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From early this morning to now, Occupy Wall Street has been out demonstrating as close to the New York Stock Exchange as they could get and then in Liberty Square later in the morning. The action has been a part of November 17, a massive day of international action. In Los Angeles, Dallas, Portland and Athens, Greece, there has been major activity.
Every hour there have been arrests. Every hour it seems like there has been some kind of police scuffle with protesters. Every police scuffle it seems force has been used and brutality has happened. [The video below is fairly representative of how police have handled demonstrators thus far. And, for a recap of the action, here is the live blog from the morning.]
Firedoglake’s premier live blog resumes now. It will be tracking the “Occupy the Subways” action closely along with any march across the Brooklyn Bridge or to Union Square, etc. These are the specific plans (via OccupyWallSt.org):
3:00pm — Occupy the Subways
We will gather at 3:00pm at 16 central subway hubs and take our own stories to the trains, using the “People’s Mic”. Details here.5:00pm — Take the Square, Festival of Lights on Brooklyn Bridge
At 5:00pm thousands will gather at Foley Square in solidarity with laborers demanding jobs to rebuild this country’s infrastructure and economy. They will encircle City Hall and march across the Brooklyn Bridge, carrying thousands of handheld lights, as a festival of lights to celebrate two months of a new movement to reclaim our democracy.
Here is a Twitter list to follow for the latest news on the day of action.
9:35 PM The police seem to routinely grab people’s hair when making arrests, especially if you are a female.
9:34 PM ICYMI: Karl Rove was mic checked by Occupy Baltimore at a recent speaking event
9:18 PM Former police captain Ray Lewis has message for NYPD and thinks they should not be Wall Street mercenaries. Lewis was arrested earlier today. (video)
9:12 PM Photo from The Oregonian of protester being pepper sprayed. It is another visceral image.
7:40 PM Occupy LA tried to expand into another site. The site is owned by Brookfield Properties, which also owns Liberty Square. The police have surrounded this area and demonstrators are on the perimeter watching as riot police evict occupiers and take down tents that were put up in what I think is the Bank of America Plaza. [Watch live stream here.]
7:38 PM Occupy Supply has raised over $105,000 to go toward donations to occupations all over the United States [Glenn Greenwald's post about the campaign.]
7:16 PM Journalist Faith Laugier who was violently arrested during the day of action.
6:48 PM Earlier, @MacedbyNYPD this photo was taken of projection on supreme court building
6:38 PM Meet the squad of goons and shills Brookfield Properties now has in the park doing “security” in Liberty Park
6:33 PM Another livestream shows occupiers trying to get to the Brooklyn Bridge right now.
6:28 PM Union leaders and city council members coordinate action with police—99 of them to show solidarity with the 99%. Press cover and NYPD on best behavior. This is coordinated and planned in advance and happens before all the marchers leaving Foley Square reach the Brooklyn Bridge
6:19 PM Nearly a thousand turn out for Occupy Boston march to Charlestown Bridge
6:17 PM Arrests on Market Street bridge in Philadelphia begin (via @DustinSlaughter)
6:12 PM
6:06 PM @alaskakee has photo of sound cannon at base of Brooklyn Bridge
Unions supposedly have leaders headed to Brooklyn Bridge now.
5:47 PM NYPD could learn something from CPD. Commander/officers are asking individuals occupying LaSalle Street bridge in Chicago to move or be arrested. They are giving them a clear opportunity to commit civil disobedience or not.
5:36 PM There are “bridge actions” happening all over the country. SEIU is pushing this kind of activism. Here is what looks like a roundup on the day’s action so far.
Right now, there is an action at Market St in Philadelphia.
Occupy Chicago has taken over the LaSalle Street bridge just before rush hour is to begin (via @beckyjw11)
5:24 PM Scene is unfolding now at The New School. Occupiers are in the building. The administration of the school is supportive. However, police are blocking the entrance. There is a group that is hanging behind to support those inside the building.
5:16 PM @NBCNewYork reports ”Chopper 4 just told by NYPD to move — they are closing airspace over protests.” Probably not a good sign. Part of city obstructing media from covering protests. The good thing is all of this coverage of the Occupy movement is something Americans are interested in following, whether sympathetic or not. News organizations would be foolish to not invest resources in coverage.
5:12 PM “Bloomberg, beware! Zuccotti Park is everywhere!” occupiers chant as they march from Union Square to Foley Square
5:11 PM Report that New School security asked cops to leave. Occupation can last indefinitely, the New School president said. (Cops were blocking entrance to New School.)
5:10 PM March is going to join unions at Foley Square. The square is now full. Thousands of people are in this march, which is split in two.
4:32 PM Officers gave an order to disperse to student march from Union Square to Foley Square. Arrests seemed likely. Large police force. But, march is moving down Broadway on two-month anniversary of the beginning of OWS. (Vide0)
4:14 PM Now march from Union Square headed to Foley Square. People are marching down the street.
4:10 PM Mayor Michael Bloomberg and NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly appear at press conference. They talk about supposed injuries to cops during protests. They completely ignore or overlook injuries to protesters. Also, Bloomberg goes to great lengths to emphasize how city was not shut down. Business as usual was able to happen in the city. He also emphasizes the fact that it is hard to tell how many protesters were in Manhattan today. He says barely a thousand, if that, demonstrated. He really works to downplay the numbers and goes so far as to say he doesn’t think many people will be out for evening protests at all.
3:52 PM From student rally @TheOther99:
3:45 PM LAPD riot squad headed to Occupy LA (via @OccupyLA)
3:38 PM More than 170 arrests today (via @OccupyArrests). Here is a spreadsheet that shows all the arrests that have happened cumulatively at each occupation during the movement so far.
