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Days after New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg ordered NYPD to carry out the eviction of Occupy Wall Street from Liberty Square, occupiers are engaging in a massive international day of action. Part of their plans involves shutting down Wall Street this morning when the market opens. Another part of their plans involves “occupying the subways”—boarding trains in different boroughs of the city to take the message of the Occupy movement to the people.
The day of action was planned well-ahead of the raid (here is a video of the call to action). The bold nature of the plans (“Shut down Wall St!”) likely freaked out the city, as it has seen how powerful the movement has become and that they are capable of turning out thousands of people.
Today, Occupy Wall Street marks its two-month anniversary. The march has taken off for the New York Stock Exchange. It left from the park, paused at the red cube and is moving onward to get as close to the NYSE as possible.
As of 7:09 PM, access to Wall Street had already been obstructed by police. Press in and around the NYSE are being told the area is a “frozen zone.” A huge police presence has already formed. There are mounted police. The area is gated and journalists are being tossed out (some are being encouraged to relocate to a “press pen”).
Firedoglake’s premier live blog continues now. Here is a Twitter list to follow for the latest news on the day of action. All times are ET.
LIVESTREAM VIA OWSNYC
1:15 PM This blog will close down between 2 and 2:30 pm and a new blog will go up to follow “Occupy the Subways” and march across Brooklyn Bridge.
12:37 PM RT report that features discussion of LRAD that was used by the NYPD during the protests this morning. Lucy Kafanov talks about more repression of the press by the NYPD. An IndyBayArea reporter was arrested. Kafanov says it feels like a “militarized police zone.”
11:23 AM In wild scene, occupiers take down barricades. The police are unprepared for this, but forces are on the scene quickly. CNN reporter is on the ground reporting live when this begins to unfold. A camera shows two people being pulled out of crowd to be arrested. Occupiers swarm the area where a confrontation happens. There is pushing and shoving by police. The scene calms but crowd remains near where barricades were removed.
11:06 AM Ryan Devereaux of Democracy Now! has a series of tweets that details police action against protesters:
10:44 AM
10:27 AM @LiborVonSchonau has this photo of a scene of protesters still down by Wall Street. Police threatening this group with arrest.
10:22 AM LRAD used on occupiers
10:13 AM “All day, all week, Occupy Wall Street!” being chanted. Occupiers figuring out where to go in area on Broadway not far from Liberty Square. The plan is supposedly to return to the park now for a victory rally at 10:30 am:
9:58 AM Glenn Greenwald has written a post that praises Firedoglake for its Occupy Supply campaign. He mentions the work that I have been doing and the tireless work that Ryan Cook has been doing to help ensure supplies get shipped to occupations.
An excerpt on why Greenwald appreciates Occupy Supply:
…What makes this activism particularly impressive is that it is designed to build an ongoing and highly effective support network. Rather than indiscriminately dumping the clothing at various encampments, FDL has built a network of liasons and representatives to ensure that it goes to the places that need it most, and that it reaches those who will use it for its intended purpose: primarily, the “sleeper” protesters, largely impoverished, who form the backbone of the camps. Beyond that, FDL has expended great efforts to ensure that the goods it distributes are manufactured not in Chinese sweatshops but rather entirely by American unions — a difficult challenge in this age of disappearing American industry — which in turn ensures that the workers producing the products enjoy health insurance, living wages, and a decent standard of living: aims of the Occupy movement itself…
9:56 AM Arrests continue. @AllisonKilkenny has another photo:
9:48 AM One thought: all those being arrested now will likely be unable to “Occupy the Subways” at 3 pm or participate in action this evening that will likely involve crossing the Brooklyn Bridge. The police are likely to hold arrestees in jail until late tonight when action has died down.
9:30 AM Opening bell rings, however, OccupyWallSt.org indicates that the occupiers never intended to stop the bell or delay the bell.
9:25 AM No delay for opening bell? More barricades going up at NYSE.
9:18 AM Retired Philly police captain Ray Lewis just arrested by NYPD. He was given opportunity to get off the street (more than they did for other people). He walked off upright in true captain-like fashion.
9:15 AM Looks like Occupy Wall Street may have succeeded. Reports of the morning bell being delayed. Rumor?
9:06 AM CBS livestream features good aerial view of the scene.
9:00 AM @JoshHarkinson tweets —
8:58 AM More photos of arrests from Lucy Kafanov:
8:54 AM Another livestream from the scene via @TheOther99.
8:50 AM Protesters sit down in street. A police officer walked over and laid a man face down on the pavement and made an arrest. Occupiers sitting in the street are now subject to arrest.
@mtracey tweets this photo from somewhere in the area. It is of an NYPD commander informing protesters they do not have a “parade permit” and are subject to arrest.
8:48 AM Protesters are sitting in the street at Exchange & William (via @allisonkilkenny)
8:45 AM Police are pushing people on to the ground at Hanover & Wall St. (via @VOCALNewYork)
8:44 AM Police are moving in on crowd. There are arrests being made (via @LucyKafanov):
8:37 AM Cynthia Kouril is blogging at myFDL too. She notes that Occupy Wall Street is calling out Mayor Bloomberg for spreading disinformation. OWS does not intend to shut down subways. They do not intend to block bridges, which the city is suggesting.
8:25 AM A small group is sitting down in the street (via @ajecathturner)
And, here is another photo of the crowd (via @AACina):
8:21 AM
7:33 AM Police set up a checkpoint at Broadway and Cedar (via @allisonkilkenny)
7:29 AM J.A. Myerson tweets this photo:
7:20 AM The march is headed to the NYSE.
7:15 AM Tony Danza is sighted talking to an NYPD officer (via @katz)
6:50 AM
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NYPD Horse Troops
Williams and E entrance 2 Wall Street
View of Wall Street
LS – Occupy Wall Street NYC
Motorcycle cops following the back end of the march.
Reposting this from the end of yesterday’s liveblog:
Amazing interview: Keith Olbermann interviewing Dorli Rainey, the 84 year old woman who got pepper sprayed in Seattle.
She was born and grew up in Nazi Germany and is comparing what is happening here with her experience of Nazi Germany. That part starts just after 5:10, but the whole thing is well worth watching. She’s been an activist her whole life and is really inspiring.
I’ve never seen Keith so soft or listening so well.
LS – OWS NYC
Cops blocking anyone without work or school ID.
On a public street.
LS – OWS NYC
Crowd chanting “This is… a non-violent protest.”
Occupy Wall Street NYC
This says it all:
Sit-in at Pine and Nassau
Pine at Nassau
LS – OWS NYC
Two rows of people back-to-back with arms linked blocking the street.
Wall Street Livestream: Police just wheeled a woman in a wheelchair to police van.
LS – OWS NYC
Guy getting out of limousine got huge police escort to get to work.
The Other 99 LS just announced that the Opening Bell of the New York Stock Exchange is delayed.
Nassau and Pine: a street marching band
LS OWS-NYC
Forming sit-in circles in intersections. People going to share stories about being part of the 99%–with people’s mic
Wall St. opening delayed. History in the making.
The OWSNYC LS chat is saying the opening bell isn’t until 9:30 EST.
NYSE – flag of InvenSense
Dancing in the street
LS OWS NYC
Briefly showed busload of NYPD going by
Wiki says the normal opening time of the NYSE is 9:30 am
#OWS=Orwell’s Wickedest Scenario by American Zen’s Mike Flannigan. A must-read neutron bomb of a post about OWS.
