do with democracy:
Democracy – Is a form of government in which all people have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law. It can also encompass social, economic and cultural conditions that enable the free and equal practice of political self-determination.
I also assume many in a democracy eat and enjoy Occu-Pies regularly. What a great pizza place.
4:07 PM Report from OccupyWallSt.org on the four people arrested so far today. The two arrests around 12:30 PM ET have not been reported here yet so here’s an excerpt on that:
People were peacefully assembling on the sidewalk and the police told the public that they could not stand on public sidewalks. one person, was standing peacefully on the sidewalk and holding up a sign and the police swarmed him and arrested him. he peacefully went with them, without resisting in any way. People then peacefully walked with him and chanted in solidarity. And the police ran into the middle of the crowd and tackled one of the people there, and arrested him.
There’s also an “eyewitness account” from a demonstrator that is worth reading.
2:25 PM Cenk Uygur on Occupy Wall Street – “Let’s go get ‘em. If you want to join and sit down, I totally encourage that because these are the guys that robbed you and continue to rob you.”
1:32 PM via Waging Nonviolence — “Mariel moshri, arrested yesterday at #libertyplaza, was just released.”
1:26 PM Another arrest. His name is Kevin Graham.
1:19 PM Eyewitness accounts of arrest earlier this morning (I’ll comment: if you say “fuck” to a police officer, you probably will be escalating the situation enough to justify an arrest) — Video here and here.
12:00 PM What happened to Mariel?
11:54 AM Two must-reads on the Occupy Wall Street, both posted at The Guardian: Amy Goodman’s article “Why Occupy Wall Street makes sense” and Micah White and Kallie Lasn’s “The call to occupy Wall Street resonates around the world.”
11:50 AM Video of the earlier reported arrest.
10:35 AM Sleep deprivation?

10:30 AM Another arrest at 10:10 AM. The report is the person blew a horn too close to a police man on a megaphone.
9:55 AM 11 Things You Can Do to Help the Occupy Wall Street Movement
9:49 AM A couple of buses from Wisconsin on the way to Occupy Wall Street.
9:40 AM A march in progress
Earlier updates from Day 4
- FDL user athena1 reports:
“Speaker just got out of a meeting with the International Workers of the World and they are ON BOARD and wanting to HELP! HUGE CHEERS! They will be joining them on thursday for a global day of action. Want to know if it’s ok for a speaker from the IWW to inform the GA on local labor struggles. Want someone to stop by 12:30 PM tomorrow to talk to GA. Want to bring workers to join them in a night march with their children for all to see the solidarity. MORE HUGE CHEERS. IWW has giving them the little red songbook and the little red coloring book. ‘Can the IWW join us?’ CHEERS!!! Giant IWW banner provided.”
- Individuals arrested are not being arraigned until 1 am. Meanwhile, 20 Occu-pies are being delivered every hour until they are all released.
- Internet was not shut down as if San Francisco’s BART had somehow taken control of the park area.
-Raw footage of arrests from Tuesday



563 Comments

Morning, Kevin.
SouthernDragon would be pleased that his Wobblies are on board (he probably knows already).
I guess they’re marching again, and gaining new recruits:
Edit: You’re quick today, Kevin!
Allison Kilkenny plugs her new article in Nation on the occupation.
Alternet: 11 Things You can do to help the #OccupyWallStreet movement
I posted this in the Evening blog and on the Support diary, but it is good enough to repost here.
Confirmed???
Multiple tweets. Appears she was arrested at least 23 hrs. ago.
Would be cool to merge the Tar Sands protest with OccupyWallStreet.
Wonderful news!
That’s the goal, create a movement. Slow process, baby steps.
Wobblies at the occupation!!!
Right on!!!
Hey Jane, if you are reading, I just wanted to say that I hope everything is going okay.
Take care!
Photo up on live stream of gentleman with body paint that says “Free Bradley Manning.”
Tangential– “So Much for the Apolitical Fed” (EmptyWheel.Net, by emptywheel, Sept. 21, 2011)
Death-And-Destruction Day Trading: Do Bankstas Dream of Robo Assassins? “Should David Petraeus Be Replaced With a Computer?” (EmptyWheel.Net, by Jim White, Sept. 20, 2011)
“The Great Tar Sands Stand-off [Infographic]” (HuffingtonPost.Com, Sept. 20, 2011)
‘Harmony Through Universal Responsibility’: His Holiness the Dalai Lama concludes his visit to Latin America (Sept. 18, 2011)
Apparently the hashtag #undergroundrailroad is for folks offering a sofa to travelers going to #OccupyWallStreet
There he is! Hey, SD!
I thought of you immediately when I saw that! Nice way to start the day, no?
And #iwilloccupy is a contest for free tickets to NY for the best tweet.
Seems the arrestee is Isaac Wilder, ref #8 above.
Buses from Wisconsin. Nice. It’s a good morning.
So glad to see that occupation went up 200 over the night!
Since I just rolled out of bed here on the west coast, what are the arrests about? Was there a march or are the arrests more for general purposes because the police can?.
I was really boweled over yesterday at the great number of suits with the cops.
WOOT!! *snoopy dance*
It is indeed a good morning …
Momentum is growing …
DW
They are not allowed to touch trees, benches, or walls.
Looks like they marched again this AM at about the opening bell. One arrest (Wilder). The other (Mariel) was yesterday, no real details.
Hey, EW’s post is well worth reading. She is spot on. A superb post.
It ties into Occupy as well.
They are still requesting batteries and chargers for Dell 1585.
Could have something to do with Obama being in town.
First the Wobblies, then a picket line. Experience helps.
I stayed up very late last night waiting to see if live stream came back up. Now it is down again!
Vid of Wilder’s arrest.
It’s funny reading troll comments dismissing the protesters like they always do, how they’re all trust fund kids. The videos I’ve watched show one of the most diverse protest crowds I’ve ever seen. If anything, the stereotypical RATM college student and crust-punks are in a great minority. Whatever trust fund kids are left in this country, I presume they are living it up with the cool kids and celebrities in NYC and Williamsburg, not protesting in Wall Street risking arrest.
Details on where and how to send?
Hey, MayDaze. I’m astonished that folks remember that I’m a Wobbly.
I may be in SF today on business, if so, I’ll go by occypyFDSF and report here. I’m very curious…
You betch’um, Red Ryder.
I’m wondering how many phone calls Mayor Bloomberg got on that police brutality! I felt great pride when they chanted the world is watching!
Send to Vlad or Spike at Liberty Park is all I have seen.
You’re famous for it!
Heh, famous or infamous? *g*
Media coverage:
The Guardian, Amy Goodman
The NYC Indypendent
That really gave me pause. Note that the UN session started in NYC yesterday on live stream (a first).
Heh. Maybe both? *g*
Me too. I’m wondering if Portland is going to join in. It’s generally accepted that Portland is now what SF was before the tech boom. SF is a beautiful city with a rich history of being much further left than mainstream US, but the cost of living became way too high there and remains so. Portland is affordable and left twenty-somethings have been increasingly flocking there.
Question for Kevin, why was she removed from the list?
Powerful words, “The world is watching,” especially when we (the US leadership) use “democratic values” to pitch development and/or destruction of other nations in order to bring “fair democratic values” such as “free speech” and “equality” to other nations and use such “humanitarian values” as a diplomatic trump card.
Live stream now showing arrested from yesterday.
Portland has the best book store in the world, Powell’s. I remember when it was a little place with stacks of books on the floors everywhere.
Just for discussion. I’m of the opinion you can do both. But being more specific about the behaviors of “the rich” would help clarify things for those who aren’t.
Will Pentagon Contractors Get The Super Congress to Gut The Social Safety Net? (AlterNet.Org, Sept. 21, 2011)
“A new report from the Economic Policy Institute calculates 2.8 million U.S. jobs have been lost to China since 2001, the year the country joined the World Trade Organization.” (WashingtonIndependent.Com, Sept. 20, 2011)
“Inside the Trillion-Dollar Underground Economy Keeping Many Americans (Barely) Afloat in Desperate Times” (AlterNet.Org, Sept. 16, 2011)
OT– UPDATE: Parole board rejects reconsideration of Troy Davis clemency denial 10:41am EST
October 6th – October2011.Org: Nonviolence Resources – The Metta Center for Nonviolence
I lived in Portland (temporarily fleeing the high cost of living in SF) in the late 90′s. Beautiful, IMO, but a little bit too provicial for me.