3:30 PM
3:22 PM From earlier, police beat and bloody a protester. Blood drips on the ground.
3:17 PM Students are rallying in Union Square now. Speeches are being given. Focus is on cost of tuition, student dependence on internships, unemployment, etc
3:14 PM Occupy DC marches into Georgetown – video
3:06 PM A reporter for The Daily Caller was beaten by NYPD and then helped by protesters. Think Progress has posted a report.
3:00 PM Firsthand account of police violence at Liberty Park from member of the OWS Library
2:52 PM Plan is to meet at Foley Square at 5 pm to retake “our bridges”—rally there will try to take off across Brooklyn Bridge.
2:49 PM This is a list of hubs where people will be meeting for Occupy the Subways.
2:40 PM Photo of protester bloodied by NYPD
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Kelly and Bloomie have folks kettled, ironically, at Zuccotti — but the main group of protesters is coming in from the ‘burbs and are proceeding to the subways and Foley while the NYPD busies itself with beating up journalists — even right-wing ones.
Currently there is one group marching to City Hall. Just confirmed via livestream and twitter.
Photo of woman in wheelchair, obviously a dangerous criminal, who NYPD tried to arrest. (They couldn’t figure out how to transport her, so they let her off with a citation.)
I can’t stop singing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wos-dDxpJlQ&feature=grec_index
link takes me to something at The Nation. ??
Aaaaaand it looks like the NYPD has LRAD:
http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/honduras-comes-home/
Try here: http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/honduras-comes-home/
Anyone who beats up right-wing journalists needs to be judged gently.
LOL
Woohooooo! It starts, it starts!
Scuttlebutt is that the blue-shirted rank and file NYPD are getting sick and tired of being deployed as Bloomberg and Kelly’s palace guard. We may see cop-on-cop action before too long.
Does anyone else besides myself think it’s strange that OWS, which for weeks quietly organized in the Park, had visits to the wealthy, took in the homeless, threw paper airplanes at one of the major banks, etc. is now in this confrontation mode today with the NYPD? I support the movement 100% – gave donations and supplies, but it does seem out of character for the movement to be this confrontational…they must have known there would be a huge police presence. Thoughts?
Occupy The Subways – 3:00 p.m.
We will start by Occupying Our Blocks! Then throughout the five boroughs, we will gather at 16 central subway hubs and take our own stories to the trains, using the “People’s Mic”.
Bronx
Fordham Rd
3rd Ave, 138th Street
163rd and Southern Blvd
161st and River – Yankee Stadium
Brooklyn
Broadway Junction
Borough Hall
301 Grove Street
St Jose Patron Church,185 Suydam St, Bushwick
Queens
Jackson Heights/Roosevelt Ave.
Jamaica Center/Parsons/Archer
92-10 Roosevelt Avenue, Jackson Heights
Manhattan
125th St. A,B,C,D
Union Sq. (Mass student strike)
23rd St and 8th Ave
Staten Island
St. George, Staten Island Ferry Terminal
479 Port Richmond Avenue, Port Richmond
http://occupywallst.org/action/november-17th/
The ‘animals’ have escaped the zoo. Oy vey. /s
Denver WestWord: Occupy Denver: Laywer David Lane to seek federal injunction against Denver police
Was discussing this with someone just yesterday. It had to happen. Had to. As that great sign said “The beginning is near.” Well, I think it’s here.
Ya got it backward. It’s not the movement that’s confrontational with the cops…
Who raided ZP?
From what I have seen and read they have not become confrontational. The attack that caused blood in the streets was because somebody kicked at a barricade and the Police went Postal. The cops are the only violent and destructive people there. Oh, and the poo in the streets is from their horses.
Details, where did you hear this?
why are they occupying the subways? average pay workers use them. Will this not turn them against OWS
What do you mena OWS is being confrontational? They are being assaulted for being in a park they were told –by a judge– they could bein 24/7.
They are being assaulted for wwalking on the sidewalk.
They are being non violent in the face of violence.
Occupy Columbia MO
Anyone got an update on Occupy Dallas?
Last night @ 11pm Left Coast some reports came in they were raided, hard. But then, no stream and no further info I’ve seen in the usual places I read . . . ?
Right out of MLK’s strategy – and it works.
Protesting and protest gets messy, missy . . . shit happens and the greater good sometimes subordinates the inconvenienced.
The plan is to make a presence in them, not to shut them down. Ton of people travel through subways, most of NYC does not go through Zuccotti Park, some may never go down there. I think the idea is it helps them reach people better, where as even much of NYC knows OWS through the media as, like I just said, they don’t venture down to Zuccotti Park.
Anyway, the mayor, NYPD, and therefore corporate media, have been inaccurately reporting that the plan is to shut down the subways, which is false. That doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but if it does, it’ll be due to NYPD/DHS over reaction.
At the risk of being labeled somewhat all too encompassing in my fingert pointing, I’ll just say that given the masses of PRO Occupy who come to FDL/MyFDL, the likelihood that ANY concern trollers would NOT be paid operatives is minimal.
So, don’t feed ‘em . . . the scripts are outdated, we all know their patterns, they are greatly outnumbered online and in the streets.
*G*
Thanks for all your work Mz. K . . .
Outreach, and it is not a shut down. They have repeated that many times and said that was Mayor Bloomies on fire lie to the press.