LS OWS-NYC
Someone trying to disrupt the circle of 99% stories by pulling GA rules.
Heh. Some of the protesters are wearing suits and are getting through the barricades.
LS OWS NYC
NYPD pushing crowd back on sidewalk in area under scaffolding.
Oooooh there’s a limo, NYPD protecting 1% ability to get to work.
A fighter for the little guy.
LS – OWS NYC
NYPD ordering live cam off the scaffolding, where he was taking shots of police pushing.
LS – OWS NYC
People with protests painted on top of umbrellas, visible to folks looking out windows from above.
Love it.
“You can’t win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.”
LS – OWS-NYC
Bags of garbage in the street. The framing of the narrative begins.
LOL I have had a bad feeling about warren for some time.
LS OWS-NYC
Mass of motorcycle NYPD formed by some church.
BTW, Dow-Jones opened 15 points down. Big whoop.
I’d like to see the link for that, but it doesn’t surprise me. Campaign contributors are so much more impt than voters, dontcha know.
LS OWS-NYC
Chanting “Peaceful protest…peaceful protest…”
Warren’s a budding politician which means, like all of them, she will say what she needs to for pandering purposes.
If ever a benign event could be supported, it would be Occupy Harvard, the only designer occupation in America; some of their tents are worth more than my house.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1381558
I’m also really dubious about her. She may be the next Obama. There’s some facts about her that just aren’t good. First, wasn’t she a registered Republican? Second, she is tenured at Harvard Law School (a much more conservative place following Elena Kagan’s stewardship), making her a comfortable part of the elite establishment. Third, I’ve never seen a comprehensive critique of society from her. She seems to be narrowly focused on the transparency of financial documents, which is a good cause in and of itself, but hardly indicative of an overall progressive outlook. Finally, her run for the Senate in Massachusetts may indicate great political ambition. None of these facts are damning in themselves, but together they are enough to raise considerable suspicion.
Be careful of the horses, please.
Liberty Park
Anyone who expected OWS to delay the bell or affect stocks today is naive or dreaming. It’s strength is in the long haul. A police state is able to keep people away from where it doesn’t want them to be. Likewise, the wealthy aren’t going to worry so long as the police state looks like it’s in full control. If people can disrupt in other ways, like how some protesters find their ways into hearings in DC, that will up the ante a bit. Just have to keep trying.
Love the irony of the photos. Occupiers can’t find jobs afford food and housing but hey $500 i-phones and $140 a month data plans….no problem……
anybody still not using Twitter, today is the f***ing day to get started – beyond riveting !
I completely lost it at ringing the ‘people’s bell’
Mornin’ Kevin and Firedogs !
That was a great segment. I was stunned to see the sheer amount of pepper spray being hosed onto the crowd in Seattle.It was like they were spraying water
That old woman is now my heroine. She is so brave. the Nazi Germany thing coming from one who lived thru it was particularly chilling, but then, we’ve pretty much know it since Bush.
Definitely worth a re-watch
AIG Chairman to OWS and millions devastated by the crisis: You mad, bra? http://bit.ly/u6J2Oe
.. except the vast majority of the Occupiers ARE employed (or underemployed), which means people who DO have something to put on the line ARE doing so for the rest that can’t find a job in this hideous market.
That doesn’t even cover the terrible nature of what jobs there are that don’t pay a living wage.
That also has no bearing on the fact that the financial aristocracy has been engaged in wholesale rape of the poor and middle class for the last 40 years.
uh no,
irony is american citizens having to use protest signs as shields against public employee batons
Thanks.
Talk is cheap. Money isn’t.
It also looks like Warren might be vying with O for finding the sweet spot that guaranties pissing off both sides to the max degree.
She will be vilified by the right for her rhetorical and condemned by the left for selling out.
I couldn’t read twitter if you beat me with a stick. It is incomprehensible.
“don’t pay a living wage”
If you can afford an i-phone then the problem isn’t your wage, it is your priorities. If you can’t pay your mortgage or rent then maybe you don’t need a $500 phone.
LS OWS-NYC
NYPD has cleared an intersection – not sure where it is
… didn’t even read what I wrote, did you. Go back and try again. This time, try using both eyes in tandem.
Who the fuck are you to decide priorities for other people?
You may be expecting too much from that one.
If you’re not using Twitter, the live blog diary at DKos has far more updates: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/17/1037328/-LIVE:-Amid-Efforts-to-Intimidate-Journalists,-New-York-Marches-on-Wall-St
Not endorsing that site as a whole as they’re the blog equivalent of MSNBC (the front pagers ignored OWS for a long time, until other Democratic proxy groups starting endorsing it, then they pretended to be the movement’s best friend and using it as another tool in their partisan agenda).
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it took me a while to like it/decode it – plus, I resisted abbreviating everything and using “2″ for to, “thot” for thought, etc.
common sense?
If you can’t afford to eat then why would you purchase a $500 phone? with $140 monthly data plan? The fact that some people still can’t grasp the “living beyond their means” is mind baffling.
Thanks bra. That one irks me. Will endeaver to refrain.
Yeah, whether he’s HeadedWest or BackEast, his head is always in the same place
I wish there was a troll button we could use that would automatically make the blue bar turn red so we know which posts to ignore when we’re logged in.
So you think it makes sense for someone having trouble affording their housing and food to run out and buy an i-phone and designer jeans? No wonder nobody is taking OWS seriously. The rest of the country is laughing at you.
It’s the stupid. It burns.
No, it looks like your part of the country is terrified of us.
I don’t read stock tickers either. Somewhat similar problem. I was an economist, not broker.
With twitter, it’s all the extraneous symbols like hash tags that one has to slog thru. Don’t understand why they are needed. Last I looked at my calendar it was 2011, almost 2012, and it seems like those could be invisibiliated in print form, just like all the html garbage is.
Glenn talked about us! I can die happy now.
Apparently Bloomie/NYPD taking #OWS srsly today and movement has got them out in such force that downtown is fairly crippled. Use police against WS, in effect. Not bad.
About Warren, she can’t win no matter what she does. We complain about politicos trying to co-opt, then if they don’t participate, they are wimps. It is kind of difficult to navigate.
Trollboy – READ AND ASSIMILATE
.. except the vast majority of the Occupiers ARE employed (or underemployed), which means people who DO have something to put on the line ARE doing so for the rest that can’t find a job in this hideous market.
Do you comprehend?
That doesn’t even cover the terrible nature of what jobs there are that don’t pay a living wage.
A living wage is one where you can actually afford a phone and data plan, as well as supporting your family, and maybe buying a house. That was possible in the past before the oligarchs outsourced manufacturing and started writing legislation that legislated their own industries.
That also has no bearing on the fact that the financial aristocracy has been engaged in wholesale rape of the poor and middle class for the last 40 years.
No comment on that?
CNBC reporting NYPD kicking Media out, arresting journalists right and left in the last 10 minutes – occupiers worried they are planning something
As part of our national Massive day of Action, I’m going to give you a virtual hug.
((BackEast))
We love you, even if we disagree with damn near every idea you have and can’t understand why you’re so angry.
Dontcha love the law of the unintended outcome. Police prolly more effective than marchers in blocking access to Wall St.
Have you seen the Greenwald post that Kevin links to above? A lot of words dedicated to OccupySupply and a call for donations. He mentions liaisons. I’m so happy I could pee!
That was an amazing segment. She deserves a medal of honor. Simply stunning the way she articulated everything.