Are you in Portland or SF?
Yes, I was watching the Obama/Benito speech this morning while I was sending out my emails. He is offering to uphold the rights of world citizens and it makes me sick that we can’t even have the right to assemble here!
FWIW
4 floors downtown location; cozy but packed Hawthorne location. Constant stream of author lectures and book signings. Of course quick eats, hot and cold beverages and wifi at the adjacent “Fresh Pot.”
Green Apple books in SF is my all time favorite book store, but Powell’s is great.
IMO a “laser-like focus” is exactly what we don’t need. A movement needs to have broad, almost nebulous goals in order to attract as many as possible. The time for focus is after the movement gains steam.
Edit: IMO this is where the left always gets into trouble, arguing over minutiae way too early.
MZC @ 56
“…hot and cold beverages and wifi at the “Fresh Pot.”
And would they sell coffee or something other than caffeine?
That’s a LOL name for an establishment!
Or go to Williamsburg and say it’s a pre-CMJ fest, but byob, Bring Your Own Bands.
F’ing corporate media. Dudes, this is a peaceful action.
At the original location I got a first edition of T E Lawrence’s Seven Pillars of Wisdom for $9, 1978-79. Price is in pencil and still on the flyleaf.
Watch the Global Revolution livestream or Oblahblah put on a total banksta tool break dance at the UN? Easy choice!
Lot going on today. I probably wouldn’t add too much commentary but would there be interest in having a feed of the speeches at the UN General Assembly posted at the Dissenter so FDLers can talk to one another about any of the speeches.
Felipe Calderon is speaking right now.
Roger that.
Only one I’m really interested in is Abbas’.
OOOooh … They put author-signed books on the shelves in unexpected places. Nice benny.
{ LOL } Scott Brown melt-down over Warren poll gains (RawStory.Com, Sept. 21, 2011):
I’m just a Peasant, but my thoughts are that yes people need to see this.
Things are so bad in the world right now that all the leaders speechifying needs to be scrutinized.
Sure– we’ll heckle ‘em if they deserve it.
HuffPo’s coverage of the occupation is conspicuous by its absence.
LOL! Yeah, but livestream is down for Liberty park now.
And I think David Dayen will probably get a post up on Palestinian statehood issue today or tomorrow. Okay. Well, I will keep an eye out. If anything interesting is said beyond the platitudes I am hearing I’ll post.
Okay nice. I’ll see if I can embed C-SPAN video and get something up.
heh heh heh
The vote is on Friday? Or the language is introduced on Friday? Yes. It is important to have a post up, IMO, even if there aren’t a lot of comments. Who else is going to cover it? That’s a rhetorical q.
Realizing “drug war” is to Mexico what “torture” is to US.
I agree with you about timing. And in fact, that sorting out and consensus is one of the things going on in the general assembly and likely will be a continuing process as more people join in. Until some critical mass is reached and answering “what do you demand” is necessary to keep the momentum going. Right now, the emphasis on creating and holding the public space for that to happen is the right one.
Kevin, how about putting @Korgasm_ back on the list?
Don’t remember. Too many things to keep track of. Senior disease. *g*
IMO if the “wheels” had brains instead of just money and hubris, “what do you demand?” would be one of the first things they would ask. Guaranteed to drive dissension. Good thing they have so much vanity.
Indeed, this demo is revealing a lot about which side all the players are on, isn’t it? I welcome the clarity. Btw, I have a buddy who is in the VA system on Long Island. He says most vets there are not aware of the demo. He is posting notices in hopes some will join in. I think that would be great.
Read here then where we’ll continue to give great links to all the dimensions of the issues! Plus we do read Twitter.
Good morning, DW. Didn’t see you around yesterday, I was afraid the crows might have gotten you lol.
Yeahwedos!
I just can’t run twitter and live feed at the same time. My system is too old to handle it and live blog. Also, I need to make a few errands here shortly and will be away for about two hours. If you guys will be on watch, I’ll take over when I get back.
That would be great, rc, and those who have suggests many American flags accompany the “occupatiion” have a great insightful idea as well.
(BTW, you and SD were something to behold on a certain post …)
;~DW
“In response to PeasantParty @ 39 (show text)
Powerful words, “The world is watching,” especially when we (the US leadership) use “democratic values” to pitch development and/or destruction of other nations in order to bring “fair democratic values” such as “free speech” and “equality” to other nations and use such “humanitarian values” as a diplomatic trump card.”
Yes! This is brilliant.
This is cool:
No, just other life demands … but I did check in, lurkishly, whenever I could.
(It’s good ta be “missed” … sometimes, rc.)
;~DW
Yep
That would be great. Cops don’t like dealing with vets.
Apologize for the diversion. C-SPAN doesn’t enable embedding of their livestreams. Back to focus on #OccupyWallStreet etc…
Song “For Bradley Manning“:
What the bankstas don’t want you to know: 50 Ways to Leave the Military Industrial Complex (David Swanson, Sept. 20, 2011)
Korgasm is back on the list
Thanks, Kevin.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=hLAzAAAAIBAJ&sjid=uTIHAAAAIBAJ&pg=938,434225&dq=wall+street+protest&hl=en
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=TjFfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=LU8NAAAAIBAJ&pg=4316,1990023&dq=wall+street+protest&hl=en
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=UdY0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=nW4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6709,6707506&dq=wall+street+protest&hl=en
Looking forward to seeing what the detractors have to say when this builds into something unignorable.
Lurking via phone!
Thanks for that! Solidarity with all the times the 99%ers have been to Wall Street!
More information on Mariel
Folks are trying to confirm this apparently and are having difficulty with info from NYPD.
“New York’s finest” my ass. Must have taken some courses at School of the Americas.
Link for the Twitter list? Did it go dead or were you redoing it, Kevin?
Need the URL in the diary.
Let your religious friends, family, neighbors and coworkers know. Are the bankstas ready for da Rapture?
Yay Wobblies!
LOL. Not always agreeing with, but ALWAYS respecting him. That was quite a brawl on that post, hopefully most took it as good, clean fun. I know I always enjoy a good. creative insult-fest. Actually learned a few new words. Would you believe it? And had a lot of good laughs.
Another fleshie heard from!
Only the good get missed, IMO.
Thanks for digging these links up.
There was them what kept their coolth, rc …
I preferred to check it out … after … words.
;~DW
This works anywhere, but it works faster in NYC
Link now in the blog.
And it works.
Virtual one! There in spirit if not in the fl… Well, you know!
Today’s agenda:
Per: Occupy Wall Street
Not that suggesting this means anything here, but I think the broadest one demand should be agreed upon and put forward for now, then when they feel the time is right, start working on specific, and then they can possibly work in splinter groups for even more specific demands depending on their personal beliefs. Anarchists, “Tea Party”-ers, Democrats, ex-Wall Streeters, and Libertarians may find some issues they have in common, but it’ll be harder to find agreement as they dig deeper into specifics. As a whole, when asked by the media, they can focus on the broadest agreed upon demands so it doesn’t allow the media to paint the protest as a mish-mash of fringe groups with conflicting demands.
Hey, everyone! Good morning/afternoon!
Their agenda for today:
https://occupywallst.org/article/sept-21-agenda/
I recognize her from one of the arrest videos yesterday. She was giving the cops a “hard time,” i.e., demanding her rights. Guess this is what she gets for it.
Edit: she was suing shit like, “get your hands off me,” etc., not really very smart. But she still has rights. They’ll probably hold her the max time before charging her.
I’m too slow!
Was she the one yelling “I do not consent to search!” and ” I have not been told why I am being detained!”?
Yeah, I edited the comment. That was her.
Edit: in the comment above, that’s supposed to be “saying,” not “suing.” Damn autocorrect!
10 Rules for Dealing with Police
Four parts but essential if you’re gonna find yourself confronted by the heat.