Union Square–waiting for folks from Zucotti Park
They don’t plan to shut them down, but to have people tell their stories, sort of a live action version of the We are the 99% tumblr blog:
http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
From The Gothamist:
http://gothamist.com/2011/11/16/tomorrow_occupy_wall_street_to_shut.php
For Occupy the Subway, demonstrators plan to stand outside the 16 different subway hubs and use the people’s mic to have victims of the financial crisis from each borough of the city tell their stories. Afterwards, they will then take their message underground, speaking in the trains, and distributing comics that depict those stories, along with the details of the 5:00 rally at Foley Square. The MTA’s Aaron Donovan tells us, “We will be monitoring conditions and working closely with the NYPD to maintain a safe and secure environment for our riders.”
You are probably right, but it was heartening to see how fast sane people lept to set record straight
MSM now talking about the Sooper Con-mittee and how they are grid locked just days before their deadline.
Hmm. You think they are thinking about the people in the streets?
Pic outside Standard Insurance
They are taking their message to the 99 percent that rides the trains. They have no intention of shutting down the train service. If that happens, it is NYPD’s fault or the city’s fault, not occupiers. All occupiers want to do is pay to ride subway and talk to New Yorkers.
I’m surprised the police didn’t dump the wheelchair woman onto the street and club her senseless. And where is the Abomination on all this, while his citizens are being denied their rights and brutalized? Why he’s in Australia warmongering against China, and just before that giving away our jobs in yet another ‘free’ trade agreement. What a guy.
My last couple of forays into Manhattan subways (very rare since I now live upstate) I have encountered noncrowded platforms during the nonrush hours. If that’s accurate, then you are right about OWS reaching real people. And if police decide to make a big presence there, then it will be totally obvious that it is the cops who are causing disruptions, not OWS.
No.
I still think that when anyone inside the Beltway is asked about OWS, the response is: What’s OWS?
Yep. Like the three monkey trio: See No, Hear No, Speak No.
OT – I just had to say this – Jack Abramoff accused Newt of corruption! I’m going to enjoy that for weeks.
This live blog has 164 tweets! I just started updating about an hour ago.
Occupy San Diego livestream
Yep. Sometimes it’s worth getting out of bed.
WHOOP!
Go, Kevin. The next best investigative journalist!
Power to the People, Right On!
None of that backyard camping, eh? Or just a little hyperbole?
Protect the slave-owners????????????????
Might surprise the heck out of the Boy Scouts.
I’ve been enjoying it all day. Abramoff’s become quite the reformer in his new incarnation, but to those of us who watched his other side for so long, the apparent turnaround is doubly delicious.
Uh-Oh. Bond buying up for Spain, Dow going down.
There are all kinds of tents set up for private purposes at different times in Manhattan. Like farmers’ market in Union Square, that I think assembles 3X/week. Not up overnight, though.
So a no tents ruling is selective enforcement.
LS Occupy San Diego
SDPD are being crossing guards for the protesters. There is a long line of them because they are confined to the sidewalks. Crossing cross streets takes a while.
A guy in a Mercedes got really bent out of shape and was leaning on his horn and gesturing at them
My understanding is that they intend to do educational outreach actions about their purpose.
Indeed!
Point well taken, ma’am . . .
LS Occupy San Diego
Now at courthouse. Good sized crowd. All ages. Kids. A couple of baby strollers. Elderly.
So, once again, any info on Occupy Dallas about last night?
Try crossing the Macy’s parade route. Not a long line at each cross street, to be sure, but crowds on sidewalks very very very large. Cops facilitate both cars & pedestrians crossing.
Gee, dya think it can be done, and peasfully? Under extreme circumstances, too.
OMG! Need a good laugh? They don’t even know that there is an OWS-DC!
Steve Forbes, the real Pimp saying, “It’s hard out here”.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/steve-forbes-wall-street-protesters-occupy-congress-instead-182232426.html
Going to protest at the Republican National Convention in Tampa.
Look what’s waiting for you.
Tampa PD’s new toy
Slaves wanted freedom. Slave-owners purchased fugitive slave laws, from the US Congress, protecting their business model, an agrarian society enabled by slave labor. So how much money did Americans give back to that 1/10 of 1%,, while purchasing fuel to go to work? Americans want opportunity. Instead we get economically leveraged via bought law.
Let’s hope no camping applies to black friday shopaholics at Wal Mart.
https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23occupydallas
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A small group of protestors assembling in back of city hall where #OccupyDallas tents once stood
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Heading back to City Hall for #occupydallas press conference
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#tcot #GOP #Occupy #OccupyDallas #anarchy #terrorism #politics
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https://occupyca.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/occupycal-encampment-raided/
While we been watching NYC, Berkeley got raided and camp demolished.
Doesn’t quite paint the whole story I’m looking for, but confirms they WERE raided, which I knew.
Thanks . . . I’ll wait till there’s a full story to learn I guess.
There’s a subtext going on here, not by every commenter to be sure, and much more prevalent in the media, that people’s regular routines are allowed to be interrupted by state sanctioned events, but not by people’s events.
Debunking that is what several of my comments have been about.
So occupying subways is a people’s event, which is unlikely to be very disruptive if officials leave the OWSers alone, but why should some minor inconvenience, if it does occur, be a consideration. I rode the subways every day back in the times when there was no a/c and trains would get stuck for long periods of time bc of bad maintenance resulting in breakdowns.
This is the latest:
About last night:
Heh. Unlikely.
LS Occupy San Diego
Protest is an action against ICE
RT @AnonyOps: NYC Deputy Mayor says the press does not have the right to report in vicinity of police operations. http://bit.ly/rBeYS4 #ows
The Peoples’ Drone.
That would make for an interesting direct action.
Oh yes, hadn’t thought of it that way.
Seriously! A Tank!
Somebody in the Police and Security field has major mental problems.
NYDN is reporting that 200 cops have worked at least 24 hours straight from Wed into Thursday and that an announciment just went over the PA system at One Police Plaza (NYPD HQ) that anyone comming on shift at 4PM should assemble in lobby in riot gear.
