(photo: Collin David Anderson )Over the past ten days, hundreds of people have occupied Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan in New York as part of Occupy Wall Street. Citizens have faced down a city that has fortified Wall Street with blockades so corporate criminals responsible for the economic collapse in 2008 can avoid confrontations with angry, passionate Americans.
Citizens have camped out and held daily marches in the face of a massive police presence, which has sometimes been very intimidating as individuals have been arbitrarily picked off and arrested. And last weekend, the police corralled them into an area near Union Square and proceeded to make a number of violent arrests; eighty to one hundred were arrested on Saturday.
The organizers, who pride themselves in being “leaderless,” have sought to bring together a diverse crowd of various political persuasions. They have rallied behind the slogan, “We are the 99%,” to show they will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the top 1% in America. They have rallied against banks that engage in tax dodging while at the same time foreclosing on Americans’ homes and charging exorbitant interest rates on student loans putting young citizens in deep debt. They are rising up against increased unemployment and war against the poor in America. And they have used what is known as the General Assembly process to make decisions, which democratically gives all people present an opportunity to influence the continued organization of Occupy Wall Street.
Traditional media have characterized the plurality of voices and the number of issues the occupation is seeking to challenge as a weakness. Establishment media has been openly condescending. Ginia Bellafante’s report in the New York Times has generated significant attention for her focus on the fact that some “half-naked woman” who looks like Joni Mitchell to her is the leader of this movement of “rightly frustrated young people.” Bellafante accuses the protesters of lacking “cohesion” and “pantomiming progressivism rather than practice it knowledgeably.” NPR reiterated NYT’s focus on the “scattered nature of the movement” in its coverage of the occupation (and tellingly used a photo of a man holding a sign that reads “Satan Controls Wall St”). Local press have treated the occupiers as if they are a tribe or a group of nomads focusing on occupiers’ behavior instead of trying to understand the real reason why people are in the park.
Liberals have shown scorn, too, suggesting the occupation is not a “Main Street production” or that the protesters aren’t dressed properly and should wear suits cause the civil rights movement would not have won if they hadn’t worn decent clothing.
(photo: David Shankbone )The latest show of contempt from a liberal comes from Mother Jones magazine. Lauren Ellis claims that the action, which “says it stands for the 99 percent of us,” lacks traction. She outlines why she thinks Zuccotti Park isn’t America’s Tahrir Square. She chastises them for failing to have one demand. She claims without a unified message police brutality has stolen the spotlight. She suggests the presence of members of Anonymous is holding the organizers back writing, “It’s hard to be taken seriously as accountability-seeking populists when you’re donning Guy Fawkes masks.” And, she concludes as a result of failing to get a cross-section of America to come out in the streets, this movement has been for “dreamers,” not “middle class American trying to make ends meet.”
First off, nobody in the last week can claim to be reporting on Occupy Wall Street and genuinely claim it isn’t gaining traction. Ellis conveniently leaves out the fact that Occupy Wall Street is inspiring other cities to get organized and hold similar assemblies/occupations. Second, if the protesters did have one demand, does Ellis really think that would improve media coverage? Wouldn’t pundits then be casting doubt on whether the one demand was the appropriate singular demand to be making? Third, so-called members of Anonymous are citizens like Ellis and have a right to participate in the protest. It is elitist for Ellis to suggest Occupy Wall Street should not be all-inclusive. And, finally, there is no evidence that just “dreamers” are getting involved. A union at the City University of New York, the Industrial Workers of the World, construction workers, 9/11 responders and now a postal workers and teachers union have shown interest in the occupation.
The Middle Needs to Rise Up
Nothing captures the disapproval the establishment has for the people in Zuccotti Park like the conversation on “Real Time with Bill Maher” last Friday. Center-right establishment pundit John Avlon had nothing but a smug grin and atrocious centrist political talking points for musician Tom Morello and filmmaker Michael Moore. He and former Democratic congresswoman Jane Harman provided an example for why Americans are so frustrated with American politics:
Maher: You have to wonder what will make people rise up?
Avlon: I’ve been there. It’s a couple hundred [minimizing what is going on with a smirk]
Harman: The people in the political middle rise up and demand that people in Congress get some work done. Where are they?
Moore: How would you have them rise up? Write a letter to the editor?
Harman: No. They have a vote…
Moore: Uh-huh. And who do they vote for? Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dummer…
Harman: No, I think there are a lot of good people in Congress but it is a broken place.
Maher: If you mean like centrist Democrats, I think they’re the problem. Like the Democrats have 53 senators… Like forty of them are good but it’s people like Mary Landrieu—Jim Webb came out against Obama’s taxing the millionaires plan. It’s those centrist Democrats who are really corporatist Democrats, who work with the Republicans—That’s what cockblocks everything in this country.
Avlon shakes his head – couldn’t be more wrong he says
Harman: Working together is what Congress used to always be. We can disagree with each other but to get something done you have to work together…
Maher: Who works together? It’s those Max Baucus Democrats with the Republicans. That’s who works together.