IMO, central issue should be “Rule of law, applied equally to everyone.”
Cocksucker Caradona!!
I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!!!!
Vid.
http://www.twitvid.com/RVKC3
video about new arrest.
Hopefully it’s in English and not Arabic.
Well, we’ve been wondering when the “youth vote” would become active.
Hey, NYPD, how do ya like ‘em now, motherfuckers?
Just a friendly correction:
You write, “there is indication the International Workers of the World will have members at the site supporting the occupation.”
If it’s the Wobblies you are referring to, the name of the organization is actually the Industrial Workers of the World.
That would be immediate answer right now, given the circumstances, if anyone asks.
Lot of people make that mistake and I left it alone.
I bet that is what he said. Actually, I’m 99.9999% sure (given what the speaker said about the little red songbook, huge banner, etc.)
Everything else flows from that.
Sorry! I was listening and typing at the same time.
I’ve been following the #OccupyWallStreet “all” stream.
The good news. The number of trolls and spammers is increasing. Looks like the action is beginning to hit a nerve in the Twitterverse, and some folks are not pleased.
It also appears that folks there are seeing things get more organized and beginning into a routine. With the expected NYPD harassment part of what is now considered routine.
Folks are beginning to ask about the restraining order and when that will happen.
another vid about new arrest:
http://www.twitvid.com/I9BUH
Another vid account of the arrest at 121.
You beat me this time!
Wasn’t you. Kevin used International vice Industrial in the 1st para of the post.
LOL.
I’ve asked 5 people at car repair if they knew about this action. None did. When I explained a couple soon moved to other seats when they could. Conservative area.
I wrote “International” in the original paraphrased transcription last night, tho.
Now you’ll be known as one of those dfh’s. Welcome to the club. *g*
This is quite upsetting to read about. A separate post about her would be smart.
Did we ever get confirmation on whether the arrest of the individual with asthma is correct? If so, make their stories a separate post.
Well, then, we’ll just hafta sit you in da corner for a while. *g*
Excellent idea.
LOL Was that from fear that you’d riot?
I threw my lot in with you all a while back. No regrets.
They’re afraid leftism is contagious. They’d be right.
AFAIK (mostly from the twitter feed), the guy with asthma was arrested but did not end up in critical condition, even though there was a diary up that said he was. Lots of distortions and rumors on twitter, sometimes hard to tell the real story until much later.
I’ve been trying to call the mayor’s office to complain about police brutality. I was using the number that I got on one of these live blogs, but all I ever got was a busy signal and when I googled the mayor’s office, it now appears the number I got here was off by one number.
If you’re in New York City, you can call 311. If not, you can call 1-212-639 9675, which will take you to the New York City 311 system.
They would not relay my message to the mayor as they “can only take calls on opinions and comments about the mayor and New York City policies.”
Leslie was willing to take a complaint about a New York City agency. Here’s the email copy I received of the complaint I made about the New York City Police Department:
CALLER STATES SHE WOULD LIKE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE BRUTAL WAY POLICE ARE TREATING PEACEFUL PROTESTERS ON WALL STREET. THE CALLER STATES SHE WOULD LIKE THE POLICE TO STOP TREATING PEACEFUL PROTESTERS VIOLENTLY.
They’ll let me know the status within 14 days.
I’ll now see about emailing the mayor. Be back soon.
I’d like to think so
Hooo, mama!!!
Again, great minds thinking alike!
Officer Cardona seems to be one busy go-getter. Anyone know his rank?
Asshole world class?
Here’s the website that lets a person email the mayor:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mayor.html
How to get through by phone, I haven’t yet discovered.
Reposted to the Support #OccupyWallStreet diary.
Snort!
Well golly, you don’t need a white shirt and a gold shield to make that.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=6UQsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ncoEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6762,284840&dq
Did I pick that expression up from you, or you from me?
They figger the shirt and shield makes it legit.
Added that link as well to the Support #OccupyWallStreet diary.
If’n yer talkin’ to me methinks you picked it up from me. I use it quite often.
Here’s a copy of my email message to the mayor: Its appalling to see the New York City police being violent with the peaceful protestors on Wall Street. Please require your police to treat the protestors and their equipment with care and respect. Cameras and video equipment should not be confiscated.
Have at it!
Thanks TD
If you’ve seen pictures from Monday and yesterday, that seems to be the case. The white shirt and the gold shield seem to create more anger. Must be pissed at all the overtime that is coming out of his budget.
Thanks again.
The heat is going to use any means of intimidation they can get away with. Excessive force and damaging/destroying personal property are tactics to prevent possible joiners from doing so.
Well, getting the details about Mariel Moshiri would be important to gather and to write a post about it. A timeline might make the points about her arrest more clear and cogent.
She is 17 years old and they have not contacted her parents or legal guardian? And, she has a medical condition?
Big time bad decision by someone.
Now that’s what I call a broadbased revolution. Wall Street worker being held in an office?
I don’t see that diary. Where is it?
Overtime for NYPD has gotta be a nice chunk of extra change in their pockets, and they get to beat on people as a bonus.
Another new arrest:
http://lockerz.com/s/140710043
Thank you so very much for this coverage! I’ve followed everyday and I am getting excited as the protest begins to truly grow.
Kevin, could you put a list of those arrested and the disposition of their cases as a summary at the top of the diary? NYPD just arrested a guy named Kevin Graham, who is not a youngster.
any reason for this arrest?
Got it. I’ll make correction.
Especially so if there are little gold insignia on the collar points, TD.
With many photos, if there is a series, you can ramp up the magnification on some shots sufficiemtly to see the name tag …
DW
If you find an email for the mayor, please share!
Good idea. I need to talk to someone doing media relations for this because it would be good to be able to list out people arrested and the status of the arrests. However information is scant on some of these incidents.
All you tweeters give her some love.
Here:
Acttion: Support #OccupyWallStreet
Or the black ribbon.
Scant information can be noted. It is itself information.
Sheesh, it just dawned on me. You’re still at the car place? Well, ya sure don’t need a book today. *g*
We are getting organized. I hope that it is only a precaution and not needed.
Officer O’Neal’s, insignia, who was active several days ago, for example, indicate that he is a Deputy Inspector, a rank right above Captain …
Anyone above Sergeant will be wearing a white shirt.
DW
Is that like Deputy Dawg?
I would still do Mariel Moshiri’s arrest story as a separate story. She is 17 and her parents were not contacted?
If she has been held in any offensive fashion (as it sounds) it could end up being paralleled to the treatment of child prisoners in the WOT to an extent.
I’m not surprised. I just want the PtB in NYC to know we’re watching.
see my 160, if you haven’t already.
Validate this. That would be AFSCME?
IMO it’s just a question of when (i.e., dispersal).
Ya might wanna dig out a name of somebody in city govt, city council or whatever it is they have, and send ‘em an email saying the world is watching. Just might do that meself when I get back to work, matter o’ fack. Thanks for the idea.
Summut like.
But with more to “prove”, one imagines.
Wonder if Huff Po has noticed anythang yet, SD?
Fatster posted a link to the BBC, last evening, so we know the Brits are watching. Prolly are glad they haven’t responsibility for this place any longer …
DW
Roger that but I hope it’s gotten really huge by then.
Did you shower this morning? Some people don’t like the smell of goat lol.
Thanks! Have no idea how I missed it!
Nope. HuffPo goes down in my estimation with each passing day. Veal pen member extraordinaire.
Appears to be this AFSCME local. (At least, according to them.)
Edit: couldn’t find any confirmation on the website via a quick look.
FYI – the Out Wall Street link in the first sentence takes me to a Fox news site, main article about Tony Bennett………..
Livestream is live again. Audio is a little spotty.
You’ve got that right. I posted a few times yesterday over there “where is the coverage on Out Wall Street” and I still don’t see it. There was an article up on maybe Day 2 but that was it.
Thanks. That needs to be available where everyone can see it.
MODS?
Indeed. The abuses have their intended effect now, any possible remedies come only way down the road, if at all.
The Guardian is the new Huff Po, IMO.
Yep. it is indeed.