Maybe they’re hoping that letting people back into Zucotti will get them away from the NYSE?
I think people are already moving back to Zucotti Park. There are conflicting reports as to whether NYPD are trying to kettle those returning in order to make mass arrests.
LS OWS-NYC
NYPD car says on the side “Policing with compassion”
I don’t use Twitter or Facebook trying to stay under the corporate radar if you will. Besides I just come here and get my news complete and thorough. *g*
You’re right. It’s totally wrong for the poor and unemployed to use mainstream technology. And they should be wearing the most threadbare things they have. Thanks for clearing that up.
This is nothing more than your opinions. Why would I even bother to try and change whatever excuses you have made to make yourself feel better. You don’t want a debate, you are just looking for others to validate your warped view of the world. Then you all can sit around and whine together. Much easier for you to blame others than actually examine your own decisions.
LS OWS-NYC
Medic dealing with something off camera.
Someone trying to stampede crowd into a march up Broadway.
Since I am one of those long term underemployed who has a bare minimum phone plan, no iPhone, no data plans, barely paying my rent and not buying designer jeans, all I can say is you do tend to paint with a very broad brush.
At a minimum, you might consider offering something other than Rust Limpballs daily talking points
Kris@101: I know of a corner of B of A in SF where you could relieve yourself.
Financial decisions like that its no wonder so many people lost their homes. Hard to feel sorry for them if having the newest gadget is more important than putting a roof over your kids heads.
Not too far off-topic, showing the effectiveness of non-violent protest. This link also appeared on the PNHP site . . . and if nothing else provides insight as well as a chuckle. (Sorry it’s a day [or two] late. Go OWS!!
Here is a brilliant non-violent way a dozen or more brought the message of equitable health care to the US Chamber of Commerce.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/protesters-occupy-u-s-chamber-of-commerce-in-longest-awkwardest-interruption-ever/
I’m sorry to hear about your situation but can appreciate and respect your ability to keep things in perspective and act responsibly during this time. Good luck with the search for a new job.
Thank you. I will buy you a drink if I ever make it down to Austin? Dallas? Houston? etc
Great report Kevin. I will be at the St. Louis march today at three. I will post video and a diary. This is our time. Never give up as SD says. I wonder what’s in store from our mayor?
Dude. Try looking for a job without a phone with a data plan. Good luck. The choice isn’t between phone and housing. That’s silly. It’s between phone and toiletries, coffee, and other “luxuries”. It’s like putting an oxygen mask on your own face before the face of your child in an air emergency. You can’t help your child until you have air for yourself. And college kids usually don’t have kids yet, anyway.
Now I will srcoll.
Unfortunately, I cannot have the same respect as you continue to repeat the same tired lines that paint all the Occupier supporters as being unfit to protest because they might have technology. Maybe they bought their phones and computers and designer clothing before losing their jobs.
You just assume that you know everything pertinent about protestors based solely on your imagination of what their lives are about with no true knowledge of their individual realities.
Technology is only for the 1%, doncha know. I gotta scroll, I’m wasting time reading BE.
Really? Who do you think you are kidding.
You need the newest smart phone to find a job? What happened to using free library internet and a prepaid cell phone? You don’t need a $500 phone that carries your i-tunes playlist and acts as your digital camera to find a job. That is a pretty sorry.
Occupy Los Angeles
I don’t think it’s a waste of time. I think BE provides a valuable insight into the mentality that we’re struggling against. I get really frustrated with him sometimes, but at the very least he provides us a look into the other side of the argument.
It always helps me to remember that we have the massive benefit of being right. Or at least the benefit of being willing to be wrong.
Most phone plans run for two years and have high exit fees. It’s easy to be “morally” superior when you are not in the situation.
A lot of folks are in trouble because of stuff they could afford when they were working but now cannot afford but cannot get out of because of the contract handcuffs.
I haven’t got time to read all of the comments, so please excuse if this is already posted, but I came across this:
OWS-Inspired Activism
Glenn devotes four paragraphs and two photos to FDL’s OccupySupply and Kevin’s activism. He has a photo of Ryan Cook in his “store” and one of the hats with the OccupySupply logo.
MUST read!
ohh now my feelings are hurt.
I’m simply calling these kids out for who they are. These protests don’t resonate with people when they see a bunch of over privileged white kids using the same items that most middle class individuals/families choose to go without because of cost. I Phones, video cameras, designer clothing. When some young punk pulls up to the OWS protest complaining about how far away he had to park his BMW its tough to feel sorry for the group. These agitators will move on at some point and its for the best or their parents will cut off their allowance and they’ll have to actually ho out and look for a job.
And there’s that whole personally responsibility thing of not just walking away from contracts, but continuing service because you can scrape together $100 a month for your bill, but not $400 all at once to get out of your contract.
Aha. HeadedWest’s sockpuppet, BackEast, returns. Please ignore.
It’s not the only thing to have, but it helps tremendously. When a call for a job interview comes, how do you answer the phone without a phone? How do you check email without access to email. Don’t tell me a landline and a computer. The combined cost of those is higher.
Also, the iphone sure comes in handy when you’re filming the police pepper spraying your friends and beating you.
You’re being disingenuous, BE.
BE is a sockpuppet.
You are naive or just ignoring reality. These days a cell phone with a data plan, a computer and the internet are an absolute requirement for job hunting. Many companies won’t consider you unless it is over the internet.
They may contact you via e mail, cell phone or text message. We do.
I know we won’t ever change BE’s mentality. But I stand by what I said. If we take a step back from engaging emotionally with his comments, we can view the issue from the other side of the fence and gain valuable information and perspective.
That was awesome. I hope that the participants at the US Chamber of Commerce having difficulty eating their breakfast are now sufficiently awake and get a life.
Who said don’t own a phone? Get a prepaid phone for $30. You go to the library and use the free internet connection to check email and look for jobs. This isn’t rocket science. The more excuses you make the more ridiculous you look.
Tiresome troll that ignores reality is tiresome.
I work very closely with the recruiting department for my software company because I handle all of the travel related to prospective new hires going to and fro for interviews.
Our recruiting team prefers a cell phone as a primary contact and text messages recruits heavily. Our 5 person recruiting team (I also handle our cell phone accounts, so I see these numbers every month) averages in the neighborhood of 28,000 text messages per month. Their primary source for resumes are craigslist, monster, and ladders.
Technology is a necessity for the job providers and the job seekers to connect.
Yer right. BE helps prevent groupthink.
I loved that video. I think their tactic of having a new speaker take up the script as each previous speaker was escorted out was wonderful. Assured that they would get the entire message across before being forced out.
Great planning and even better execution.
Yes it is. It is just nonesense to say you don’t need them or just go take a walk downtown to the library.
Variety is the spice of life, ysd.
Though admittedly, some days I’m not in the right frame of mind and just want BE to STFU.
Demonstrators back in the Park. Moving barricades off to the side into one place. Police then in the process of moving them back. Police pushing press and media.
Here’s the live stream.
With the saturation of unemployed in the current job market, we see at least 20-30 candidates per opening. We usually interview 5 to 7. To stay competitive as a job seeker one has to be immediately available and immediately responsive. There are so many others who are qualified and seeking as well. If you want to have a chance, you’ve got to be quick and efficient. Technology enables this.
Anyone have a link to a working, live OWS NYC livestream? Mine had an Adobe Flash crash.