Why is PBA allowing its members to be worked to death? Farm animals are treated better. There is no emergency that requires your memebers to suffer the elevated blood pressure that comes with sleep deprivation.
When are you going to demand safe working conditions?
You’re right very similar to slavery. Hit the nail on the head.
How much do those things cost? Could we do a special collection at FDL to buy one?
Occupy Atlanta speak-out at Georgia State University
I agree the state shuts down the city often for its pomp shows. I think OWS should take it message far and wide just worried the media will spin it to divide the people. these are the only tricks they know to use. I think many are getting wise to this
What will be the response I wonder, of the gun toting, TPers, seeing this thing rolling down their streets??? Maybe a major wake up call??
We need some of those! Shouldn’t be too hard to make.
Occupy Wall Street – Union Square
Perhaps it’s a deliberate attempt to make the police officers grumpy and less able to respond in a clear rational way… tired grumpy people are more likely to lash out at others.
Then of course those in charge will try to pin the ensuing violence on the demonstrators.
Here’s a DIY site!
See @ 89.
Is that tank seriously crazy-making, or what? Sure doesn’t look like democracy.
#LOL– RFTC: Drones fly above 2011 Portland Pirate Festival (Sep 14, 2011)
Yaaaarrrrr!
hyperbole?
Agree. More and more people are coming to see the game of keeping people divided and hating on somebody. If we were all together as citizens and working for the best of this country, none of this bullshit would be happening in DC, the banks, and our real economy. DC thinks the real economy is whatever Wall Street and Corporate heads think.
I agree completely that the media are in the pocket of 1%ers, so will portray 99ers in worst possible light. I’m just starting here as a way of ‘purging’ our minds from the way we been drilled to think about the world from the 1%ers POV. Such habits of thought are deeply embedded and subconscious, so hard to identify and rethink.
Oh, Lawd have Mercy!
I don’t wanna think about a bunch of red necks with their guns in the truck spotting that on the way to town for beer.
Sheesh! Talk about the wild west; it would be combat brick time!
Nice sized crowd.
Can you put a camera on a paper airplane?
Hilarious! Many thnx.
Nah, just an extra dose of Viagara or Cialis.
Any one that can id the make, model and manufacturer, step right up.
The US media, though covering OWS, is conveniently missing major demonstrations in Italy, Athens, and Spain today: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062731/Italy-protests-Students-clash-riot-police-demo-budget-cuts-government.html
“RT @AnonyOps: NYC Deputy Mayor says the press does not have the right to report in vicinity of police operations. http://bit.ly/rBeYS4 #ows”
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Yeah. That was the image I got. It won’t be pretty should said red-necks get a load of this one, before or after the beers. Dangerous.
LS OWS-NYC
Police are shoving media around and setting up Jersey barriers to block the march.
Man in a hoodie and mask knocked over barricades and NYPD swarmed him back in the crowd.
Noooo!
They wouldn’t need those little pills. The testosterone will rise like the candy thermometer. It would be like a 47 point buck in the woods. I know them, I know how they react.
Crossing out civil rights, constitutional rights, a bushel barrel at a time.
There was a time when pissing off the media was not a good idea. It seems today like the NYPD is seeking to piss them off.
I wish somebody could tell them the reporters are there for the march, not the police! Cop heads swelling too much there.
Could you please explain exactly how you know them, specifically is it in the biblical sense.
On second thought, forget I asked. PLEASE.
LS OWS-NYC
Police are bottling up 3000-5000 people on Fifth Avenue
As I typed earlier, the 1%ers who run the media will apologize abjectly to the 1%ers who run the political offices, and the maltreated reporters will be fired.
LS OWS-NYC
Scooters joining the blockade.
Once again the NYPD is shutting down traffic
The police are not on your side. They are there to protect the 1%. With the increased militarization, they have been training to put down internal dissent. OWS is internal dissent. They are doing what they are trained to do. The violent behavior by the police is not aberrational. The police are not your friends; they are not your allies.
http://www.occupysf.com/news/130-police-raid-expected-tonight
There was a sort of “mini-raid” last night on the edge of the SF camp.
Mayor seems increasingly hostile. Worried about tonight.
Abramoff coming up on Ratigan, allegedly. That should be a hoot ‘n a half.
ROTFLMASSOFF!
No, not in the biblical sense. All I will say is that in the Carolina’s, Tennessee, Georgia, and surrounding states here it is on Display Daily!
Think Deer Hunters Camo wear everyday.
Tried to make that point earlier today but you make it in a clearer way.
A lot of the earlier focus was bet good cops & bad cops, and my rejoinder was that was not the issue, but the system was the issue: the way they’re trained, indoctrinated, clothed, equipped, etc.
We pay them! We pay them to protect us, the people. Not a street in Manhatten.
Jack Cafferty on CNN just repeated the same lie. “Why are they even in NYC, Seattle, Oakland, and Portland when the fire they want to put out is in DC???”
DC isn’t one of the more visible occupys, but it does exist. People can’t just travel at will to whatever city they please to protest indefinitely. They protest where they live. 17 million people live in the NYC area. DC is full of political establishment types. Most of those on the left there are going to be working in that field, or are students aspiring to, and may think they’re above protesting in the streets or just don’t want to risk ruining their career (unless it’s party endorsed). NYC has a bit of that, and other unique problems, but they have far more people. Portland, Oakland (formerly SF before costs became too high), and Seattle have long been cities left-of-Democrat types have flocked to, so it’s not a surprise they’re large turnouts in them.
LS OWS-NYC
Blocked at 5th Ave and 14th Street
March turned down 14th; NYPD allowing them down 14th?