Gee, I guess I need to look at Kevin’s updates when I refresh the page. From (way) above:
I’m going to re-enter the info as a new diary soon (unless you want to. lol. I hate writing diaries.)
More like Deputy Dawgshit, methinks.
Livestream: ACAMPADA DEMOCRACIA REAL PARIS
Paris Financial District
Viva la revolucion!!
Mariel?
The owners control that plantation, and they are right-wingers now.
Problem for the heat is that their shit doesn’t work any more.
When I refresh, I am not seeing that update. What time was she released?
I had to refresh three times before it showed up.
Interesting to look at the times and compare to the posts here. The NYPD have someone reading here. Kevin, get the posts up on the arrested. Our comments/observations here are making a difference.
Sound is still really spotty on livestream. Sounds to me like they need a new XLR mic cable.
Under the Global Revolution video. If you don’t see it, your browser is apparently not really refreshing.
Edit: 24 minutes ago.
Yeah, I think my HuffPo days are over. Not into celebrity horseshit.
Is it almost 2 PM there?
Motherfuckers.
Shit, piss, fuck, I gotta go back to work. Will try to keep up.
Namaste
General rule of thumb is the media is only concerned about major protests overseas if it is also of interest to US politicians. Why the right gets more coverage in their protests in the US has several explanations, not simply it serves the interests of the kings at the top of the companies, but also the reporters are acting in their own interests (being socially liberal is common and fine, but going out of your way to report on left social movements can make them suspect, while reporting on the right’s social movements counter-balances accusations from the right that they favor Democrats [because many personally do]).
Yep, 1:55.
Her story has got to be written. She is 17 years old. She should have been held for 2 hours max and her parents should have been called as soon as she was arrested.
SD, you have a cure for that complaint?
Mine: well go create your own signs. And: Mispelings are catnip to the media.
Article on today’s arrests:
https://occupywallst.org/article/arrests-wednesday-sep-21/
Good idea. Here’s the New York City website listing the 51 city council members. The website says: “The Council is an equal partner with the Mayor in the governing of New York City.”
http://council.nyc.gov/html/about/about.shtml
I called the Speaker and her office told me there is NOT one email address I can use to send a message to all 51 members. She said that some city council members have only a web-based email form and no email address. She thought most members could be contacted by an email address. I’ll see about rounding up the info on who can be reached by email directly.
First, I must attend to lunchtime starvation.
Yeah, I’ve noticed there is a legit “pro-democrat bias.” But the flavor of the bias is of the “Regan Democrat” sort.
So we missed the IWW speaker at the GA. Bummer.
Wagenonviolence is giving GA updates (nice, since the livestream audio isn’t really working)
It’s not bureaucracy. It’ll help give some people something to do as a team and increase sign production. The signs are mostly hand-made at this protest, unlike those organized by major left organizations months in advance where tons of identical signs are made. People can leave and join as they please I imagine, or make their own like you said.
I am but they are going to get me a rental shortly. Should be reading Zinnemann but i’m lurking here too much. You at home?Zinnemann!
“…But I wouldn’t stop there. Strangely enough, I would turn to the Almighty, and say, “If you allow me to live just a few years in the second half of the twentieth century, I will be happy.” Now that’s a strange statement to make, because the world is all messed up. The nation is sick. Trouble is in the land. Confusion all around. That’s a strange statement. But I know, somehow, that only when it is dark enough, can you see the stars. And I see God working in this period of the twentieth century in a way that men, in some strange way, are responding–something is happening in our world. The masses of people are rising up. And wherever they are assembled today, whether they are in Johannesburg, South Africa; Nairobi, Kenya: Accra, Ghana; New York City; Atlanta, Georgia; Jackson, Mississippi; or Memphis, Tennessee–the cry is always the same–”We want to be free.”-MLK
I See The Promised Land.
Freedom from the financial oligarchs and war mongers is the struggle the people of the world in the 21st century must begin to grapple with. Our very environment is at stake.
Mariel’s mom just called me. She is free and on her way home. Details:
http://witsendnj.blogspot.com
Maybe they’ll tweet any major points.
Judging from the #designbycommitteeistheworst hashtag, I think that tweeter is probably a hater.
Also added to the Support #OccupyWallStreet diary.
I’ve mellowed. Smell like something you would spread on a cracker
Thanks for the update!
I was just googling last night to see if Noam had endorsed it yet.
Just rejoining thread, so don’t know which unions beyond IWW are joining, but does anyone know if the California Nurses Association showing up tomorrow? They’re on strike anyway…
Thank you so much!!!
Well, the bias is it needs to be supported by big dogs in Washington or in the top of local governments for it to be a story worth consistent coverage. In the case of Troy Davis, several Democratic politicians, including Jimmy Carter, have weighed in on it, so it’s now all right for the media to cover it. MSNBC has Al Sharpton there. I’m glad that’s getting coverage, but if those big dogs and others had not gotten involved, I would be surprised if it were on the news. It hasn’t been until the past 2 days. Anyway, when politicians get involved, the media can report on it from their perspective and remain within the Serious People bubble. If they go out and report on something that’s purely grassroots from the left, they risk falling outside that. Then they can be accused of aiding these crazy people, who no big dog politician has voiced support for, by a political party or by Very Important People. If they do, they have to be careful to keep a distance from the protesters (report on them, but don’t allow many or any to give their perspective), report from the point of view of the police, present skepticism and confusion towards the protesters, etc.
Yep, that was my thought. Just to let you know that some of the usual types are now on the unfiltered stream.
Damn phone is haunted. Keeps adding letters to his last name!
Back at work. Too bad we missed the Wobbly speaker(s).
Ha!
Hope someone from Vanderbilt contacts her to represent her.
Oh he’ll.
I’ve been seeing a lot of them since the beginning there. Maybe 1/3 are of that type. They’re on my mental ignore function. lol.
Excellent news that she’s free and headed home.
I think people in other cities getting involved will help keep NYC’ers out there and draw more people in. Same happened with the anti-globalization movement, though the protests were months apart, each one was built on the momentum of the previous, whether it was in North America, Europe, or South America.
“Cracker” is not a politcally correct appellation.
Isn’t there a law about meds while being detained?
An example trolling spammer–sometimes 10-12 tweets in succession. Most likely multiple people (boilerroom?) posting on same account.
Interesting if true. Link is to the civilian complaint board.
That’s fucking malicious.
She’s an entirely fictitious person.
Anonymous would reveal emails about how pension funds got attacked by the finan elite.
At least that is how Anon has shown to work in the past.
Keeps getting better. I think it’s over the first difficult phase, Monday and Tuesday, and will go on for at least another week, maybe a month or more, unless the police go ballistic.
Immediately report all fake users as spam and tweet to others to do the same. False info is being pushed to harm and discredit protesters.
OMG. That was funny!
Your tax dollars at work. Cue video of the sockpuppet from yesterday.
Yes but the heat always has an excuse as to whey they withheld somebody’s meds. Even if the person dies there are rarely consequences for the authorities.
But do not forget, she is a juvenile. A non-violent juvenile offender. (Only if exercising free speech and asking for clarifications on her charges is juvenile offender worthy.)
2:25 PM Cenk Uygur on Occupy Wall Street – “Let’s go get ‘em. If you want to join and sit down, I totally encourage that because these are the guys that robbed you and continue to rob you.”
This is why he’s not on MSNBC. He can’t say this until someone big in Washington does.
I’m back in. Just read over the updates and did a quick skim of the comments. I take it that live stream is still not working and that the GA meeting just happened. Correct?
They don’t give a rat’s ass. We’re talking about authoritarian control freaks here.
I hear you. I will still hope the !st Amend center sends a lawyer her way.
I would be on her team any day to see this go to court.
He just joined Current.
Yeah, giving someone a little training and a badge does something horrible to the ones that have ego problems.
It’s a pretty good video but he misses the point on the 1845 mask law. They’d just “imply” it from the vague antiterrorism laws if it wasn’t already on the books. Facial recognition software.
You and rc are problem children…… LOL
Duh. Ya think?
That ought to be actionable.
Wretch.
Cenk is on Current now? Al Gore’s station?