And that sounds like another urban legend along the lines of St Ronnie’s infamous (and untrue) “Welfare Cadillac queen”
But even if there is some random kid with a beemer making that complaint (and having worked in that area, I know there isn’t a lot of available parking which is why most people use things like the subway,) it does not obviate the vast majority of people participating who are not driving beemers, are not wearing designer clothes, are not using iPhones, etc
Psychic are you?
You think Wall Street has the message that America is not going to bail them out again?
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gedqNpd_90g
LS – OWS
They appear to be pushing the cops back toward the street (Liberty St maybe?).
livestream.com/globalrevolution is still working for me. I’ve got it up in Google Chrome on the TV.
Dude, I’m not the one who looks ridiculous, here.
Technology is essential for business and not having the tools of business makes you a much less desireable candidate. Yer a capitalist, so you know that.
I’m outta here, and now I’ve spent my precious morning time talking to BE. Ack.
According to the screen crawl, police weren’t allowing signs at the Park this morning at 6 AM.
Chanting: “This is a non-violent protest” then “Leave our park.”
No doubt but access is everywhere and doesn’t require spending hundreds of dollars a month.
http://globalrevolution.tv/
LS OWS-NYC
People handing barricades to the police, and the police are taking them away.
I’ve have the plug-in (java) crash in my browser. I just refresh the browser and the video stream player comes up again.
http://www.livestream.com/owsnyc
What are you talking about?
Chant: “I don’t see no riot here. Take off your riot gear.”
LS OWS-NYC
“I don’t see no riot here…Take off your riot gear.”
You may want to take a shower after the hug.
Um, looks like 2 police utility vans on the scene. A West Indies flavor to the percussion this morning. Dance party on top of some barricades.
Good one. Need to be repeated a lot, like the Hey hey LBJ one. Apparently that got to him after awhile, according to tapes.
2,809 viewers on my leg of the live stream.
BULLSHIT!!!!!!
FWIW
When I hear that, it’s head up to see what the police are doing.
According to the live stream, police outside the US embassy. Hmmm, what’s up?
More from Kevin:
its called financial responsibility.
You’re right. But examine these facts. I have a smart phone. As does my wife. For the two of us to have unlimited talk, text, and web with a national carrier we pay $150 per month. My company reimburses $65 of this for me because I work from home. My cell phone is my primary business contact line.
My rent is $1,050 per month for our house. $150 would help in covering that if I needed it to (and a couple of years ago I lapsed on our cell phones for 2 months during a time of dire financial trouble).
To purchase my employer’s health insurance plan for my family of 4 would be $786 per month.
So I’m not sacrificing health insurance to keep my cell phone. I can’t afford the insurance with or without the cell phone.
Do you see what I’m driving at here? I make a bit more than twice the minimum wage, and my wife brings in an additional $1,000 a month. So we pay all of our bills every month. I have less than $700 in credit card debt spread across 3 cards that I haven’t made any purchases with in the last year (been paying them down from about $3k, had to buy groceries last time I was unemployed). I pay my rent on time, pay my bills on time and in full, and have decent credit. We own 1 newish (6 year old Dodge Stratus) that is paid for in full.
But I’m still $5 an hour away from being able to afford health insurance for my family. I’m above the poverty line so I can’t get any government subsidized health care.
So there you have it. I’m young (27), responsible, credit-worthy, employed, and consider myself to be lower-middle class. My wife even has a college degree and two state higher education certificates.
But we still can’t provide everything that our family needs.
So what happens if one of my daughters gets sick or injured? I’m forced to take on debt, which I’ve been very responsible about and avoided in the past.
Can you see why we think there should be a better alternative? My wife and I work hard to provide for our kids. We pay our bills. We don’t buy houses we can’t afford, or have any toys. No boats or quads or jet skis. We’ve got a reasonable car and a reasonable rental home and a reasonable income. But we’re still just one accident or sudden serious illness away from being crushed with debt.
U.S. embassy where? Do you mean the U.S. mission to the U.N.?
I’m looking to answer that question. What do you see, eCAHN?
Zucotti Park: Open to the public
I think everyone is responsible. They manage somehow to keep the lights on and keep sending their money to the corporations every month. Those that can’t need help.
The real irresponsible people are in DC and corporate offices.
Livestream:
Protesters bouncing on barricades.
THANK YOU. She grew up with the OTHER NAZIS.
Well SEIU leadership just made themselves irrelevant endorsing the drone-assassin-in-chief:
“SEIU gives Barack Obama early 2012 endorsement” | RawStory, By Eric W. Dolan, Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Now why would they feel compelled to keep this insane, corrupt system going?
I’ve had msnbc on. It’s been a long time since I watched MSM so I have little basis of comparison.
A couple of stories surprised me. First, they are covering OWS, which is why I tuned in. And the coverage is not entirely biased. The coverage is conclusory, in the sense that much of it is not sourced. But they have picked some to interview who are not wearing clown clothes and who are articulate for the movement.
They are all over Newt’s case for his payments from Freddie.
They are catching onto the fact that the real story is NOT what pols do that is illegal, but rather how much of the crooked stuff they do which IS LEGAL.
Also, Abramoff is quite an outspoken reformer. Suspect it won’t be long before Abramoff will be 86ed from the media.
DOW DOWN!!!!!YA!!! LOVE IT!!
SICKENING ENDORSING THE OREO COOKIE
Hey!! Fool the Dow opened DOWN.
The most sickening part is that she says in the same sentence that she supports 99ers AND O.
Twitter just dropped my lists. Sheesh. Corporate effing media.
it is?
Jerk on CNN talking about how the NYPD and Mayor will do anything to protect the people. It looks more like they are trying to protect Wall Street from some marchers.
Stocks have been hovering around unchanged most of the day.
SEIU should be banned from supporting or appearing to support OWS. The movement should disavow any connection to them and kick their asses to the curb.
LRAD being deployed at William St. nearby. Live stream operator running to find out and report.
Still looking re what’s up and at which US embassy.
Steve Miller chairman of AIG during bailout which got 89 billion in FED loans and 69 billion in taxpayer loan had this to say about OWS
SM: Well, unfortunately I would say the understanding of the Occupy Wall Street crowd of what makes our country work is probably fairly limited. It’s a very simplistic view of things. No one will ever know what would have happened to our country and our whole global financial system if AIG had been allowed just to go down. All I know is that over a long weekend some very serious people in Washington, Hank Paulson and Tim Geithner and so on, made the decision to bail out AIG. They did it in a way that protected the interests of the taxpayers so that they would have the prospect of recovering all the money
From what I gathered on Livestream the flags are the leaders of the different groups marching. The flag leaders take their groups on different routes. They are pointing out that counter terrorism trucks and people are there.
Agree with that.
Shun all pols & any org that supports them
Corps or unions.
Unions entered amicus curiae briefs in CU, too, if memory serves.
I read in an article someone had quoted MoveOn.org as one of the main supporters of OWS.. not bloody likely, unless it can benefit the Democrats somehow.
And he has his pants on FIRE! Flaming actually.
How do you even know “they” purchased them? My son has a phone that we provide for him, we purchased the phone as a Christmas gift several years ago. Likewise with my daughter(she’ll be 18 in January). Adding a data plan to an existing data plan is $40, not $140. While my son would be hard pressed to afford that $40 extra per month(he works 2 jobs, one for minumum and the other for slightly above), my husband is perfectly able to afford that kind of extra if he chooses.
I don’t see why that couldn’t be the case for other people besides my own family.