The fire might be in DC, but the fuel is in Wall Steet.
LS – OWS-NYC
Protesters routed back to Union Square.
True. I just thought Forbes really showed himself. Of course, he really is a member of the 1% Club.
I think most people in OWS know that by now. Their kind/naive attitude towards the police is for their own self-defense. As soon as they are painted as antagonistic towards the police, the police, mayors, and media will jump all over them and try to smear the protest as being a bunch of spoiled, hateful people who can’t be trusted because they’re anti-police (since the police are portrayed as heroes non-stop by the media and politicians).
Re Toronto (in less than 30 minutes):
Re NYC:
You saw how quickly Anderson Pooper bailed on Tahrir after he got mussed up. Reporters need to be controlled even if they are paid to do your bidding.
One of my best friends is a deer hunter. Also, another, now quite elderly neighbor, who is not well edumacated nor informed, yet a decade or so ago, we had a civilized discussion on gun control, hunting, open space. He’s quite charming, in the sense of a thick Maine accent and courteous.
And then there’s Deer Hunter movie. I can’t take issue with any of the protagonists and the problems they confronted. (Though the initial scenes of mountains where they allegedly hunter in PA were so bogus it embarrassed me.)
I have a lot of respect for those hunters that actually bring home their catch and eat it. I don’t care for the trophy type.
If Bloomie is right and there are 1000 or less protestors why so many police?
Don’t Close the Schools
Occupy Tuscaloose? Well, I’ll swan, shuga, that does my heart good.
I favor OWS not having focused demands, as one of its strengths, bc the entire U.S. system is broken. However, admittedly one of the downsides is that it allows all the opponents of OWS can write their own opinion on the movement without fear of rebuttal bc they haven’t heard a specific objection to their objection.
Occupy LA at Bank of America
There is so much wrong that a demand would become a list too long for MSM to report. It would blow their small little minds.
Wow. There’s so much going on that I can’t figure out what I want to watch, er, read.
Oh dear, in a couple of months, I’ll be a trophy type. (Ducking under computer stand while brickbats fly overhead.)
Last week my hunter friend got a buck with a bow & arrow; on my property. Quid pro quo is that I get venison. Which he gave me in wonderful profusion.
Since he’s been a hunter for a long time, and has quite a collection of mounted racks, I asked him if he had enough would he give me this one. He agreed. I should get it from the taxidermist in a couple of months, I am told.
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Agree. Typing it bc it makes me think about it more deeply.
Hey! You both eat the meat. That’s not the trophy type I’m talking about.
“Anderson Pooper”…. I like that. And he did bail. But these are our streets. I am hoping it is part and parcel of the journalists waking up. I know that the prevailing view is that they are stooges, and indeed there is more than ample evidence of that being spot on. But, optimist that I am, I am hoping that the money lolled them into a nap, rather than an irreversible coma, and that some will begin to stir and to rub the sleep from their eyes.
Abramoff coming up after commercial on Ratigan. Looking forward to some genuine infotainment.
even if they had demands msm would twits them, so end up the same
LS OWS-NYC
Back to 9th and Broadway. Huge police presence. More than 20 unmarked police vehicle crossed Broadway going from west to east.
Wheel-to-wheel motorcycle cops keeping protesters on sidewalk on both sides of the street. With a line of cops in the street on the other side of the motorcycles. The police have shut down the street but are isolating the protesters to the sidewalk.
What a waste of NYC taxpayer money.
Head of march has a “Debt is Slavery” banner
Re Italy:
“‘Occupy’ culture enters Roman theatre” … “As a result of privatisation and downsizing, Italian communities have taken culture into their own hands.” (MediaOriente.Com, by Donatella Della Ratta, Last Modified: 16 Nov 2011 16:03)
Re Germany:
‘“Occupy” activists occupy Federal Press beach‘ | Berliner Morgenpost | Nov. 14, 2011
saw the doc, not the film, a while back. Not surprising but shocking to see it all rolled out. jack came up with grovner and that creepy religious guy that helped get bush elected. I think his name was ? Reed
I knew that.
You see, human motivations are complex.
Sometimes I can’t resist getting embroiled into the middle of what is usually a one-sided leftie issue just to see what happens.
Good point.
anyone else having trouble with this livestream?
I can’t get it to load, so I’ve been watching here
http://www.ustream.tv/theother99
People don’t choose to go into slavery, People do choose to go into debt. Stupid banner for stupid people.
I wish only that 99ers had recognized that sooner, but powers were too powerful. Everything in U.S. pumped virtue of going into debt.
Yep. You gotta switch back and forth. They can’t stay connected for some reason.
Ditto leverage at investment banks.
Only they were bailed out by much poorer tax payers.
Abramoff up at Ratigan. What a sleazy turncoat. Turning against banksters just when it might be profitable to bc a shyster on that side. Con artist deluxe.
On edit: completely conned Ratigan.
I agree
Anything interesting on LS? I can’t stream at all after LS crashed my ‘puter. Limited to tweets. Ack.
Some young people don’t realize that credit card makes them a slave.
Heh. Which part of DHS provides the cameras?
just watched thought it was worthless.
Re Japan (with photos):
“Occupy Tokyo: Mass demonstrations go unreported by Japanese media” | Sott.net | Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:53 CS
Re China:
Occupy Beijing on Facebook documents human rights abuses
A bit more as to why the self-immolations by monks in “China News November 16, 2011” (NTD TV, Nov 16, 2011)
It doesn’t make them a slave. If they don’t want to repay their card debt, don’t get into card debt.
Tim’s checking his batteries at the moment (Ustream).