Snort. That’s a major waste of time. Been there, done that.
Yeah, announced yesterday or today.
I just got off the phone with one of the reporters at our local paper. He said he wasn’t aware of anything off the wire service that even metioned this protest.
He gave me the number of one of the editors and asked me to call him in 30 minutes.
I’ll see if I can put a burr under his saddleblanket. Then sit on it.
Sons-of-bitches wouldn’t know there was a rattler in their pants if somebody didn’t tell them about it.
Who are the famous liberals who haven’t endorsed OWS yet? Besides Matt Damon and Ben Affleck?
Just when I had decided to drop the whole matter . . .
I suspect that’s why folks are being forced in that direction. Is YouTube or yfrog identification of an officer valid? There could be a lot of complaints filed online. Or is this only for the “alleged victim”?
Good for you! The media blackout is maddening. There are so many things that Americans are prevented from seeing. Just think of how Dubya tried to pretend that Russia was the only place to censor the media.
You are right. This reporter was afraid to even answer my questions about why this wasn’t front page news. He kept saying, I can’t answer that, it’s above my pay grade.
The effectiveness of this near-total news blackout in the major media is really rather scary, as well as infuriating, when you think about it. I wonder if they’d even report a brutal police crackdown, since it would immediately raise an issue as to why they had no prior coverage for all this time. Fucking whores, they have forfeited the right to call themelves legitimate news organizations, IMO.
Makes one wonder why they still call themselves news. Isn’t that like false advertising?
Looks like we need to look back to the Libby Trial Days as an example and post vlogs.
Yes, but we probably have strangled the regulatory agency that should handle that….. aaarrrggghhh.
Can’t claim to be up on current details, but would expect that only the victim can bring a complaint. And then he/she will find that it gets heard by a classic kangaroo court panel. See no evil, hear no evil. That was my experience.
Is livestream live right now?
ETA:
No, it’s not now, definitely. Was for a few minutes, I think.
For people like me who are still nervous about starting a protest, calling the paper or tv is a good way to get one’s feet wet. It is an opportunity to talk about the issue without having a camera in one’s face. Sort of a rehearsal period.
I am such a wimp.
LOL! Yeah, we could start up a Vladimir Vlog!
Not as of 5 minutes ago.
Hey, is Jane okay?
I was just wondering. I know she is busy, crazy busy. I just wanted to make sure she was okay.
Up to people like us to clue others in.
rc, I thought I saw something, maybe upthread, about maybe a related action in Atlanta? Have you heard anything?
I wonder if any of the Remember Building 7 folks will join the OccupyWallStreet?
You don’t have to put one together but if there’s one in your vicinity you can certainly participate. It’s fun. Meet like-minded people. Spreading the word is how these thing grow.
Why wouldn’t she be okay?
I don’t see any sign of anything like that happening, though. What about in St Pete?
I remember. I used to admire that bit of SM/SE research. But Ryan has gone asshat.
Not lately. Very conservative area and St Pete for Peace is doing more education than anything else. Anti-war protests ineffective now since the majority of the country is against the wars. We got our message out but not much we can do about pols who like war.
I just haven’t seen anything posted from her recently (I may have missed something). So I was wondering.
Japan’s ‘Artsy’ Protest Culture
http://the-diplomat.com/a-new-japan/2011/06/13/japans-artsy-protest-culture/
“an eclectic melange of clowns, musicians, and street performers interspersed amongst pedestrians”
Egyptian Activists’ Action Plan: Translated
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/egyptian-activists-action-plan-translated/70388/
“Egyptian activists have been circulating a kind of primer to Friday’s planned protest.”
Digital AlterNatives with a Cause?
http://cis-india.org/digital-natives/blog/dnbook
“asks critical and pertinent questions about theory and practice around ‘digital revolutions’”
Tearing down Wall Street
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/2011/09/20/need-alternative
It’s Gandhi’s “First they ignore you…” We’re still at that point.
She is fine. Just busy.
Yeah. I wish we had a teach-in going on here. I need to start networking and see who is a good speaker and set up some small group workshops or something. I used to do meeting and event planning with my job, surely this wouldn’t be much different.
Gonna be a revolutionary, eh? Good on ya.
I’d like an update on Dan’s trial, the writ of mandamus, etc.
A tuna revolutionary, like Abner.
Did you see the link I left at your place?
I’d better go call that editor.
It’s a protest, an occupation, a march, a dating opportunity?
Oh my gosh, is that creative or what???
Hey, part of what drove the movements in the Sixties and Seventies was the possibility of getting laid (and high).
Abner is a lazy revolutionary, sadly. He spends most of his time snoozing. But I dare anyone *anyone* to open a can within earshot!
This is the new incarnation. And instead of speed dating, it’s speed protesting.
found at the #needsoftheoccupiers hashtag search:
LOL!
Never underestimate the power of (potentially) getting laid, especially for the 20-somethings. Again, they’ve got some brilliant marketing going on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTJH4ZZU_oA&feature=youtu.be
The chat going on next to the livestream is insane. Not one person isn’t flipping and I think about three or four in the chat are provocateurs.
Roughing up a protester. Shame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTJH4ZZU_oA&feature=youtu.be
Your tax dollars at work.
That is another angle showing what happened yesterday.
It moves too fast for me to follow. I was lucky to be about to read about the “Carpool to Wall Street” facebook page.
Anyone have details on the Livestream that just played “from this afternoon”? So people in the last few hours have been arrested?
I missed most of the action yesterday. The police threw the guy off the tarp. Nasty business.
Looks like new footage. One might be that guy you have a photo of.
Not a wimp, just a newbie, darlin’.
Do we have an estimate of how many people are there now?
Not a peep, nor did I see that comment. Got a number?
I’ll take it! Thanks. Anything goin’ on in Atl?
Second that. I thought the trial was recessed for 10 days, and it’s been much more than 10 business days, with nary a peep. Though I did notice that Dan is planning to re-enlist. Good for the Army. And good for us. We need soldiers with that proven level of integrity and leadership.
New article at Guardian-
Occupy Wall Street: the protesters speak
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/sep/21/occupy-wall-street-protests
It is nasty business. Now, I’m not condoning the police conduct but the guy does make a move away from the officer. When he does that, he’s “resisting arrest.” What you do when a cop places a hand on you can determine a lot about how they arrest you.
That’s what FB and other personal networks are for. Even out here in the boonies, I posted some stuff and had old colleagues who’ve retired to the coast, post stuf, and my daughters who live in Chesapeake Bay area and Alabama posted stuff, and one of their friends in Utah posted stuff.
You don’t need the media to know about stuff. You need the media to see how the Village or your local ownership class are responding. A blackout is a serious response. It is sort of category 5 on Gandhi’s “They ignore you” scale. Listen up around town to see if the snide remarks and “jokes” are beginning to be passed by those closest or those echoing the big boys. There’s some snittiness already on Twitter from gray-haired well-dressed ladies and guys in suits and white shirts. Category 1 on the “They make fun of you” scale. The NYPD are at Category 1 on the “They fight you” scale. And folks, as far as I know, are still camped out and winning the space to speak and assemble.
No, I couldn’t find it, might have been somewhere else, but where? If I find it I’ll put it in a comment to you.
I thought the “they” was supposed to refer to the oppressors, not the First Amendment guardians of truth and justice. /s
Would ETA: the two guys arrested there are Marco something and Ryan something.
Management (white shirts-two of them) lead the way. So the rogue cop excuse is out the window. At least at the section level, it is policy.
I know, but he was grabbed from behind by the collar of his shirt! It was a reflex!
Two very good incentives lol.
Don’t forget the tumbrels lol.
Search twitter for #occupyatlanta.
They are really heroes.
I have considered FB just an annoyance, but need to learn to use it to my advantage.
thanks!
pic:
http://yfrog.com/ke11292820j
So far the meme is:
overeducated
unemployed
anti-capitalist
angry
Notice how those label individuals in order to dismiss them. Then pick the individuals to interview who fit the stereotype.
Pretty damn effective framing. Eh what?