Morello attempted to set people like Avlon and Harman straight:
Morello: …A lot of people who put [Obama] in office put [Obama] in office to fight for them—to fight against the Tea Party, to fight against this bullshit in Congress, to fight against the sonsofbitches who are attacking the working class and the poor in this country. And he hasn’t done any of that [Avlon wags finger at Morello, shakes head “no.”]
At the same time, I’m not waiting for him. I’m with the people in Madison. I’m with the people occupying Wall Street. That’s what my music is about. And I know Michael knows this too – when progressive, radical or even revolutionary changes happen, it’s always come from below. When women got the right to vote, when lunch counters were desegregated, it was people you do not read about in history books who stood up in their time for what they believed in.
Avlon: But, Tom, all these changes happen when good ideas are adopted by reformers. Politics is really not divided between left and right. It’s radicals and reactionaries and reformers and that’s why the center matters. We got a divided government. The only way you can get anything passed is if you try to reason together. That’s the core idea of our government. It’s broken down. The hyper-partisanship, the polarization of the two parties, that’s hurting our country because it’s stopping us from solving…
Avlon is an example of why many Americans do not support Occupy Wall Street. They understand that Occupy Wall Street wants to have an impact on the system and force the system to respond to the occupation’s demands, but they see protesters do not want to work within the system and lobby members of Congress and sign petitions and find out what piecemeal reforms representatives and senators think they can manage to deliver without jeopardizing their re-election campaigns. They are afraid of people power or “too much democracy.”
Managers of Democracy First, Citizens After
(photo: Screen shot of “Real Time with Bill Maher” )People like Avlon and Harman fear people power or acts of rebellion because they choose to be managers of democracy rather than citizens. And, actually, media and the elites aren’t the only ones who think like this. Numerous politically engaged Americans operate like managers of democracy in America because they believe “purism” on issues will create gridlock and prevent anything from being done. They despise making urgent demands of power because they believe Washington is only and has only ever been capable of incremental reform. To them, making demands and refusing to budge places an unacceptable burden on President Obama and legislators.
Demonstrations are demeaned because everything is supposed to come back to the political process. The truth is, corporate executives and business managers are and have been constantly protesting. They just do it in the halls of power instead of in public squares.
Corporate executives, business managers and free market ideologues have worked to avert any changes to the status quo. They have aggressively turned opportunities for change into chances to leverage power over government so they can reap huge financial or monetary advantages in the long run; for example, the watered-down financial and health reform bills.
The Myth of the American Dream
Compounding the contempt for grassroots struggle in America is the unwavering confidence in the myth known as the American Dream. The American Dream rests upon the idea that all Americans can prosper if they try hard enough. In its most perverted form, it cons Americans into believing they could not only prosper but be rich one day. This was discussed on “Real Time w/ Bill Maher” Friday night too.
MAHER: Do [Americans] really think everyone can be rich? How can that really work? Who would do the things for rich people that allow them to be rich people if we are all rich?
MOORE: 400 Americans have more wealth than 150 million combined
HARMAN: I don’t think we can all be rich. I agree with that. But look at who is rich and how young people who are colossally inventive can become the billionaires?
MAHER: So anecdotal.
HARMAN: Have polices that promote innovation and enterprise in this country.
AVLON: This is part of the American character. Right, this is the idea. It’s not just anecdotal. It’s Google. It’s the guys behind Google. There’s dozens and dozens and hundreds — This is the story of America. There are two things going on here. One, eighty percent of Americans always think they are middle class and that’s a good thing. The problem is we have seen the middle class get squeezed for around four decades now. And the average CEO’s salary is around $9.6 million while the average family of four still makes 50 [thousand?] …
Avlon concludes, “You can’t dismiss the idea of the American Dream because people live it every day and that’s what animates our country.” But, as Moore responded, “That dream is a nightmare for most people” these days.
Progressive leader Van Jones has kickstarted a movement called Rebuilding the American Dream. The movement aims to stand up to right wing attacks on unions and the middle class in America. It is a feel good movement and also politically safe. It gives upset Americans the opportunity to get involved in a well-organized advocacy venture that is likely to work with power. The more people who get involved in advocating for changes, the more people who elect representatives in city, state and federal government, the more likely America is to see the American Dream “restored.”
No person participating in Occupy Wall Street will talk about some mythical American Dream that has been held over Americans to pacify them. They understand this country has owners and like comedian George Carlin said there is a club and they “ain’t in it.” They are out planting the seeds of rebellion and for many it is either annoying because they think it will divert and suck off too much energy and fail or, worse, lead to a confrontation that sparks riots.
They Fear Encouraging Occupy Wall Street Will Lead to Riots
Here is how CNBC covered the history of “civil unrest” or protest in America earlier this year:
On January 25, 2011, the people of Egypt took to the streets in unprecedented numbers to protest the government of President Hosni Mubarak, who has kept the nation under a state of emergency for three decades. The riots have continued unabated into the month of February, and it’s anybody’s guess when the disorder will end.
The United States has endured its share of civil unrest as well. Some riots have been carefully planned in advance to protest government policies, and some have begun spontaneously in communities plagued by poverty and unemployment. But while riots start for many different reasons, they usually end the same way, with mass arrests, loss of life and damage to public and private property.