I surely hope not.
Confirm?
Just mentioned that a provacture was in the park this morning with a full bottle of vodka. The protesters surrounded him and pushed him out.
Just stated that the police have one group walled in.
Aha, it’s been several months since I’ve heard the VSP meme. Gotta love it.
Occupy LA livestream
Chant:
Who has the power? We have the power.
I’m sure many of these cases are similar to yours in that well to do parents continue to support their children financially into their mid to late 20s.
O thinks the prob with U.S. is that its gotten lazy & soft.
Arrests already on the Portland, OR video stream from KGW. Police blocking marchers.
Wonderful. Almost as good as the Chamber of Commerce group.
Please don’t feed the troll – it keeps him from controlling the direction of the conversation.
Livestream now showing Portland. Masses of people!
ironic given that they are fenced into the park like cattle
Crawl on Global Revolution LS says 15-20 arrested in 1am raid at Occupy Dallas this morning.
Hadn’t seen that bit of news yet.
the SEIU asked me to donate $10
‘to help us re-elect President Obama in 2012′.
Here’s what I wrote back:
Dear Mary Kay Henry, SEIU President,
Are you joking?
President Obama couldn’t care less about labor.
wake up people!
How dare you ask working people to give their hard-earned money to the oligarch’s tool, President Obama?
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Sincerely,
A pro-labor former Democrat
I wonder how long it will take the states to realize that the Police actions have produced the only violence and destruction.
GR LS – Portland police are forming a second line of riot cops. Spanning the street. Appears they’re preparing to push back the crowd. Individuals being picked out of the crowd and arrested sporadically.
I got one report yesterday that the Portland, OR police were acting pretty crazy about 1 PM.
Occupy Portland live stream: http://www.livestream.com/occupyptown.
You can join the chat and/or the Twitter stream. 549 viewers now.
They’re “just following orders”.
Probably to protect their pensions. Sadly they don’t understand that those pensions are being ripped off on a daily basis, and thanks to WS, will be useless when another crash happens.
One can buy an I-phone for as little as $39…
Yep. Even the brand new ones can be purchased for $149 with a two year contract and upgrade eligibility. I’ve bought a dozen or so for the folks at work through our company account.
Confirm??
A quick break by operators on the Occupy Wall Street Independent Media Team. They’ve been working ridiculous hours. You can show them some love if you can donate (here) or to another live stream team covering an #Occupy (e.g. I know Portland needs much more assistance; info/contact here).
Great signs carried by demonstrators in Portland that I see on the live stream. Onlookers on a pedestrian bridge holding signs.
Forever. All the violence will be blamed on the marchers.
Pic
I wonder if and when the Fourth Estate will do something beyond a sternly worded letter about the way their employees have been treated by the authorities in the last few days.
I’ve been short since Friday, in accordance with the “sell Dow 12,100-12,180″ call I shared here last week. High since that call has been 12,186. My reading of the charts says we are about to accelerate into a rather sizeable drop in the markets.
I very much hope this succeeds and they do shut down Wall Street for a day. This is the real point of Occupy.
I’m so thrilled this is happening. I wish I was younger and abler and could be there instead of only being able to participate marginally in my local Occupy Bellingham. I’ve been advocating for years that we needed to take it to the real powers and occupy Wall Street and by that I meant shut down the exchange.
This is only the beginning. The times they are a changing.
Canadian news flash from former CHUM program director J. Robert Wood:
maybe but don’t discount the wizard behind the curtain
Satire ahead:
We just dropped 100 Dow points since I typed the last comment. I would say the MOTU’s are feeling a bit uncomfortable. WOOT!
MSM are more likely to pull all coverage of OWS away and fire any reporter who dares to complain about ill treatment from PTB.
Right now, I’m the wizard darlin’ lol. Couldn’t have picked a better day for this to happen.
Occupy the dance floor – Zucotti Park
Huzzah!
Morning, all. This is a very exciting day. Haven’t read all the comments yet but hope this is happening all over the world.
WTF do those mean. Those are a perfect example of everything I despise about tweets; the Tourettes of the toobz, except that Tourettes sufferers more often say sensible things and tweets almost never do.
U.S. 10 year bond yield drops below 2%.
Yeppers, hyperinflation is right around the corner and the U.S. deficit is such a BIG problem that the USG has a hard time issuing debt. /s
cnbc doing a special tonight on repairing U.S. infrastructure. Better late than never. /s
Occupy Hendersonville NC
Photo: LRAD on a US Navy ship
More here.
I think the directional electromagnetic “fry” technology is really deplorable:
{ snip }
More here but I am suspecting even more sophisticated deployments.
Twain,
Good Morning to you as well. Yes, it is a very exciting day. Yes, they are doing the same all over the world.
I know what LRAD is, though blessedly I’ve never personally experienced it.
The Gray Lady covers OWS:
New York Times, City Room: Protesters and Officers Clash Near Wall Street and in Zuccotti Park
cnbc is clown central they should be on the comedy channel
LRAD is the sound cannon thing that can be used in crowd control
and has been in NYC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device
the tweet is satire
– oops, I see I am late to the party while I was typing
good source of live updates:
http://live.nydailynews.com/Event/Showdown_at_Zuccotti_Park_The_NYPDs_raid_on_Occupy_Wall_Street_NYC
How are you – is it cold there yet?
I am so envious of those wonderful people with Occupy and wish I could be there.
Wouldn’t use the stock market as any gauge of what the PTB think about OWS right now.
Occupy Los Angeles livestream
It has been cold and then hot again. We had tornados last night in the area which killed three people.
I was going to tell Scarecrow too that the thunder and lightening from yesterday may bring us an ice storm. 74 here yesterday and today…
52! The weather is so funky it remindes me of election day 2000. You’d think the Great Oz is behind the curtain trying to rain or freeze us out.
LS – Occupy LA
Police confining protesters to sidewalk on Figueroa Street
LS – Occupy LA
Announcing that they are going back to LA City Hall, reforming to march at 11:30am
There was a report by Tim Pool two days ago during his “TimCast” of NYC that an LRAD malfunction occurred when the police pointed the device at the demonstrators. He said that the police operators sustained injuries. I haven’t yet seen a confirmation on that but I really doubt the police will say anything. I have to do more searches to see if can find another mention elsewhere.
mzchief,
I’ve not paid much attention to tweets, so am not articulate about why I find it so despicable. Let me try out some analogies and see if I can put my finger on it.
Besides the Tourettes of being unable to stop oneself from spouting random meaningless sounds…
There’s also the pig Latin craze of my youth, which I thought was equally stupid.
Or clothes fashions, where mirrors are banned bc everyone decided they have to look the same way at the same time.
Or any craze.
None of those quite get it right, but they go a bit of the distance.
Also, one of the big problems I had (and still have) with blogs, on a more substantive basis, is how to evaluate the quality of the info. As for blogs over the years, I’ve tried to evaluate them for accuracy and evidence based considered opinions. They have a track record. Ditto commenters, though they are more difficult to evaluate.
How do you know that tweet you read has the slightest relationship to the truth.
I just don’t need to be that up-to-speed.* Even livestream shows only a small window on what is happening. I prefer to collect a lot of info before having opinions.
*Ditto stock prices on hour-to-hour, day-to-day movements. I remember the first oil price crisis, when Mobil’s stock price would be up $6 one day and down $8 the next. Naive person that I was then, and still am in that regard, I didn’t think that the ‘real’ (whatever that means) value of Mobil’s business was that volatile.