OT– 5 p.m. ET prayer vigil planned for Troy Davis at Savannah City Hall
Troy Davis Case: Slideshow
Rev. Al Sharpton against Troy Davis execution (MSNBC, embedded video, Sept. 20, 2011)
British PM and French president receive enthusiastic welcome in Tripoli less than a month after Gaddafi was toppled … “Cameron and Sarkozy meet Libya’s new leaders in Tripoli” (Guardian.Co.Uk, Sept. 15, 2011)
Just consider it as a tool to promote democracy.
I realize the “guillotines!” was kind of dark humor, but there are those out there who will use stuff like that to try to further label the movement as a bunch of “socialist revolutionaries” or whatever.
In order to get support of a really broad mass of people, the activists and what they represent need to seem a better alternative than the country eventually having to resort to bloodshed in an attempt to solve our problems.
Just saying that rhetoric like that will just drive some folks who might be otherwise sympathetic in the other direction.
(And I’m a guy who back in 2008 during the Wall St. meltdown was telling people we should find who was responsible for this and put them against the wall…)
OT–
I can’t find a link, but a couple of days ago I read that the government has filed the writ of mandamus and now Chou’s lawyer is going to file a reply to it.
You have to match your messages to what your friends know of you. And you respond positively even if you disagree with something political they post (agree to disagree). And mix personal, personal interest (mine are economic issues, astronomy, computer geeky stuff, maps, charts (some of which are neat summaries of political content). Comment on sports. “Like” your own teams and music (so it’s not all serious all the time). People you won’t expect it of will start coming out of being a hunkered down progressive and start posting interesting stuff that they’ve found. My friends list has old friends I hung out with up to 55 years ago who are SC GOP Christian voters, old anti-Vietnam war movement musician, work colleagues who talked politics, cousins with whom I share genealogical research. They can see or filter what I post as they see fit.
i’ve got a tool to promote democracy. a pointy tool. just joking!
Hey,
I do not see that as OT! I was asking earlier today @9 if the KeystoneXL protests were going to merge with the OccupyWallStreet.
I get it’s a reflex. I’d probably pull away too if a cop was grabbing on me.
From NYCLU:
Demonstrating in NYC
What to do if stopped by police
Even an app!
Appreciate this update.
That is a
littlelot more subtle than I typically am, and a very good suggestion.My half-brother’s wife found me on FB last year. We hadn’t been in touch since our dad died in 1980.
Not going to report in the blog but I can tell all of you — Spoke with someone with NYCLU today. No one in the occupation has come to them with particular concerns yet so there isn’t much they can do other than continue to hand out “Know Your Rights” guides.
I see we are closing in on 400 comments. I will get another live blog post up and running.
These are (mostly) young people who haven’t been through this before so they may not know what to ask. The important thing is for NYCLU to get the info out and be available post-arrest. (IMO)
Edit: I know you’re young too and the above may sound a little condescending. Didn’t mean it that way.
Posted on the Support #OccupyWallStreet diary
How many people are part of the occupation now?
Cool!
Our favorite twittertroll must feel very clever, indeed:
Hard to say with livestream down, but probably somewhere between 200-500.
You don’t want to go for the FDL record on most comments ever?
lol.
oooo, I think we’d have a ways to go. I’m thinkin’ back to the primaries in 08.
Yeah, I think the FDL hamsters spinning the wheels behind the scene get tired after about 300 comments. Poor lil critters.
We’re getting a nice little collection of helpful stuff there. Feel free to post directly there on some items.
Well, “she” repeats herself. Might be a bot after all.
Yeah, I finally realized that was a subtle hint for me to post it directly there.
There was a picture from yesterday of a protester in suit and tie. The “tie” was a hangman’s noose. Guess twas to make it easier for the NYPD.
Huh.
Kevin, here’s another list:
djjohnso Twitter list #occupywallstreet
Morphing back to my domestic persona.
Thank you Kevin and everyone for this amazing coverage.
Best of evenings and I’ll see you tomorrow,
ohmmmm
FB material (from Cahokia, above)
Looking forward to the coverage.
I only found one person on there worth adding. (saw list promoted earlier)
This person:
http://twitter.com/#!/CallMeGoldie
Also think this person would be a good addition?
http://twitter.com/#!/GioSafari
This guy, too:
http://twitter.com/#!/justinwedes
I’ve un-OT’d my conservative line of comments when I’ve seen any data on demonstrators regarding that subject such as the gentleman for “Free Bradley Manning.”
I’ll keep my eyes peeled …
Entirely possible (from a technical perspective).
See ya later, Om.
That is a good sentiment. We all should!
Good night, ThD. Sure enjoyed your company today, as always.
((YSD))
I’ve noticed a few bots on there.
Yep. Add both of those. GioSafari has a good corny song (with chords btw); he might come up with some other stuff. JustinWedes has been picked up; worth following to see if he’s marked by the NYPD. And what he might say that might draw another response. Extent of Twitter monitoring would be interesting civil liberties issue.
Bye, OmAli.
Justin is one of the core organizers, too. Google him.
Oh, I know.
Aha. Dake mee doo yoor lieder. Some distributed nodes have more functions than others.
Protesters vow to camp near Wall St. indefinitely
CBS News
Protesters vow to continue Wall Street protest indefinitely, sleeping in plaza …
Washington Post
Protesters vow to camp near Wall St. indefinitely
Denver Post
Protesters vow to camp near Wall St. indefinitely
Forbes
Protesters vow to camp near Wall St. indefinitely
San Jose Mercury News
Protesters vow to camp near Wall St. indefinitely
MSN Money
Protesters vow to camp near Wall St. indefinitely
Anchorage Daily News
Protesters vow to continue Wall Street protest indefinitely, sleeping in plaza …
Daily American Online
Protesters vow to camp near Wall St. indefinitely
StarNewsOnline.com
all AP NEW YORK
SlashDot forum on Yahoo email blocking:
Yahoo Blocked Emails about Wall Street Protests
For the tech-y geek-y
New youtube video. (same as the livestream replay.)
At the 1:45 minute mark, a cop starts freaking out and punching people in the face, it appears.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP3xKpJ6Uo0
Knight Foundation:
Twitter, Facebook and Co. — good for teens and the First Amendment?
YAY! I was concerned with what looked like a grab and snatch in view of this report as we have disturbing video footage of G20 style and other paramilitary tactics by the NYPD, and, especially given this is a female minor.
Please consider joining and/or spreading the word about the human rights campaign of the Nobel Women’s Initiative on the International Campaign to Stop Rape & Gender Violence in Conflict.
Make no mistake, her story will be written. Her mother is a writer. Her aunt is a psychologist. This was an ABOMINATION how she was treated. Never saw so much gross incompetence in my life. She is home now, and safe. THANK YOU ALL.
I guess the best way of showing the video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP3xKpJ6Uo0
She may be the @sonyazink that they were looking all over for earlier today.
Hey! Welcome to the Lake.
I bet you’re right.
Totally confirmed. I am a family member. At midnight last night we could not get straight answer from police as to where she was. They would’t even bother lokking. Finally we were told she was at Bellevue. She should have been arraigned last night. Instead she spent the night at Bellevue, then transfered uptown somewhere, then transfered to be arraigned. Totally trumped up charges of resisting arrest. She is home now and resting. Family is lawyered up and ready to rumble.
As athena1 said, welcome!
Key Lines:
A bientot.
Thanks for posting here. Best wishes to all of you. Go rumble.
Another one out.
Seconded.
I guess they have the feathers and rail already.
Legal eagle observers: officer punching starts just after time point 1:43, end point 2:25 after individual led away, eye witness observers identify the individual as “Marco Polangi” (sp alternatives)
Think it’s the same scene recounted here?
https://occupywallst.org/article/arrests-wednesday-sep-21/
Caradona has a rank higher than sergeant. (White shirt)
OT– From MoveOn.Org:
Dear MoveOn.Org, Warren Buffett ain’t no hero as he’s totally tied in with Goldman Sachs (Telegraph.Co.UK, Oct. 21, 2010) and is part of the problem of the greed, corruption and “Death Culture” of the 1%ers. He merely trying to rescue his reputation and run a damage containment program which you are cooperating in.
I’m modelling how a short factual description can be put together (a blog is also a transcript) that helps investigators flag and more quickly collect and review evidence as it’s a time consuming process.
That’s awesome!
I don’t understand this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p29X5vjm5Rc&feature=share
What is dnyc.gov supposed to be? What does the d stand for?
Of course they have to review everything and verify but such documentation of video and audio evidence cuts down the time and cost of clients so doing this sort of thing with the right motivation and understating is a good karma thing.
Following this – Troy Davis’ Scheduled Execution – for the next couple of hours — then I will be back to live blogging Occupy Wall Street.
Actually, I will launch an evening edition of the post, a new post.
Kevin, MayDaze, athena1, mzchief, TarheelDem, and anyone else I’m missing, you guys are awesome.
I’ve been following these liveblogs and their comments for the last 3 days. It’s almost better than twitter!
YESSSS! I’m watching. + 6509 viewers and counting on the live stream, “WATCH: Democracy Now covers Troy Davis execution protests.” State executions? Not in my name!
Hi Linda,
I’m glad to hear everything is okay. Mariel’s arrest and treatment, along with the arrest and treatment of others, is inspiring more to come out or help in some way, so she should be proud.
If Mariel’s still in contact with some people there, you can invite her and anyone else there to participate here. Unfortunately, the discussions on http://occupywallst.org and the chat room in the live feed are full of trolls, and/or undercover police, attacking protesters and stirring up endless arguments. So far we’ve had very few troublemakers pop up, yet quite a lot of discussion as you can see and the other live blogs since this began.
Pic: protesters carrying Troy Davis signs.
http://twitpic.com/6og068
Thanks, Kris.
(Actually, a lot of it is twitter.)
WTF?
Toma La Calle: ACAMPADA DEMOCRACIA REAL PARIS livestream (offline right now)
Robinsage is a spam account. Report her/it as spam so Twitter can remove the account. Every post has #OccupyWallStreet in it followed by sex references and related spam links.
Reported.
Yes, it looks like a robo SPAM porn ad in Japanese. I’ve reported it. How to report SPAM on Twitter.
The bot blew a fuse.
I think Olbermann tweeted he’ll be talking about the protests tonight due to all the requests he’s been getting to cover it.
Turns out it was the same Sonya:
Crikey– this is a state government level “pattern and practice.” There is no “do over” with capital punishment. Riot police dispatched to enforce a state killing is incredibly disturbing. This is a crystal-clarity moment of a piece of what’s wrong in this country. Whatever happened to defending life and its preciousness?
It’s t tell the TV viewers of the local news that the protesters were dangerous and likely to storm the prison. (Amnesty Int’l, anti-death-penalty folks, right). In other words, security theater.
btw, good work on a summary of arrests from the YouTubes.
Tangential– Jane-zilla post up: “Welcome the FDL Membership Engagement Team – They May Be Calling You!” Interested to help out? Please run, not walk, and thank you!
Thank you for coming here and responding to my comment. Mariel’s story IS the story of this whole protest on many levels.
Thank you for confirming facts. The factual events should have never happened to Mariel.
I really do hope the 1st Amendment Center does contact Mariel.
Please let Mariel know she is in our thoughts. She is going to have a powerful speech to give to her peers someday.
(I am not sure if you read any of my other comments…)
Possible stay of execution for Troy Davis. + 28,100 viewers on the DemocracyNow.Org live stream. World leaders in executions: US, China, Iran, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
My good thoughts for Troy Davis and all concerned.
daughter-of-klynn story…
I just read your comment out to her. I noted only one was “suppose to be” a democracy.
In dripping sarcasm d-o-k said, “Is it Iran?”
Executions are a tool of the class warfare of the bankstas and the US leads the pack. Totally unconscionable. We all have an obligation to shut this system down and everything that feeds it. Then we actualize ourselves as the “Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.” Otherwise, what else is this place but a charnel house?
“Dance Me to the End Of Love” – Leonard Cohen
Here’s my understanding from the Democracy Now thread:
The U.S. Supreme Court has issued a reprieve. It’s good until they decide if they should issue a stay. No telling how long the reprieve is for. Scalia voted against a death penalty in Texas recently. It’ll take 5 Supremes to issue a stay.
On the DemocracyNow.Org live stream crawl at the bottom of the screen: 13 arrested for demonstrating at the White House on behalf of Troy Davis (NBC Washington, Sept. 21, 2011).
Thank you. TarheelDem has this also.
Donations for Global Revolution can be given at http://MobileBroadCastnews.Com/Newsroom. Live stream still having technical difficulties but they’re working on it.
Occupy Wall Street Photos 21 September 2011, Day 5
http://cryptome.org/info/occupy-wall-st3/occupy-wall-st3.htm
Big media’s shameful news brownout on the Wall Street protests
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Big-medias-shameful-blackout-on-the-Wall-Street-protests.html
Class war!
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/09/bipartisan-corporatism-2?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/classwar
hmmmm. still no live feed?
mzchief,
I have taken a long stand against the death penalty. My daughter’s observation was noting, that right now, we are not in good company wrt the list of nations you noted, especially as the leader of the pack.
Thanks for the quote. D-O-K appreciated it. So did I.
I’ve always been against it. This particular case has been in the news in my area for many years. It is hard to watch and discuss. All I know is that there are some real sterotypical people in charge of things down there in GA.
De nada. We must first restore ourselves to sanity. Then we will be in the position to help others.
“I will be a hummingbird” – Wangari Maathai
“Occupy Wall Street” Protest Has International Support; Setting Up for Long Haul
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/669889
4 days of rain in the forecast. Hopefully that changes as weather in the northeast at this time of year seems to do quite often.
I think we should put together an essentials list for those considering going down there. I suspect more will try to make it this weekend unless the rain is unbearable.
To start: extra socks (if it rains, will want to change once it stops), umbrella, small towel or several, basic hygiene stuff so you can freshen up in a public restroom, water and high nutrition/protein snack bars (though convenience stores are everywhere, just in case you get pinned in), cleaning wipes (or a rag and an astringent like witch hazel), drawing materials for posters, cardboard…
Risky: laptops, expensive cameras, iPads, basically anything expensive that the police may damage or confiscate.
Eleven Arrested as Chase Bank Protesters Block Traffic at 3rd & University (Seattle)
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/09/21/chase-bank-protesters-block-traffic-at-3rd-and-university
http://www.king5.com/news/local/Protesters-rally-at-Chase-Bank-Seattle-headquarters-130300023.html
Colbert > Daily Show
I think Colbert is further left than Jon Stewart and usually when the DS covers left protests, they side with the reason people are protesting, but join the rest of the MSM in ridiculing people there. JS has said he voted for George HW Bush and still would, just the current Republicans at the presidential level are far off into crazy land. DS’s guests are almost all big-wigs and celebrities, Colbert has all kinds of interesting people on that are usually never on TV.
The northwest activists are far better prepared for civil disobedience actions. NYC is the future of America, totalitarian land where you can party hard, but if you dare protest the people who own the city and country, you have no rights. There are activists in NYC obviously, but if they held workshops and training for disobedience actions, the NYPD would put an end to that real quick, from the outside and inside.
Transcript: Rosanne Barr speaks at Occupy Wall Street protest
via:http://feministing.com/2011/09/21/rosanne-barr-speaks-at-occupy-wall-street-protest/
Completely bizarre, but this company is notorious for inaccurate, comical CGI’s of recent news stories: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqClcue3J5Y
I don’t think the liveblog will or should resume tonight.
Tonight, we mourn the murder of an innocent. Terrible stuff. We can be with our brothers and sisters on WS here in the comments, but they are also mourning.
Olbermann on Current:
http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/will-bunch-author-of-the-backlash-on-mainstream-medias-failure-to-cover-wall-street-protests
Rain (yay!) woke me up way too early.
A little update:
For the many sleep-deprived souls:
I can relate. (going back to bed soon).
They were raising money last night to return to the occupation.
Makes me ask the question: Are there any city New Yorkers in #OccupyWallStreet, its citizen journalism, or its support?
Here we have NC, TN, GA, SC, IN, and other states represented in FDL’s diary.