(photo: David Shankbone )To establishment media and the power elite, Occupy Wall Street can only be ineffective or destructive. CNBC has nothing but scorn for the Arab Spring. CNBC and other media organizations care little about the “moral imperative to fight,” as writer and journalist Chris Hedges puts it. They do not see the consciousness of America awakening as a positive development because it will put additional pressure on government. They see Occupy Wall Street as a movement exacerbating political polarization in America, which is why they advocate for mobilizing people in “the middle.” They want to see disgruntled Americans demobilize and channel their energy into more controlled arenas like electoral politics.
“Power Elite Will Define Whatever You Do as Failure”
Hedges has cautioned occupiers, “The power elite will define whatever you do as failure.” The future of Occupy Wall Street and any future act of rebellion or resistance to economic, political and social injustice depend on understanding this truth.
The growing threat to power Occupy Wall Street poses does not rest upon its critique of the financial system or its ability to show the world how the security state of America squelches dissent. It lies in its ability to convince Americans that people have the power, that if they abandon fear and cynicism and step out into the streets they will find community and hope.
The power of Occupy Wall Street is, as Hedges also said, the movement’s ability to “break the kind of atomization or isolation that enables fear.” It is the ability “to endure frightening situations and know someone is standing next to you” and be around people, who have “empathy toward you,” that will create the kind of rebellion in America necessary to challenge the power of Wall Street and other corporate and special interests putting not just this country but the entire planet at risk.
Criticism of Occupy Wall Street is just a way for establishment media, the power elite and those who believe in their views to defend their ideology on how politics is supposed to work. It is their way of affirming their conviction that at some point the children need to leave the streets and the grown-ups must be allowed to work in peace. It is also part of the culture; expressing support for “hippies” or a “plurality of voices” preaching against capitalism will not win friends and influence people in the Beltway. And so, they will make criticisms whether there is evidence to support what is said or written.
(photo: David Shankbone )So, move forward and let the elites and establishment media come to the realization that the people outnumber them and they are on the wrong side of history. Instead, remember the words of the late people’s historian Howard Zinn:
What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something. If we remember those times and places—and there are so many—where people have behaved magnificently, this gives us the energy to act, and at least the possibility of sending this spinning top of a world in a different direction.
And if we do act, in however small a way, we don’t have to wait for some grand utopian future.
The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory.



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Great piece, Kevin. I would also add that in addition to “managing democracy,” the PTB believe they have an absolute right to manage markets as well. This violates their own stated ideology about the necessary freedom of markets, and explains why the markets have been relentlessly manipulated rather than allowed to follow their own natural healing process. Eventually, all cognitive dissonances must be resolved in favor of reality and rationality.
What a great article, Kevin!
Excellent analysis of the particulars Kevin.
Especially this of mistaking a tactic for a principle.
This tactic worked for the civil rights movement because it had credibility. The people who participated in the civil rights movement generally did get dressed up to go to church and the framing of the protest, which marched out of churches as staging areas was that the protest was an active form of prayer.
And it worked for the “get clean for Gene” crowd as well, who were middle class college kids aspiring to be a suit.
And it has worked within the context of #occupywallstreet. The challenge to the 1% to participate in the dialog was issued by a local resident, a guy who looks comfortable in a white shirt and tie. But the bulk of Americans don’t dress like that anymore, even at work, unless there is a formal dress code. For most Americans in 2011, dressing like the 1950s and 1960s looks out of place because most folks no longer can afford suits, white shirts, and ties that look “sharp”. Even those folks who are required by dress codes to do so are often making a huge sacrifice just to keep their jobs.
On the American Dream. I don’t think we need to declare the term dead. But it needs new content, something beyond a consumerist vision. I notice that the populist formula for Democrats always begins with “people who worked hard and played by the rules”. And that has traction for a whole lot of people. It’s the other half of that social contract that needs to be examined as well as the impunity of the 1%.
The fact is that those who own the media (a mere 4 or five corporate persons )
,who own both parties in our so called democracy,
control the vast majority of wealth globally,
for whose benefit all of Central and South America’s democracies were overthrown in this hemisphere ,
including Chile’s on 911 1973 (oh did no one remember to mention that ),
as well as Iran’s (Anglo Iranian Oil company, BP ) and others all over the third world,
Have established corporations which they control whose very existence is predicated on one legal purpose , to pursue as much profit for the stockholders as possible .
Jane Harmon’s last campaign was funded 92% from outside her district , Who is she actually representing when her election is impossible without funds from outside her own constituency ?
It isn’t her constituents , Take a look at her top donors .
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2010&cid=N00006750&type=I
Or maybe a whole new American Dream alltogether; a revolution in democractic thinking where the masses no longer wait for elites to tell us what to support and how to protest and when. Where the 99% no longer await permission from on high to really believe in their own majority opinion.
Well said, Kevin.
A revolution in democratic think where ordinary citizens (“masses” only exist in the eyes of the institutions trying to spook the herd) no longer wait for elites to tell us what we want. What our “American Dream” is. What our consensual collective “American Dream” is.
That is, I do think you are right.
Someone on Twitter suggested that the parents of the demonstrators should have to pay for the damage and the cost to the city for the police. Another person suggested that they bathe. Others were angry because they were going to work and why don’t those bum demonstrators get a job. So many assumptions, so little time.
And then there’re the liberals. Poster child: Susan Sarandon.
Yes, dismantle the myth entirely. Let’s get to reality and how things are. Maybe the American Dream is that I will have the same economic equality and justice as those at the top. That is worth dreaming about.
Maybe we should dream, as Michael Moore said, that we live one day in a society where the richest 400 Americans stop stealing wealth from Americans.
Well done Kevin.
With those attitudes they prove themselves to be just another part of the “Managers of Democracy First, Citizens After.” The rentier class is petrified of direct democracy.
As well they should be!
Aside from the ruling class’s fear of direct democracy, experience thus far is that direct democracy is hard to scale up to deal with decisions of a regional, national, or global scale. This is the point at which all direct democracy movements have either failed or been seized by a dictator.
Case-in-point: “Protester allegedly arrested for filming ‘Occupy Wall Street’” (RawStory.Com, Sept. 26, 2011)
Kevin: is this today’s official OWS diary? Reluctant to post updates until a new one shows up.
Nevermind, new LB just posted: http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2011/09/27/live-blog-of-occupywallstreet-day-eleven-union-interest-is-increasing/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zokuga/6189761572/
There’s a decent case to be made for having SOME complex and important decisions made by enlightened leaders. But the current balance is so clearly way out of whack, wrongly tilted away from giving a decent say to the ordinary people.
Illustrates my point about dress as a tactic needing to be authentic.
Has the general assembly been able to enlist the support of airline unions?
About this:
I just want to comment that this false notion must be being pimped by some thinktank somewhere, because asshole pundits like Friedman have been echoing it relentlessly.
On the bright side, the attempted meme appears to be DOA.
It’s somewhat of a “strong node” communications problem. The aggregating nodes always gain power by virtue of their position in the network. How do you check this natural tendency. This is an issue that has been recognized for a quarter century even among facilitators who work for corporate clients. Separating process roles from political goals is continuing issue for facilitators (corporate clients definitely have political goals and often contradictory ones, given the nature of the division of labor).
What is impressive about the facilitation that I’ve seen in the general assembly livestream is the facilitators and even some of the people guarding the integrity and openness of the process.
That might be why they’re there, but I don’t know for sure.
The problem with Avlon’s analysis is the assumption that the center is fixed. The problem is that the parties have destroyed what integrity of the electoral process that once allowed people to tolerate its compromises. There is no center because the political processes of the US government are almost entirely separated from the popular will. Consent is not longer manufactured; it no longer matters inside DC.
Be interesting to see if they can penetrate the police perimeter surrounding the NYSE.
It’s not just the establishment media, unless you include decades old liberal magazines/news orgs. Article in today’s Mother Jones rips the protest on all the usual:
1. No one demand.
- Fair enough, but again, has MJ and other news organizations applied this same standard to protests from those on the right? I’m sure MJ has written about the Tea Party, highly doubtful not having a single, one sentence for their protest isn’t part of their criticism.
2. Police vs protesters.
- Is this the protesters fault? This protest has been unusually good at not treating cops as “pigs”. I remember how bogged down the anti-globalization protects got with focusing on the police and generally having a “ef them all” attitude. So, if the police attack protesters, the media covers that, and the protesters understandably do as well, how is this the protesters fault? Are they supposed to pretend nothing happened, the police aren’t harassing, smothering them?
3. Anonymous is ruining it with their goofy masks and retribution against those who harm the public and face no justice.
- “Anonymous” is doing far more to help spark Americans to fight back right now than Mother Jones magazine is. Not everyone can be there and the most powerful that Anonymous tends to target, though it’s not a hierarchical group with a central purpose, are those who do not face any justice. Without justice, they will continue to hurt people and suppress democracy, whether in the US, Syria, or anywhere.
4. All the “usual suspects” there.
- The author describes the usual suspects to conveniently include the people who are not the usual suspects. Do they seriously think people who work on Wall Street or similar positions made themselves prominent supporters of the most similar protest movement in recent times, the anti-globalization movement?
Yes, young people who are not tied down to working 50+ hours a week to survive in NYC are going to have more time to participate. Yes, scruffier people are more likely to participate than well off, well dressed ones as the latter have it made and from their perspective, that life couldn’t be better except if more like them were around (and that would be the case if the wealth inequality wasn’t so high in the US, see western and northern Europe).
That said, if you look at the video and photos, the crowd is extremely diverse. When this charge is made, I think the reporter hasn’t been there or had their mind made up before attending and only focusing on those that fit.
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/09/occupy-wall-street
Sort of along the same lines…
The “center” for the politicians has NOTHING to do with what center or compromise would look like wrt the people. EVEN the TEA PARTIERS want to tax the millionaires and billionaires more and have some sort of “free” national health service.
Which working class are these persnickety leftists working in support of? Just the ones without beards or piercings or tatoos? They need to see who works these days.
Not the unemployed?
Not the homeless?