Good point.
eCAHNomics,
I was just going to say that MzChief’s tweet post was a copied satire, but I see that Martyln put it up for clarification.
I thought it was funny. That kid made it to Broadway and the LRAD machine announced her appearance.
I can understand your perspective.
Classic case of what you’re talking about:
The Occupy Baltimore media team is not together. The Twitter doesn’t know what the web page is doing.
Yes, I understood that too, although it took me awhile to figure it out.
“1:07 PMAnjali MullanySeveral of our reporters have provided details on a situation involving a Budget Truck and the NYPD a short while ago.
Rocco Parascandola reports that a cop jumped on the driver’s side step of a Budget Truck on Broadway off Pine.
As other cops ran behind the truck, the driver was forced to pull over.
The driver said he was Joshua Fellows of Youngstown, Ohio and that he was “transporting supplies.”
When asked if he was part of the protests, Fellows responded, “I plead the Fifth.”
A high-ranking source at the scene said there appeared to be locks, chains, and locking devices in the back of the Budget u-haul, which had Oklahoma plates.
Protesters and the National Lawyers Guild claimed to John Doyle that the truck was filled with tents.
At least one arrest was made at the scene. Jennifer Cunningham reports she witnessed a protester get maced and arrested after confronting a police officer who opened the truck.”
http://live.nydailynews.com/Event/Showdown_at_Zuccotti_Park_The_NYPDs_raid_on_Occupy_Wall_Street_NYC
My son is 19. We probably will have to helpsupport him into his early 20s though. Working 2 jobs he won’t even clear $20,000.
Oh and we’re not well to do. We’re solid middle income folks. My husband has to work to pay for groceries and whatnot , we aren’t living off “investments.” We’re likely in the upper category of middle income but definitely not living the privileged life aof a banker where he’s collect a golden parachute were he to be laid off.
iPhones are NOT $400, by the way. That’s just BS from BE. I have an iPhone, so I know.
Different strokes…
IMO Baltimore is a strategic #Occupy. More info at http://occupybmore.org/get-involved for We The Peeps to support them.
LOL! There are a few of us that have been watching those tweets for months now. It does take a little getting used to. The tweets are limited to 140 characters and it really makes for some crazy reading.
Another typical day in NYC’s financial district
yeah! kevin’s got a post up about her now with that interview. super.
LS Occupy LA
Joining up for march at 11:30 in support of unions.
Now that’s a picture that says 1000 words. Thanks for posting. Hopefully it will become one of the iconic images of these times.
OT
According to Mrs. Greenspan, Newt’s haul from Freddie is now up to $1.8 million. And she is actually talking about Newt’s hypocrisy.
Will wonders never cease.
Kevin posting above that within next hour should have new blog post up to cover “Occupy the Subways” and other afternoon / evening events.
I think we have been down this road but perhaps he should consider moving to a part of the country where there are better jobs?
My next reaction to that picture, tangentially related, is the image of walls. Israeli wall, walls separating neighborhoods in Baghdad (I saw some, but very few images of those; U.S. military sent out the order to keep those off the MSM), gated communities in the U.S.
Walls symbolize system failure, just as that collection of cops guarding the ‘heart of capitalism’ symbolizes its failure.
Oh god, it’s back to spew more inanities. Sure, just move. Not that moving costs a crap ton of money, there’s no manufacturing base, there are 30 applicants for every job (even shitty McJobs that don’t pay a living wage), and it’s kind of hard to move if you’re already unemployed and scraping by on what savings you have.
DERP.
Where would that be?
Occupythomhartmann this morning: Thom has apparently been shipped off to Syria for repeating several times yesterday ‘This is what a revolution looks like’ with appreciation to Chris Hedges. Instead, this morning we have David Sirota who thinks that Chelsea Clinton and ‘Is pizza a vegetable?’ with screened calls, not to mention the Happy Meal thrown in for good measure are the really important issues of the day. Way to go, Dave; heckava job! (Maybe Dave is being ironic; nothing personal, guy! – Nah, he sounds insulted by some pushback tweets. You are dumbing us down, Dave, why not just publicly abandon your microphone. Now THAT would be appropriate. Don’t even DO their bidding.)
To my way of thinking, this indicates the folks (not people) in charge of what we hear on the radio are scared stiff of OWS. They doth (not) protest too much! Keep on keeping on, people – you are the people!
When will you understand? THERE ARE NO JOBS.
Probably not Southwest Virgina.
My firm is looking for an office manager in LA. Pay is 50K + benefits. Interested?
Yes. No jobs….
http://www.indeed.com
Tee-Hee! Judge Judy says that some people get by a light tap on the shoulder. Others, you got to hit them with a 2 x 4 to get into their head.
Nowadays you can pick up smartphones for nothing if you’re willing to sign a contract to purchase a data plan for the phone number for 2 years. They figure they’ll recoup the money through the $40 a month fee for data plan service. Even after the 2 years is up it costs you $10 extra month if you don’t want the data plan for them to “block access.”
What does a 19 yr old kid have that is so difficult to move?
Check out the electronic devices on the citified utility pole. It’s not just for controlling the lights.
Sure. Do they pay moving costs and apartment rental while I search for a place? Oh yeah, and do I get a living wage salary raise after 90 days? Who can live in LA on 50K?
Heh, join with your neighbors & get aboard the covered wagons.
U.S. history rarely relates how many of those in the wagon trains died, or other serious casualties. But the myth lives that if they did it, so can you.
After all, death is a small price to pay for survival.
Why do you think they were occupying Wall Street? That’s the part of the country that has those better jobs. Everywhere else sux.
And where would such a person live? Can someone from Occupy LA apply?
From Occupy Portland live stream …
Two new chants introduced today within the last 20 minute:
“The people are rising, no more compromising!”
“Unemployment in foreclosure, occupy ’til it’s over!”
Instructions for those risking arrest and in chant form now dispensed:
“I do not consent to the search. I do not trust the cops.”
Interview with demonstrator who does not support Police Chief Mike Reese to now also become Mayor (yep, police chief doesn’t have to step down to be mayor).
millions of people are living in L.A. making under 50k. But keep the excuses coming, says all we need to know about you.
Hey! I need a job. Give me their web address and I will apply now.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/apa/2666335547.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/apa/2702062321.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/apa/2707412859.html
internet is your friend. Though if you can’t figure out how to use the www then perhaps this job isn’t a great fit for you.
The thingy that looks like a window air conditioner?
“a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest..” Lalala.
First off, we’re in the economically healthier part of the country.
Nationally, Virginia has a better employment rate than most.
Second off, your comment is steeped in stupidity. He makes LESS THAN $20,000 a year. The idea he should leave the 2 jobs he already has to strike off to parts unknown and have no safety net whatsoever is ridiculously stupid. Here he has a roof over his head. Somewhere else he’d have to pay for that roof. Here if his hours get cut he has access to food. Somewhere else? Who the heck knows. Transportation? He’d have to purchase that with his savings. Who even knows if he’d be able to find other jobs. Most importantly here he has the opportunity to save rather than put himself up to his neck in debt. He’s fortunate and he’s more than aware of that. Furthermore, his father and I are grateful that we can do this for him. We know that we work hard but we also are aware that there is a large element of luck to life. So is he.
Police not allowing anybody to leave Zuccotti. Nice that they can respect the freedom of assembly to petition the government for redress of grievances. Rock on,n NYPD.