Just a morning quandary.
If I understand your question, yes, appears to me from the tweets that quite a few of the occupiers are actually from NYC. That’s why IMO the number at the park overnight is not really indicative of the level of support.
Edit: As far as FDL, we’re everywhere. I’m in OK.
Disappointing: spreading the “overeducated, unemployed, angry, and unfocused” meme
Shows how far even the “progressive” wing of the Village is from what’s going on. They talked about disconnection, but neither of them bothered to go out to talk to the people themselves. And mostly they made excuses for other members of the Village.
CurrentTV started out trying to tap the idea of citizen journalism. Where is it, Al?
I’m OK too now that I’ve had my coffee.
Heh. Haven’t had mine yet.
This is what I discovered about how Al Gore fits into the big financial scheme of things (#48 documents multiple links to citations to “Al Gore: Obama is Listening to Big Polluters Instead of Science” by Jon Walker, Sept. 7, 2011), TarheelDem, so consider the source.
Apparently from the All tweets someone thinks that there is a brainstorm of “our one demand” going on. And it has the nay-sayers baffled and trying to spread the “unfocused” meme.
MayDaze @ 489: Virtual coffee, bagels, lox and cream cheese for everyone! I’ve put the actual pot on.
You thought the son of a Senator who became Vice President isn’t connected?
Ditto
Dang, I responded to a comment from yesterday morning because refresh is not scrolling to the bottom of 500 comments (more or less). More coffee.
Actually start with 26 in that thread and hit the rest of the packages (links and FDL article cross-links) I delivered.
TarheelDem @ 493: The evidence is what removes all doubt for me.
LOL So virtual coffee will make me virtually awake?
Edit: No problem, I made some of the real stuff. Plenty, in fact.
CNET is following Anonymous:
Anonymous planning Day of Vengeance on September 24
h/t AACina
Just a reminder of why we are here. I don’t know how much more we can hunker down. Welcome to 1931 with no FDR on the horizon.
Had to stifle a LOL at Kevin’s latest post. eCAHN is trying to get Rafe to write a diary.
Well you did get the benefit of my friendly sentiments plus the joke that came along for the ride.
Yeah, I’m drinking the real stuff too.
Nothing on twitter to indicate any march this morning. Lots of tweets but very little actually going on, apparently.
NWS predicts rain all week, hope it doesn’t dampen their spirits.
“A Message From Occupied Wall Street (Day Five)” (OccupyWallSt.Org. Sept. 22, 2011, 07:51:42 UTC)
Separating the workers from management. Brilliant.
Yeah, they’ve been pretty smart. But I don’t think Yasmine gets it.
Stephen Colbert: #OccupyWallStreet
A nice comedic sandwich. The good stuff is in the middle. Cutting against the media narrative (what media is covering it).
Yasmine definitely doesn’t get it.
An interesting approach, listing a series of “one demands.”
OT– “Noda vows to raise nuke safety to highest level” (NHK.Or.Jp, Sept. 22, 2011)
“Noda, Lee work toward Japan-S.Korea EPA talks” (NHK.Or.Jp, Sept. 22, 2011)
The Colbert piece will go over a lot of folks’ heads too.
Restoring democracy and the equal justice under the law is our one demand. Really it is.
http://thenailthatsticksup.com/2011/09/20/we-are-here-to-kill-war-interview-with-occupy-wall-street-protester/
We are now getting concern trolling:
From previous posts, this is not snark.
I just like the strategy of not getting bogged down, tied down to one concept. Unfocused but crystal clear.
Exciting! Wasn’t there a sick cat involved in @Korgasms’s not going back? I hope that kitteh makes it to the vet.
I love the Occu-pies pizza name.
Perhaps Matt Taibbi could come and speak to the crowd about the Great Vampire Squid GS while the crowd eats Occu-pies.
Anyone watch Nova last night? It would be good for someone to pull that broadcast apart. “Bubbles” just happen? Really?
Just stating “crystal clear”. I agree that the presentation as “our one demand” gets out of the comeback about getting specific. It also states it as a way that involves and enlists different constituencies. And by constituencies, I don’t mean single-issue folks. I mean the folks who are actually touched on the particular point being itemized.
This is one that affects everyone in the park:
The demands are not some abstract “cause”.
Topless girls could help draw out more 20-somethings guys to the square. Occupiers gone wild. Anyway, it ought to be seen as a feminist issue. Arresting a bare breasted protesting woman is not acceptable. Just one more issue to fight against, IMO.
You are talking about economic bubbles?
Yep. Bubbles just happen. And they are predictable. Which is why you need regulation to prevent them. Unregulated markets create bubbles and busts.
I was thinking about Matt Taibbi recently too. His work fits well with the occupation. Kevin mentioned trying to get peeps to read from Bernie Sanders’ address to congress out on the square…I thought reading anything by Matt Taibbi would be pretty terrific.
Committees can write:
OT– United States “Expanding Network of Drone Bases To Hit Somalia, Yemen” (IPSNet.Net, Sept. 21, 2011)
She did have a sick cat, and a pretty bad job that was holding her back IIRC. No update about either that I caught. They did have some extra money so maybe the cat will get to the vet.
From DailyKos (Ministry of Truth), who is liveblogging days from Liberty Plaza.
#OccupyWallStreet Liveblog: WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU PEOPLE DONE?!?!?
LOL That’s great!
On a more somber note, Sonya was arrested yesterday apparently just for being topless. (They will probably come up with something else to charge her with.)
Save the Whales, eh? That could have been updated, like, 20 years. Was that guy seriously trying to fit in or mocking?
Now Kevin has chimed in and offered to let Rafe do a guest post on why Brewer’s execution deserves as much attention as Troy Davis’.
Hey,
Forgot to put a snark tag on that comment. I know they happen.
The special is worth watching. In my estimation it deified derivatives.
It’s titled, Mind over Money.
Had a real opportunity to make a bigger point about the need for regulation. Muffed it.
http://trendsmap.com/topic/%23occupywallstreet
http://www.twazzup.com/?q=%23occupywallstreet
The US shouldn’t be doing any executions.
Definitely mocking. To the right, “Save [any living thing]” is to be mocked.
Yes, I saw that. She was treated very badly. Not okay.
I agree, of course. I just find it amusing that they’re trying to get the troll to do a post.
‘Cept Save the Millionaires. Or maybe Save the Fundamentalist Christians.
Fetuses. How could you forget fetuses?
After they’re born though, screw ‘em, they’re fair game (unless rich).
David Mervine has been collecting videos and websites related to #OccupyWallStreet.
The Time Has Always Been Now
Exactly.
I believe that would be in Athens, not Atlanta.
British Police Demand Riot Footage From Media
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/22/bbc-itn-sky-news-riots?CMP=twt_gu
Water dripping on a stone.
Another rumor, FWIW:
Local economy is not limited to urban gardens.
Calling all Grandparents
Great video.
IMO she’s the best reporter I’ve seen there.
The plot thickens:
Okay. That is quite the news bit.
Yeah, they want to make sure they can track everyone.
Or not:
This is one of the problems with twitter, it’s not clear exactly what happened. Did they find another source, or was the original tweet wrong?
Agreed. The best tweets come with a link to detailed information. Of course, that’s impossible when livetweeting events.
So…the occupiers are trying to buy untraceable prepaid phones? I don’t imagine that is endearing to DHS or NYPD.
Live stream back … Got some batteries. Good. Sounds like wind across the microphone which tends to disrupt the audio stream.
*starting to really worry about the hamsters* Is Kevin still upstairs on the Troy Davis threads?
No, I think he’s getting a new post together now. JMO.
Edit: the hamsters can take it, they’re stout little fellas.
FWIW, somebody’s statement of the “Official Demands”. I’m not sure that the one IP address-one vote idea makes it linked to people although it’s a technological attempt to prevent vote-stuffing in an online poll.
There are some common themes emerging however.
Free donuts for NYPD! (From live chat) These guys are smart marketers.
She has posted a link to the police scanner frequency, if anyone’s interested. This seems to make it moot, though.
More well spent tax dollars at work./s
Kevin has the new post up. (Hamsters saved!)