Only the folks with clothes bought from LandsEnd, the Gap, or REI?
I never thought I would use the slur “latte-sipping” for folks at Mother Jones, but….sheesh.
Yep. “Get the government out of my Medicare!”
Um, we already have the dictator complete with death squads and drones.
My comment was made in the general societal sense, not directed specifically at the OWS peopel. I think they are doing great.
Geov Parrish has an excellent frontpage diary at Booman Tribune:
A History Lesson
It is important not to minimize results. Or to play for recognition in the history books instead of results in history.
And you never can predict who will show up on your side and who won’t.
Mine was addressed to the technical problem that the general assemblies will face if they are successful in awakening the sleeping giant. I understood your comment as being about general society.
Excellent takedown kevin, I expected the reactionary response from the Right but was somewhat surprised by the paternalistic drivel from Liberals.
OccupyWallStreet.org’s response to the media.
Futurama – Hippie
Same old. Same old.
Yes, see the No Labels organization.
“affluent Liberals”
There, I corrected it for you.
I hit on this Mother Jones post in my article. I think Mother Jones does want to be more a part of the establishment and less radical.
The Chicagoist on OccupyChicago:
We Belong Here
Way to go “No Labels”. Marginalizing yourself with a label.
And I understood where you were going, and agree.
Occupy Chicago: YouTube Channel
Getting more organized at Occupy Chicago
-pHinkasaurus 30 mins 4 secs ago Twitter
Danny Schechter: Behind the Scenes of #OccupyWallStreet
Edit for Danny:
…for the last week and a half…
I apologize Kevin. I wrote my piece before reading all of yours. I was so upset that sloppy smear article was published in a supposed left magazine. I think you’re correct. If they aimed for a grassroots left perspective, they wouldn’t get the money or subscribers they get now. Who has the money to sustain their magazine on the left? Wealthy Democratic Party supporting “liberals”.
If the editor(s) thought such a smear job was out of line, it wouldn’t have been published in its current form. They approved of it. If publishing articles like this does not reflect the attitude of the subscribers/donors who bring in the most revenue for the magazine, they’ll publish a correction or apology. We’ll see.
From some postings on non-political sites, my conclusion is that “occupy wallstreet” is far from it. Far more people are in the street for lunch hour than are protesting. People that live in the area are barely aware that there are protesters and would’nt even be inconvenienced at all were it not for the cops barricading stuff off in case the protest actually does get bigger than a union rally. Locals say it isn’t being covered simply because it is too small to cover. And, it isn’t considered a serious protest by the locals because it is mostly young people that seem to be well-to-do idealists because almost everyone has a Droid or an Iphone.
Before I go join Day 11 for a little while, I wanted to read this piece and the comments. Excellent, thank you. I like that you ended it with Chris Hedges remarks, who definitely gets it, and Howard Zinn’s immortal words.
I don’t know how they fund themselves. But since I got to work for The Nation as an intern for 5 months this year, I will say the editors and content in The Nation is closer to the kind of content that you find in a radical magazine. Mother Jones is often pretty weak. What they did with the Sarah Palin emails was god awful.
What?
Always remember Zinn. Whenever covering people power, you have to quote Zinn.
Well, I have to point out the obvious point that people who have a job are in the buildings, working. So, that leaves the young and unemployed to get out into the streets.
As to your reading non-political sites for political information, I don’t know what to say.
I guess, what Kevin asked. Huh?
Back in the Sixties, they used to tell us we had to “work within the system” by which they meant “get co-opted by the system so we can control you.” So far it appears that the occupiers have refused to be co-opted. This of course greatly frustrates the PTB. I’ve always said the louder the PTB scream, the more it means you’re getting to them.
Proud to be a DFH back in the day, and proud to still be one now!
Wonderful piece.
Somebody noticed to make the NYPD hit the streets….matter of POV, I guess. Sounds like you’re saying get off my lawn, imho.
A lot of liberals and progressives are criticizing Occupy Wall Street, and perhaps it’s worthwhile to listen to their criticisms and consider them carefully. Maybe Occupy Wall Street and those who support it can benefit from these constructive criticisms and use them to help improve the action.
I say this as someone who has sent two pizzas to the protesters from Liberato’s. I don’t think reflexive defensiveness is a useful posture. Given the validity of the cause, the fact that there are apparently only a few hundred people there suggests that maybe it could be done better somehow.
I waited seven or eight days to respond so it is impossible to characterize this post as “reflexive defensiveness.” I thought long and hard about what I say here.
You do what you can, when you can. If you wait for the exact perfect conditions, it will never happen. I think they’re doing a great job.
The Arab Spring demonstrations have made public assembly a viable political tool for creating solutions such as the assembly government of occupy wall Street. Very creative and smart. This outside the system approach to criticism of the lopsided system the “American Dream’ has become is effective communication. It is also busting police brutality and addressing other concerns in an easy to understand way. All the bobble head stuff is just attempt to diffuse. All the smart kids with weak prospects may get it going across the country as they confront what is wrong with the system. Very nicely pulled off.
They haven’t even been given the chance to be co-opted. The unemployment is too high and the job choices they may have if one opens up are primarily in service and retail.
We are the 99% and we’re tired of corrupt politics.
OK, that’s a message I can get behind!
The best way for them to voice their criticisms is on the ground. They can’t force the people there to bend to their will by writing an article. Many of these magazines have headquarters or offices in NYC, the rest are about 3-4 hours away in DC. Same for any of us. I have some ideas of what I think would help or would work better, but I can’t condemn the whole thing because they aren’t doing what I think.
To be honest, I imagine some of the soft-left media and pundits may be worried about this as they have relations with the Democratic party, and believe the party most win as, in their eyes, it is the best and only solution to our problems. If Bush/McCain were president, I think their attitude would be different as they could tie in the energy with trying to elect a Democrats. /speculation
Many excellent points, Kevin. I just want to add something about that bullshit Mother Jones article: it has often been the case that reporting about protests end up focusing on the police crackdown. When Bull Connor turned on the fire-hoses, and let loose the police dogs, it got people’s attention right quick. This isn’t something to be feared, it is a natural part of non-violent action.
Feed it and it will grow! Good healthy dissent that won’t happen in the halls the Capital or statehouses except like the protests in Wisconsin.
Yeah, I don’t think it would be a problem if this was just about the police. Then it is, why aren’t we allowed to protest Wall Street in America? Why can’t we take on this bastion of greed and corruption?
The NYPD are definitely not the target of the protests though and any police brutality is incidental and the protesters aren’t about to challenge the police. They have made it clear that they think police are part of the 99%, which is true.
Occupy Wall Street is still in the park thanks to NYPD.
what is being protested is what has always been the situation. I could post cartoons from 1912 that show repubs and dems holding bags of bank cash and asking which one is more likely to snow the people. I could post stories how govt colluded with railway barons to violently put down strikes. how the media covered strikers as violent and out of control.
We are at a crossroads and the people are slowly waking up to the illusion that has been shoved down their throats. Those in power are nervous but think as they have done before they will come out on top and win. But this time the people see that the power behind the the throne is the criminal monetary system that enslaves us through taxes, wars, and our need to beg for money to do x, y, z at terms that keep us further enslaved. I wish I could find the quote, will look, but a wise man said real change will come when the people wake up and realize that the only fight, the one fight is with the bankers. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors
Kevin, I really appreciate how well you made your points without boiling over. I could not do that right now. I’m disgusted beyond having any desire to ever try to put up with the likes of that shill on Bill’s show and the despicable Jane Harmon. Also, let’s put a name to who wrote that stupid article about attire. It was Oliver Willis. The guy is a fraud and a clown. I don’t include him in any way whatsoever as a liberal in any real sense of the definition.
Here is a link to a blog post putting the laugh to Oliver Willis’ do-nothing clown show of an article:
http://breakingbrown.com/2011/09/fashion-vs-freedom-brown-blogger-oliver-willis-mocks-occupy-wall-st-protesters-for-not-dressing-better/
How much would I like to see , every time a politician of any ilk, goes on tv for any reason, that his/her funding statistics are posted either running under them or beside them. Who or What and how much was contributed to them. As well as their pet projects. And a general voting record. Condensed.
It will get bigger. The Arab Spring took years to reach the levels where they could overthrow a dictator. If economic conditions don’t improve, the protests will increase in number and intensity.
I am grateful for this action.
As a 70 yr old great-grandmother, I say, right on, my young brothers and sisters. If I could get there from NC, I would be there. The best days of my life were demonstrating against the Vietnam War and for other causes when I was a 30 yr old mother of 2. And I wore jeans, not suits. We all did.
I haven’t lost my fervor to change this country and will always support doing the right thing–and the Occupation of Wall St. is definitely the right thing. This is something I wished for during the Bush occupancy, bodies in the streets, en masse, but was told the Internet was enough, that I was old-fashioned.
I felt I was right then, 40 yrs ago, and still do today. My heartfelt thanks to those who are able to be there. You speak for me.
There’s going to be no real change until there’s real general strikes that fill Bloomberg and CNBC with CEOs wall to wall raging at all us “communists” on strike stealing all their profits.
#OccupyTogether is going to be one the preliminary steps along the way to general strikes.
I’ve been telling people for more than 10 years ago that we needed to be doing direct action. Since Florida 2000. The moment Scalia and the SCOTUS ordered ballots counting stopped, we should have instantly called a general strike.
YEP.
Well done Kevin and others.
Please remember the past though. “We” fought in Chicago and in other places before (Berkley, Columbia University, etc.) only to be castrated. The world was watching! But it took a Kent State where many middle class families thinking about their own kids being killed on campuses.
My heart and mind is with the crowd called “Occupy Wall Street”, but I hope they realize they are the spark that will take time to finally bubble to the surface although I am sure it will be sooner then we had during the Vietnam Conflict. Remember we had returning Vietnam veterans on our side also.
I can’t image the media and other are calling these people hippies…..so 60′s BS.
These are people in the “Occupy Wall Street” are worried about their future and rightfully so. I only hope they do not make some of the same mistakes we did in the 60′s-70′s, get caught up in one side or the other (DEM vs. GOP). This is an issue that both sides need to be castrated.