There must be something really wrong in your life because you are so full of hate and rage. Not a bit of empathy or pity. Take it somewhere else.
if you are serious and its a position you would be interested in then give me your email and I’ll reach out to you for a resume.
yes, trying to help people find good jobs. What an asshole.
Truthfully, I saw this breakdown coming a couple of weeks ago, and there are many factors that went into that prediction. The prediction is playing out exactly as I envisioned it, so you are somewhat justified in saying it’s not breaking down solely due to Wall Street’s fears of OWS. But, the present state of emotion does contribute something to the downmove. If the police start breaking heads, the market will rally. FWIW, I just got out of my position with a nice profit. The easy money has been made for the day, I think. At least the part that’s easy for me to predict.
You will please address me by my proper name – assholeette.
That is the key. No Debt!
I tell ya, the bankstas are laughing and having a happy time knowing that people have to buy their groceries on credit. A trip to the grocer that costs $150.00 ends up costing the poor soul 9 times that much.
Oh, Great! Are you at work now?
NYSE Today
The United States of Invensense.
There’s an almost 1:1 ratio peeps to police at Z park. Ustream
Re US:
Re Canada:
Re Israel:
I love Twain.
Yes, VA is better which is why it sounds like he is thriving. I’m trying to help him get a salaried position with benefits offering more than 2x his current annual income despite the fact that he doesn’t have a college education.
Yes, and you have no idea how much I do too. That moniker ain’t for naught!
Re Zuccotti Park, NYC (sorry, not Toronto, ON, CA):
Arrests going down … 26,547 viewers now.
Just an old broad with attitude.
Yeah, I had to correct someone a couple of days ago, but informed him I was dudette, not dude; a little more polite.
We senior women get no respect.
wtf are they being arrested for? What’s the charge? They’re peacefully assembling in the park, no camping gear, in accordance.
Now they’re still being arrested?
Time for a general nationwide strike to paralyze the powers that be and their money streams.
This is absolutely amazing! How is this legal?!
WORD! They don’t have that many police and if they use hired mercs, it’s all over for them.
I join you in not being a twitterer (or a u-tube or facebook for that matter). But your post gives me the opportunity to praise FDL quite selfishly for preserving my sanity, blood pressure, faith in mankind – all of the above. Just to know that people are doing what they can where they are able gives me the sense that when it all comes down around our ears many among us will already be on the right track. The importance of knowing what is really happening, rather than being fed pablum so we simply keel over as the edifice crumbles – that is treasure indeed.
It rather reminds me at this point of how one makes the attempt to survive a tsunami, in concert with others, or individually, and the record of all of it is here. Even a record of bitterness, but more and more that isolates itself and can be scrolled beyond.
I think the helmeted and the baton wielding will be more and more worn down as the festive seasons approach and true festivity among the demonstrators crumbles the resolve of the oppressors. Rather than being a harsh season to diminish will, true celebration can ensue, even starting next week with Thanksgiving. I trust in the creativity of our young people to restore the true meaning to all these holidays in celebration of harvest, in celebration of solstice, of faith, of restoration of light. For, in my calendar, winter only lasts until December 21 – after that it is spring because the light increases and the first stirrings of life in the ground begin.
We are almost there!
Are you really interested in the job or no?
I saw that. It always amazes me that people forget that there are strong and opinionated women too.
Represent!
I agree. Spring and summer are going to be tough on the boys in blue – I think thousands and thousands will be in the streets then and Jane and Kevin will be distributing hot weather clothing.
Re Zuccotti Park, NYC:
Lives stream operator behind a barricade can’t move and has no zoom so can’t get up closed to see all the police are doing to Brendan (aka “Romania”). Reporting that the police have a camera on Brendan and doing what looks like in-situ interrogation. Brendan got batoned; MSNBC apparently cover this now. No one know why Brendan was hit. The live stream camera operator showed a photo of Brendan with hair drenched with blood.
There’s a drum circle, so that’s a citable offense now. But the whole park isn’t drumming.
We all draw strength from having the ability to associate here with the best quality people. And you definitely deserve some of the credit for that.
Re Zuccotti Park, NYC (a slight time delay in my post):
YES! However, I need to know if you will be using my email address at work or at home. So, are you currently on the job?
if your comfortable sending your work address fine but I would strongly suggest using a home address.
LS blood on ground.
LS: More than one entrance an exit at Zuccotti now.
Injured guy was tackled from behind by police.
Re: Zucotti Park
LS: things calming down.
It’s a thoughtful offer. I’ll pass it on to him. It’d be helpful to mention what field of work he’d be looking at though. However, I won’t be encouraging him to pursue it(nothing personal). Setting up a household takes time and money and a million things can go wrong and he’d not have a community he’s familiar with to help him navigate that.
Hopefully you can find someone who will fill that slot though. Lord only knows there are tons out there looking for a stable position.
Send it to Jon, Ryan, or Brian at FDL. They can forward it to me. I am not at work cause I don’t have a job. I was asking you if you are at work.
LS: guy kicked barricades, police chased him down and tackled.
Agree about FDL.
I wouldn’t be hanging out here today, while watching coverage on MSM, if I weren’t interested in what’s happening and how it is covered. I don’t have to read the tweets on this thread.
Hadn’t thought about the holidaze in Manhattan, but they are all about shopping. OWS could provoke the cops into really disrupting the profit season, and do it in a very classy way, like carrying battery op candles, dressing in Bethlehem style clothing, and doing NT readings thru human mic in Midtown. Think of all the police in riot gear it would take to put down such a dangerous demonstration. And how much they would block the stores.
Hey you! Who you calling opinionated! LOL.
very adult and mature of you.
“The 99% Deficit Proposal Published” | WarIsACrime.Org, By davidswanson – Posted on 17 November 2011
Occupy Portland livestream
Great idea. Even NYPD might hesitate to arrest someone dressed like Biblical figures – or maybe not.
WTF!!! police are blocking people inside the park, is that false imprisonment
I thought they were okay to be in the park – just no tents or sleeping. What happened to change that?
nyclu NYCLU
please verify: guy rode bike into park, not allowed. police chased him and beat him down. #occupywallstreet #ows #n17 #dayofaction
2 minutes ago
The police are beginning to enjoy this, I think. Makes their day to spill some blood.
Have I told you yet today that I love you?
Zuccotti Park, NYC live stream operator still trying to gather eye witness, filmed interviews on what happened to Brendan as it’s not totally clear yet. Now a report of undercover police identified on-site and leaving after detection.
nyclu NYCLU
update our earlier report about a copy with a hand injury: a cop was cut on the left hand by a thrown glass object. #occupywallstreet #ows
3 minutes ago
Or, perhaps they’ll have the crosses mass manufactured in advance. And stocked on the steps of St. Pat’s.
Thank you. I am an adult and mature in my 50′s. I don’t think sharing my personal email address on this much watched venue today would be smart. However, a business email to apply for a job is nothing. It is the way commerce is done.
Korgasm_ K
Birdseye view of NYPD riot cops at #LibertyPark #N17 #ows twitpic.com/7fgk1y
9 minutes ago
https://twitpic.com/7fgk1y
What would a Jebus impersonator do?
For the record BackEast, the area we are in was just rated as the best city to raise a child in.