Yep, because only the banksters get bailed out when they get in deep financial doo-doo. The rest of us get sold out (to the banks).
Heh. Battery change means something interesting will happen that can’t be streamed.
<NOW Police getting aggressive with batons and scooters on 6th avenue at #ows #n17 march to foley #occupywallst #oo #occupyoakland
Disagree. Showed how shallow Ratigan is as in my on edit comment. Abramof conned Ratigan. Too funny for words. Gallows humor of course.
Tweetie up on msnbc. Haven’t watched him in over a year. Gah.
LAPD
Any debt makes you a slave to work until it is paid because they charge corrupt interest on it. I would feel differently if the interest rates were less than 1%. You are shackled by credit and it steals your ability manage your income. I don’t want to debate you on that now. I wish you would stay on topic better.
Arrest of journo with press pass. Pic.
The largest problem is student debt. The tuition fees are astronomical now, but if you don’t get a BA or some other qualification after a diploma, you’re really shit out of luck. The BA is the new high school diploma/GED. But just like the diploma before, having that BA doesn’t even guarantee you career work anymore. You need a master’s for a chance at that, but the 2 year master’s degree in the US cost the same as a 4 year bachelor’s.
Now, if you had well to do parents, had the right skills and interests and got a degree in a field with high demand, or graduated from college before 1995, you’re living in a slightly different world where it may seem to you everything is fine and everyone who are out protesting, who has massive debts are some minority of people who made really poor decisions, which is just not reality.
Someone at the Lake called his show Hairball, which I though was hilarious. Abner hacks up more substance.
Are they able to get into Foley for the Festival? I can’t get LS up now.
Occupy Long Island in solidarity at Centre and Duane
from xeni
NYPD appear to be kettling small children who are coloring banners @ #FoleySquare with parents. Via @OccupyWallStNYC: http://t.co/j9hmqnC7
how did he con him? dylan just asked broad questions, did not drill down, nothing. worthless
Uh oh. Not clear what the Occupiers plan is with the bridge. Tweets this morning said they would not close it down.
Occupy Chicago on LaSalle St
I know. My oldest son graduated in 2004. He is employed thankfully, but it is very low pay and there is NO way he can pay his rent, auto upkeep, and student loans.
Oh, they’d better not arrest families or they’ll have yellowsnapdragon to deal with. They’d better not. (NSA, relax. Idle threat)
New chant (to me, anyway): Bloomberg beware, Zucotti Park is everywhere.
Occupy Houston
LMFAO.
BEST ONE YET!
Foley Sq. is apparantly packed already from what I’ve read…
It’s a miracle, isn’t it? There is no crime in New York City today/tonight, so all the police are free to try to do whatever they’re trying to do. (I’m sad for those who must obey because they can’t lose the paycheck. I’m stuck here watching on line because I need that paycheck.) Those brave men and women who represent me all over this country have my respect and gratitude.
Chicago ActionNow march
We are seeing a peaceful, non-violent assembly of thousands exercising their Constitutional Rights as citizens of a free and noble society to speak, petition and protest against the Wall Street criminals, right-wing intolerant politicians and overwhelming police repression and violence. The use of instruments of brutality to cause pain and harm to citizens in the name of law and order is unexcusable, and only results in anarchy, mayhem and confusion.
That’s exactly the way Abranoff conned Ratigan. Ratigan took Abramoff at his word, didn’t drill down, exactly as you say. That is precisely the way conartists work. They have a charming patter that pulls the wool over people’s eyes that prevent them from asking the most obvious Qs. The conartists say what they know the questioner wants to hear. Was a stellar performance on Abranoffs part.
On edit: Do you think that Abranoff was more sophisticated with the Indian tribal leaders? Of course not. Abramoff told Indian leaders what they wanted to hear and that was sufficient.
The PTB will resist violently no matter how peaceful we are. This is just the start of a long struggle.
That is great news. I guess the cops just don’t want them to do the light festival.
There is also supposed to be a GA meeting between 5 and 5:30. I’ll run over to the web site and see if they have anything up yet.
Clip from the site:
Header said estimate of 10,000 already in Foley.
Foley Square Pic
well put!
Occupy Miami
jack knows where all the bodies are buried and in return for keeping his mouth shut, exposing just a few, he get to go msm and have his “makeover” approved. dylan I think knows this and knows there was little he could ask.
dylan IMO has lost much of his fire and those idiots he has on his panel confirm that for me
Re Spain:
Antifascist demonstrations around the 20-N-2011 (Nodo50.org, Nov. 17, 2011)
Prior posts linked at Occupy Spain on Facebook
“‘Interferències’ is the first Creative Commons film to debut in cinemas and online” … “Directing the debt crisis” | El Pais | CLARA BLANCHAR – Barcelona – 17/11/2011
A synopsis of actions around the world today … “November 17: a day packed with worldwide action” | RoarMag.Org | by Jérôme E. Roos on November 17, 2011
thanks and WOW
Anyone have a direct link to the NYC live aerial feeds? I know there is at least one good one that I was watching a few weeks ago.
Depends on who has choppers up. Check the local news affiliates.
This shit is getting very real. Very fast.
So IYO, Dylan wasn’t conned, he’s sold out.
Either way…
Yes IMO. I think dylan compromised a while ago.
I haven’t watched MSM for well over a year, so you’re more aware of such matters. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised.
2 aerial live streams:
http://www.emergencystream.com/video_streams/NY/NYC2/a.html
http://www.emergencystream.com/video_streams/NY/NYC3/a.html
Basically the same it seems. Maybe one is delayed or they’re operating 2 cameras from the same helicopter.
CPD arrests
A bunch of Occupy Hilo members are attending UH-Hilo’s planned rally and march thru downtown Hilo in about 2hrs from now…!
I’m really looking forward to it…!
LS OWS-NYC
SEIU is marching?
The live cam guy could not get access close to the stage. He’s a little confused as to what is going on.
There are barricades keeping people from joining the protest.
Orange kettling is going up. Trying to separate people. Closing press air space.
Occupy Huntsville AL
Any Occupy Selma?
Van jones on the REV speaking about OWS. Blow me this man is determined to stay relevant and co-opt anything he can without doing any of the work.
Not yet. Occupy Birmingham is 24/7 for now. Occupy Mobile got evicted from two places in one day. Some high school kids created an Occupy Boaz, got arrested, and haven’t been heard from since. Occupy Montgomery had one event. There are some other places that are getting started.
what is the point of occupying BB. Am I missing something?
LS OWC-NYS
Marching with a marching band on the way to the Brooklyn Bridge. Verizon workers are there.
That is the GOAL of the 1% – to make it look like these protests & occupies are just filled with “anarchy, mayhem and confusion.” It is a *feature,* not a bug, and the resulting “anarchy” and/or “violence” will most definitely be blamed solely & only on the protesters, no matter how peacefully they protest.
History repeats itself. This tactic is not new. Used during Union protests & struggles in the early part of the 20th C, also with the women’s suffrage movement, the Civil Rights movement and the Anti-Viet Nam War movement.
Ya ain’t seen *nothing* yet. Prepare for more of the same and worse.
Completing the march that was interrupted by the mass arrests.
I just returned from Occupy Denver’s noon rally and march through streets of downtown Denver. Crowd not as large as Saturday marches, but probably a couple of hundred. Met at steps of Denver City and County Building across Civic Center Park from the State Capitol.
Petition started to recall Mayor Hancock, who (along with Governor Hickenlooper) has been behind the show of force by Denver Police and their forcible evacuations of Occupy Denver from the sidewalks in front of the Park.
Another rally starting at 6:00 PM tonight, at the Greek Amphitheater in Civic Center Park.
This afternoon’s rally and march totally peaceful, although with large police presence. Lots of bicycle and mounted police.
Occupy Sacramento!
Occupy Elk Grove, CA (south of Sacramento) occupies Dan Lungren’s office today.
People inside the Beltway know. Here is but one example of the daily activities of Occupy DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbadMS1rn1U
Good one. I’d forgotten about that.
Heh. Hadn’t seen that one, thanks. I love those actions.
Occupy Chicago
Under Chicago Board of Trade
People “dying” on the street
Many thanks, TarheelDem.
LS OWS-NYC
The live cam is marching on the Brooklyn Bridge. Honks of support from the roadway below.
99% spotlight on the Verizon Building
Verizon Tower gets people’s spotlight
To CTuttle@228
Had to unlurk to put in my 2 cents here – Yay, Hilo, YAY!!
Occupy UC Davis
Occupy Chicago
Walking across BB is soooo cool. I’ve done it only during daylight, but doing it at night with all the spectacular Manhattan & Brooklyn lights must be the bestest.
No one who have never lived in NYC can imagine it. You all have seen countless pics, but being there is another level of consciousness.
Protesters occupying LA Bank of America locking arms and holding ground
Occupy Oregon: South side of Yamhill and 6th
Tarheel, I’m really enjoying the great pictures. Thanks so much.
Occupy Seattle
Occupy Fresno livestream
Occupy Seattle
What Occupy Orlando lacked in people it made up for in enthusiasm.
Interestingly, I met two people from Michigan who were in town visiting and wanted to continue their protesting. When I first heard that someone on the bridge was from Michigan, I thought they were just coming south for the winter, but no, just looking for the nearest protest. Way cool.
We had more TV trucks and helicopters than police. I didn’t think about it until we were leaving, but the cops seemed to have left the party early.
Occupy Provo UT
Woot!
LS OWS-NYC
Occupy Wall Street Library has books in a shopping cart on the Brooklyn Bridge. The mobile library.
President of SEIU arrested but also supports O for POTUS be afraid be very afraid
Videos from Italy’s anti-Monti, anti-austerity protests today:
http://video.corriere.it/tensioni-corteo-studenti/ae483814-110a-11e1-b811-fb0a2ca90bde
http://video.corriere.it/ragioni-studenti-corteo/499cd0fa-112d-11e1-b811-fb0a2ca90bde
http://video.corriere.it/video-corteo/d7b9083e-112f-11e1-b811-fb0a2ca90bde
http://video.corriere.it/corteo-studenti-palermo-ferito-uomo-polizia/b35aad0e-110b-11e1-b811-fb0a2ca90bde
http://video.corriere.it/gli-studenti-bocconi/f15e7cb8-112c-11e1-b811-fb0a2ca90bde
Bocconi is Italy’s elite business school, where the new technocrat prime minister, Monti, originates and will be recruiting disciples into the Italian government.
There were protests in many major Italian cities today, this is just one of them.
Occupy Denver livestream
Are you honestly surprised? All the major unions will support him. They are joined at the hip. Now, if the IWW endorsed Obama, I’d be surprised.
Occupy Earth
Nice catch Username!
Occupy Chicago general assembly
Pffffffft. Why bother getting arrested if yer just gonna vote O? I heard an occupier on the radio essentially saying that Democrats wanted to be talking about income inequality and wage stagnation 3 months ago. Some peeps just don’t get it.
watched as much as I could take of ED and Maddow. Ed started his show covering OWS and then tied it and their demands into O and dem party. maddow started talking about O and his job plan and then tied OWS to it.
F them and the masters they serve
because you are trying to use your arrest to co-opt. and use your ability to get on msm to seem that you are a major player of the movement
Kewl video of Verizon building “bat signal”
Yeah, you’re right. That’s probably why.
Kettling using bikes in LA
heck if you saw the video of her arrest and her peeps they all had on T-shirts with 99% scrawled on the back, heads of unions for the most part are the 1%. unions needs to stay but how they operate need to go
It’s called a coalition and it’s the result of Occupy Wall Street’s outreach to union members in order to turn out numbers. If the SEIU leadership has the illusion that they will be able to translate their participation in a coalition to change the political culture into the co-option of the movement that seeks to change that culture, the SEIU leadership is in for a big surprise when the rank-and-file remind them that the SEIU leadership works for them and not the other way around.
The 2012 election at this point is pretty much irrelevant unless there is real reform in how candidates communicate with voters. And so is communication to the “masses” through the Wall Street Media (which MSNBC is, not matter how carefully Schultz and Maddow try to shut off the pipes of the Wurlitzer).
The important thing is not to engage in hand-wringing about the election. Changing the political culture deals with that. But to ignore the power of coalitions in growing the number of individuals in the movement is to handicap it. And the individuals of most importance in the SEIU are the members who participate locally in their local general assemblies.
Damn straight.
Is this pic real?
I love your comments. But you do not need to educate me on what is happening here. I get it. juts pointing stuff out so everybody stays on their toes and aware
Appears to be. No distortion around the stream, no warping, nothing to indicate that it was photoshopped.
Where is it from. That doesn’t look like NYPD riot gear.
Uh. Wow.
According to the 9:12 PM update of this blog post.
Occupy Lexington KY photo set 11-17-2011
That would mean Portland, I assume.
Portland! It’s what happens when you spurn co-option by a mayor.
Mercury-News: San Jose: Protester living on City Hall wall ordered to come down
Cease and desist order for a wall occupier.
Love this!
Tarheel,
Thanks for your diligent support and keeping up with it all here.
The Mayors just don’t get it. Surely Bloomie noticed the increased attendance today.
That is fantacular! Creative, yes, Americans are very creative.
It’s not a camp, it’s an art installation. And art is protected by the First Amendment. We are performance artists.
Soon the police in all locations are going to tire of arresting people and have them come right back to the Occupy site. What a waste of time and resources.
Argh! They are pulling that stunt again? How many times now have they shut off cell phone service and twitter in the area of occupations?
#OccupyNashville Infiltrates Rumsfeld Speech
Mubrarak tried it first. Wound up costing his 1% millions of dollars in lost business transactions. Wonder how focused Verizon or ATT can be about that sort of suppression of service?
right on!
I don’t know, but I do know that we are paying them to spy on us!
Occupy Louisville
I am flabbergasted that they don’t get it yet. You get brutal and ugly and try to shut them down, the next day there are more.
OccupyButte gets County Commissioners to Pass Social Program Resolution
Oh, Wow! I was just clicking the channels and V for Vendetta is on BBC America now.
Who’s laws? Our laws!
And now I’m watching it, too! Thanks for the tip.
They just showed Natalie Portman interview where she said we must address the violence and type of murder that is considered okay.
It was a great little interview, wasn’t it?
She asked “Why is it okay to kill soldiers in uniform but not civilians, even if some of those soldiers are forced to serve in the military in some countries?”
Great question, Natalie.
Here is the SEIU page about today’s actions. For some reason they do not mention Boston although we had one of about 1000 marchers. Other unions were also present as well as the Occupiers.
Went to the same failing bridge where the little incident happened on Columbus Day. This time nothing more than a few speeches and some TV coverage. No trouble whatever with the Boston Police that I know of.
http://www.seiu.org/2011/11/bridge-actions-break-out-across-the-country.php
Who was feeding them the information from Boston? Were there any pics or videos? They could be posted here.
I did find this about Better Baltimore’s and Occupy Baltimore’s Howard Street Bridge action.
This I do not know. I was not with SEIU. I did see that they had numerous people up front photographing. This is the best I can find quickly, knowing that there was a Channel 5 truck on site.
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/29794546/detail.html
http://twitpic.com/7fmbla
Occupy Great Falls MT:
KFBB: Great Falls “Occupies” 15th St. Bridge
Thanks for linking to this report. Today was a very big day. We are just beginning to learn the scope of the protest.
A Portland, OR #N17 recap:
“Open Letter in Response to Coordinated Attacks on Occupy Camps by FBI, DHS and Mayors” (OccupyPortland.Org, Nov. 17th, 2011)
“Average age of the 25 people arrested this morning for demonstrating Civil Disobedience on the Steel Bridge is fifty.” (Nov. 17, 2011)
“The Moment When the Police Lost the Occupy Portland Narrative” | Portland Mercury | Posted by Denis C. Theriault on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:01 PM. Photo of the woman as she got pepper sprayed. Aerial footage of the incident (KPTV.Com, Nov. 17, 2011, time point 0:05) and note mounted police on the sidewalk.
Another woman assaulted from behind:
Police person rams woman from behind with bicycle at time point 0:07 (action starts at time point 0:01; clear id of the officer from the video but no badge number):
Oregonian Nov. 17, 2011 video here. Notice ~12 male and female riot police riding black truck equipped with a running board and grab rail (time point 1:41).
Video of demonstrators, including gentleman in a motorized wheelchair, protest Well Fargo’s active investment in multi-national private prison corporation, the GEO Group.
Re NYC:
New hash tag, #NoShameLiketheShameOfBeingACop, reveals “Retired NY Supreme Court Justice Karen Smith Roughed up by Cops for Intervening in Brutal Beating of ‘Occupy’ Protester’s Mom” (Moral Low Ground, Nov. 17, 2011).