Thank you for the insights, Kevin. I am right there with those people, and I wish I lived in the NYC environs, and I would be there in person. I hope it continues to grow and spread.
I see an ironing board right there in that Shankbone photo, and I gotta say, I never saw one of those in any Vietnam era action, but what do I know about dressing??
I was thinking about the population of Egypt/Cairo (89 M/8.9M) and US/NYC (311M/8.3M), not to mention the enormous differentials of land mass and population clusters. There are lots of points that could be made about all of this, but could I suggest this? Arab Spring/Wall St. Fall.
That’s what I am talking about.
Occupy together: http://occupytogether.org/
Check the city nearest you. Spread out.
O.K. Try this one, for starters.
Http://www.slashdot.org
Scroll down to the relevant topic and read the comments.
There are others. At least the pepper spray raised the profile some.
I had lunch once with her. 32 yrs. ago.
Great article, Kevin. Establishment liberals are so myopic. That’s why after 2008 I stopped being a liberal. They are feckless and seem to denigrate anyone who tries to change the world. To heck with Oliver Willis Holmes or whatever his name is. Why doesn’t he get off his ass and do something. Whiners. They call us fire baggers and emoprogs–but these Obots are some of the biggest lazy-assed people on the planet.
These young people are heroes to me. They may not look perfect or have a long set of grievances carved in stone ready for publication–but dammit there is passion there!
Boycotts work. Protests not so much.
My lawn has zero to do with it. I live on the opposite end of the country. And, for your info, when Bush bombed Iraq we shutdown FREEWAYS. Wallstreet still works, exactly the same as last week and last year and the year before that. I don’t see that changing with the current tactics and a much more efficient police state.
Do you live out west? Here you go: http://occupytogether.org/events/west/
Great article. I’ve never heard of this Avlon character, what a creep. There seems to be an authoritarian, fuedal aspect to centrist arguments. The citizens exist only to serve the system/status quo. The voters must serve the political process. Workers must serve the investors.
Centrists will accept no less.
Raising awareness and trying to convince people to join the cause is all well and good, but if they don’t start doing something, this thing will not last long. This is the same problem I had with the WI demonstrations – people marched around for a few weeks, singing songs and carrying signs and, in the end, the law they were against passed anyway. With OWS, I think they should decide to be more proactive. If you’re going to get arrested for doing nothing (as some of them are) you might as well disrupt something. Block the entrances to the NYSE, the investment houses, banks,… SOMETHING! Taibbi wrote this today: “There are times when one wonders how effective marches are – one of the lessons that the other side learned from the Vietnam era is that you can often ignore even really big protests without consequence – but in this case demonstrations could be very important just in terms of educating people about the fact that there is, in fact, a well-defined conflict out there with two sides to it.
” http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/occupy-wall-street-drawing-the-battle-lines-20110927 He’s going there tomorrow. I’ll be interested to see his take on things.
I see the pilots marching. I do not see a police “escort” for them, them being kettled, arrested or pepper sprayed.
Because my job requires a security clearance and i can’t afford to be arrested? A trespass charge from a vietnam war protest started popping up on my checks a couple of years ago–even though it was dismissed. The new DHS programs are extremely efficient–back in the old days the question was, “Have you ever been convicted of a crime.” Now, conviction makes little difference to the computer–an arrest will get you flagged for further scrutiny. Many prospective employers will drop your application right there. Fortunately i’ve worked for the same company for a couple of decades but i probably wouldn’t even be given an interview nowadays. They want everyone to be good little boys and girls, and if you aren’t they can mess up your life, forever.
I wasn’t referring to the speed of your response but the fact that you appear to be dismissing out of hand any and all criticisms of Occupy Wall Street without considering — or appearing to consider — whether some of them might have validity and might help to make this action or future actions more effective. If my criticism sounds unduly sharp, then perhaps I could have phrased it more obliquely. I think this is a great idea and I want to see it be as effective as possible.
very thought provoking.
Again, I wasn’t saying that they shouldn’t have done this thing or that they should have waited until some sort of perfect conditions coalesced. What I was saying is that if so many people on our side, who wish this action well, have constructive criticisms, then perhaps those criticisms are worth listening to and learning from.
Knowing what i know now i won’t be participating in any more anti war protests either. The man has me cowed because I am too close to retirement and have too much to lose. At least i’m lucky enough to have a retirement.
The pilots look like old white man corporatists. Of course the cops won’t touch them!
I watched Bill Maher with Michael Moore, Harman, TM and Avalon…Hsrman was out of touch with everything and thought the way to getting the country was to the Dems and GOP work together passing bills!! How lame can you be? Avalon is a just young loud month who tried to change the subject..TM was spot on…what got me was Bill M did not know there have been protest over the summer by progressives…Bill STILL believe in Obama as does MM.
The mainstream medis is dismissive, corrupt and lazy…most of these “reporters” have it made and could care less about most of us..Keith Obermann has been following the story and has had members of the protests on his ahow…I am not a fan of KM as he too still believes in Obama but at least he is working on this
Yeah, I myself have been co-opted by retail! Took a low-paying retail job only because it came with health insurance- crappy health insurance with a $2000 deductible, so I still can’t afford to use it, but at least it’s not costing me $17,000 a year, which is what I was paying for an individual policy.
I think there’s always been conflict between those who think we should work within the system( things like working within the Democratic Party to return it to what it used to stand for)and those who want a whole new system. From what I can tell, the occupiers are coming down on the side of a whole new system.
elsewise why would Mother Jones retain the perpetually befuddled kevin drum –
the guy who can never, ever decide
which side
he is on?
on the one hand,
on the other hand,
off hand,
back hand,
no hands,
that’s kevin drum and
that’s his benefactor, Mother Jones.
“four square”, you might say.
The system is going to collapse. So the conflict is moot.
yes, i wasn’t surprised. i was just noting it.
Screw the traditional media. One of my architectural students today had an “Occupy Wall Street” sign in our studio today. Word is getting out despite a corrupt and complicit corporate media.
olderwiser2 –
nicely said.
passionate and eloquent.
tx
Nice
Jane Harman is the problem.
Tom Morello is the solution. It was healing to my soul to listen to Tom speak the truth clearly, eloquently and passionately.
Harman shows the illness of the Democratic party. Those people actually believe this garbage.
Most of people participating in these protests know they are probably gonna beat-up by the police. Probably more than once. We got to put police in a situation where police can demonstrate what Fascists they’ve become from three different camera angles.
Portland Police have a hideous reputation. Right behind LAPD. Mostly because long string of hires from LAPD. PPD will probably be every bit as bad as NYPD has been.
They’ll have to be strikes by the union-less because unionization is so low now. Let’s hope it can happen. Though, the leadership of many unions in the US is about negotiating with management and not strikes and protests. It’s great to see when it does happen.
I see co-opted as not being about joining the work world, but by obtaining a decent career that makes you feel everything is all right and there’s no reason to raise ruckus anymore or support those who do. If we’re left with increasingly horrible jobs, I don’t think one would get the same feeling working for them and would remain open to raising ruckus if they can afford to.
Says who? Back it up with some evidence.
“Traditional media have characterized the plurality of voices and the number of issues the occupation is seeking to challenge as a weakness.” No, this is its strength.
I’ll join most everyone else in saying well done. It looks like the commenters over at Mother Jones agree with you about the Ellis article.
Here’s one:
Years ago Mother Jones wrote an ignorant, sneering article trashing Rachel Corrie after she was murdered by the IDF bulldozer. The article also managed to make fun of those weird Palestinians.
That was the end for me.
I so love what you are doing. If I could have my youth and/or my health back, I would be there with you in NYC in a heartbeat. I am from the draft resistance movement of the 60′s. My people died on the campus of Kent State.
I have finally heard a public person (Michael Moore) say exactly what I have only been able to say to limited private audiences for the last 5 years (and not even taken seriously there). The people WILL rise up. It could get REALLY ugly if a decent less-than-ugly movement gets thwarted. Wall Street damn well better pay attention now.
“Avlon is an example of why many Americans do not support Occupy Wall Street. They understand that Occupy Wall Street wants to have an impact on the system and force the system to respond to the occupation’s demands, but they see protesters do not want to work within the system and lobby members of Congress and sign petitions and find out what piecemeal reforms representatives and senators think they can manage to deliver without jeopardizing their re-election campaigns. They are afraid of people power or “too much democracy.”
“People like Avlon and Harman fear people power or acts of rebellion because they choose to be managers of democracy rather than citizens. And, actually, media and the elites aren’t the only ones who think like this. Numerous politically engaged Americans operate like managers of democracy in America because they believe “purism” on issues will create gridlock and prevent anything from being done. They despise making urgent demands of power because they believe Washington is only and has only ever been capable of incremental reform. To them, making demands and refusing to budge places an unacceptable burden on President Obama and legislators.”
That is an exceedingly cogent diagnosis of our problem. Thank you, Kevin.
Glenn Greenwald just published a great article on the same topic and referenced this article. http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/09/28/protests
Rich Democrats are much closer to Rich Republicans than they are to Progressive Democrats.
Brainwashed Corporate, Militaristic, faux-Dems like Jane Harman have no interest whatsoever in the plight of the Middle-Class or the poor. They are brainwashed into believing that anything the helps Corporate Monopolies and the corrupt Wall Street Banking Industry (i.e., “big business”) is “good for America“. Yet all the policies of the last 35 years in this Country have totally destroyed and discredited that phony myth. People like Jane Harman will never be part of the solution. They are the problem, and they will never “get it”.
Right-wing Oligarchy hacks like John Avlon have no more insight on the problems of Main Street, or the problems of government than Rush Limbaugh do. Voices like his are as useless as Dick Cheney’s. We waste Trillions of dollars overseas merchandising Death, Slaughter, Brutality, Military Occupations, Human Torture, Drug Trafficking, Assassinations, Regime Change, and the proliferation of Nuclear, Biological, Chemical, and Conventional Weapons. We even have Militarized Outer Space itself.
Until we stop doing these things, there will be no money left to ever rebuild our own crumbling Country.