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/virginia-town-is-best-place-in-the-us-to-raise-kids-11152011.html
We’re rated number #43 for best places to live in the US.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/fsb/0803/gallery.best_places_to_launch.fsb/43.html
While we are in Appalachia, the area we chose for our family was chosen because of it’s potential. The area recently acquired a deal with Backcountry retailer for a distribution center. We’re also getting an railroad intermodal(this will mean 12 additional union jobs) which will likely improve job prospects for area residents.
Thanks. I love you back. How’s Occupy Sac going?
JoshuaHol Joshua Holland
Conflicting reports about what prompted police rush into Zuccotti. May have just been a protester kicking at the barriers. #OWS #N17
5 minutes ago
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NYCLU
nyclu NYCLU
waiting for video of protester known as “Romania” who was bloodied while being arrested at zp #occupywallstreet #ows #dayofaction #n17
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Lucy Kafanov
LucyKafanov Lucy Kafanov
#OWS #N17: Speaker at #Zuccotti urging crowd to stay peaceful regardless of police actions. A lot of protesters seem angry
5 minutes ago
How many Moses costumes can we put together quickly?
“Let My People Go!”
LMAO comeback of the day. *g*
ruthjschultz Ruth Schultz
#occupydsm activists to file charges against @bankofamerica for illegally shutting them inside the bank #N17 #occupywallst
4 minutes ago
I haven’t been down there for about four days. Last time I was, they looked really tired. But they are carrying on.
That looks like it was taken from 115 Bway, the NW corner of the building.
nyclu NYCLU
More than 100 riot cops going up on Brooklyn Bridge. Expecting trouble here #occupywallstreet #ows #dayofaction #n17
4 minutes ago
I’m pretty skeptical of anything OT. Much prefer to stick with the more peaceful message of teh NT. Reading gospels on nativity via human mic would be pretty interesting, I think.
12? wow you don’t say.
I’ve been to Blacksburg when I was looking at VaTech and it is no doubt a beautiful area of the country. That said, if I wasn’t working for the University I would probably look elsewhere to grow a career.
OccupyChicago Occupy Chicago
RT @RT_com: Fierce clashes, firebombs as thousands flood Athens on.rt.com/s1i2tu
3 minutes ago
http://rt.com/news/greek-protests-austerity-papademos-607/
“Some 7,000 police were deployed as more than 30,000 protestors filled the streets of Athens Thursday to protest against step austerity measures as Greece teeters on the brink of collapse. “
Zuccotti peeps starting to march to Union Square
Normally, I would agree. But Moses is cross faith. Jesus is only for Christians. With Moses, Jews and Gentiles alike will recognize.
This is a GREAT idea! Kudos! For those who tweet, please tweet it everywhere.
Fixed your source for them.
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Zuccotti Park, NYC live stream operator just interviewed press person who showed his NYPD-issued press pass (clear shot) and was just told by NYPD that it is invalid and that he can’t enter the barricaded area.
Then an interview with Luke Rudkowski (founder, WeAreChange.Org) talking about being just assaulted by an undercover cop he filmed jumping over the barricade from within the cordoned-off area. Luke showed a photo of the white male (30s, dark hair, street clothes) in question. Any photos or videos of that person’s activities, Luke wants Tweets with links to photo and video footage ASAP.
This Zuccotti Park, NYC live stream again is and has “Video,” “Social Stream and “Chat.”
CNN about to have another guest on to talk about OWS.
Tsk. Double tsk for tossing glass as reported on some tweets.
LucyKafanov Lucy Kafanov
#OWS #N17: for all the unprovoked acts of police brutality today many officers were also kind & courteous. Went out of way to help me film
7 minutes ago
eyewitnesses said 8 cops tackled him from behind. brought him down to the pavement, were kicking him, ripped off his pants and dragged him away. they described a big bloody area on his head. Brandon Rumania? his name. Tim Pool on LS showed the boot and blood on the ground. he’d been pushing the barricades with out with his foot.
It is Sally Kohn. She says OWS is just getting started.
Good for her for getting the badge number. Did it get videoed?
If this turns out to be true, all heck will break loose.
OWS NYC: Dicey Troop: Report from OWS librarian
The oldest is looking at pursuing a field in education. As far as I can see this place is perfect for him in that respect. I’ve looked at the demographics and many of the jobs here are in education. As a matter of fact education has a plurality in the area.
The addition of that intermodal will mean more than 12 jobs. The state is footing the bill for 70% of it because they believe it will increase the chances that more business like Backcountry will be looking to set up shop here as a result of it.
Virginia Tech has an incredible engineering department and the tech savvy will also mean that businesses that move here would have first crack at that tech savvy workforce.
Nope, overall if anything I worry that this place will become more citified. I like the small town charm.
This had to happen. The situation was too static to hold. Although I hate the pain and worry that the Occupy group is going through the next step has now been taken and it will change attitudes quite a bit IMO.
OccupyTheHouse Occupy The House
#teaparty is astroturf, #OWS is the real deal. motherjones.com/mojo/2011/11/t…
Visualization of Twitter data shows this.
13 minutes ago
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/11/tweet-forensics-occupy-v-tea-party
PWeiskel08 Paul Weiskel
Just saw a guy marching with us who couldn’t make it to work on wall street. #ows #n17
12 minutes ago
DhaniBagels Dhani Bagels
“Arrest one of us, and 2 more will appear” ~ Sign on #ows march! #n17
3 minutes ago
Korgasm_ K
I’m live on Ustream! Check out my show: ustre.am/EXvZ
2:51 PM EST
4 minutes ago
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/korgasm#utm_campaign=t.co&utm_source=9761899&utm_medium=social
SabzBrach Joanne Michele
RT @OccupyWallSt: Around a thousand headed from #LibertySquare to #Lunch at Union Square. #N17 #OWS
3 minutes ago
ANIMALNewYork ANIMALNewYork
Some of the protesters are breaking off & going to City Hall while another group is continuing north on Broadway towards Union Square #ows
One group marching to City Hall now.
Re Occupy DC:
I hope that is not true.
Kevin’s afternoon post up; commenting to continue there as too many comments here already.
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2011/11/17/live-blog-for-occupy-movement-occupy-the-subways-brooklyn-bridge-march-unfolds/
Re the The Other 99 live stream:
LS operator discussing conflicting reports about what NYPD Technical Assistance Response Unit (TARU) is supposed to do re their video taping activities, what they actually do with the video taping activities and why.
LS operator walking just off Canal Street with demonstrators to Union Square.
Re The Other 99 live stream:
Feeder march from Zuccotti Park to Union Square continues down Broadway.
Chanting: “Out of the buildings, into the streets!” then “Banks got bailed out, we got sold out”
Images of police in dark long weather coats and helmets with face plates up walking along side demonstrators.
From Russia Today producer Lucy Kafanov :
Big style points for the red-headed female singer in a cranberry top (time point 0:17).
“7 Occupations That Changed US History” | AlterNet / By Arun Gupta, Nov. 14, 2011
Re Occupy Portland, OR (pointer to the live stream below):
Screen text crawl says Portland Police threatening to use chemical and impact weapons. I am looking for photos and videos.
Apparently the greatest viewer activity across international #Occupy-ae right now is on NYC (you can select one to watch at http://occupystreams.org ).
Re NYC:
FYI … I continue to cruise right past the Trollsville NSFW insults on Tim Pool’s live stream page as I do routinely on the larger city chat and Twitter streams including that for #Occupy Portland.
Noise-to-signal ratio a bit higher in the last few days …
Follow-up on the video Luke had mentioned he would upload:
Someone else had the same question: