
John Knefel, one of the Occupy 17, is released from jail (photo: TheOther99)
New York Police Department officers arrested seventeen people at an Occupy Wall Street flash mob action in Brookfield Properties’ Winter Garden yesterday. Those seventeen people each have something in common: they all are somehow involved with media. At the action, they were taking photos, video and tweeting out updates on the action. And, now, more than thirty-six hours later, they have finally been released from jail.
The Occupy 17, as they are being referred to on Twitter, will have plenty to say when they get out. In the meantime, audio recently posted by Occupy Info that was recorded hours ago provides a first glimpse into what those arrested have been experiencing in jail.
From 100 Center Street, Justin Wedes, a well-known face of Occupy Wall Street who was live streaming the flash mob action, describes being excited a couple hours ago because they thought they would finally see a judge.
Wedes finds out for the first time that there is video of his arrest. One can only imagine, after all Wedes has been through, how relieved he is to know that people were able to see what he experienced. He says on his arrest:
I was hurt. I was pretty roughed up. My right wrist was pretty lacerated. It was bleeding. They had to give me medical care. Still have a lot of numbness in my thumb. I was pretty roughed up. And in fact I really wasn’t looking for any trouble yesterday. I was trying to get out of the place. I had a laptop in my hand. I was just moving to pack up my stuff and get out when I was targeted. And so, I wasn’t expecting to spend the next couple days in the Tombs.
The group, he notes, has been working to stay upbeat. He adds the cops gave them McDonald’s and they have been talking to both nice cops and bad cops. Plus, the group spotted an Occupy Wall Street sticker in one of the cells. And they have been talking to “99 percenters” in the cell with them about social justice, income inequality and why they are occupying.
On his laptop, which he was using to live stream, he says he does not know who has it right now. (In the video, he can be seen handing it off quickly to someone as he is arrested.) He explains all equipment has been “vouchered.” Some of the equipment has been returned, some has been held as “evidence.” SD cards were taken out of cameras. The videographers and photographers are worried about their equipment (one imagines they probably fear NYPD have wiped their equipment of all footage and photos from the action).
John Knefel, who is a journalist and a FAIR media intern, was arrested while filming the action with his iPhone. He had also been tweeting the action. Knefel describes his arrest:
A member of the NYPD grabbed my arm and threw me to the ground as I was filming, very clearly, in my opinion because I was filming. That was sort of how it began and from there we were put in pretty tight cuffs. I was actually the last person released from the riot cuffs at about 3:30 pm. So, I was in the riot cuffs from 10:30 am to 3:30 pm. I don’t have any sort of like tingling nerve damage but my wrists are definitely sore and tender after that.
Lorenzo, who was livestreaming on OWSNYC, was arrested after being identified by a white-shirted officer. He was walking when police pointed out a spot where he should go. The white-shirted officer than began pointing and saying that’s the one we want. Take him, take him, the officer said.
When Lorenzo tried to hand off his equipment to someone he recognized nearby, a white-shirted officer stopped him and said, no, you’re not getting that back. I’m going to make sure you don’t get that back for six months.
At the 7th Precinct, Lorenzo adds, they “tried to voucher everything.” Everything that was for the livestream “they made sure to keep.” He was told he could go back and get it.
Lorenzo concludes, “They had plans for us from the start and started identifying us the occupiers and it seemed like the process was very slowed down for us.”
There is absolutely no reasonable justification for the seventeen being in jail as long as they were held before seeing a judge. Lorenzo reports others arrested were brought in and “instantly fingerprinted.” Meanwhile, the seventeen “sat there, sat there and sat there.” They got there at 11:30 am. There were people who entered their cell and were fingerprinted and moved on. They would be asked, “Are these occupiers?” And when the cops figured out who they were, it just seemed like, according to Lorenzo, they moved on to others and slowed the process down for them intentionally.
And, Lorenzo reports cell mates have been shocked at how long the seventeen have been held and what they’ve been charged with and how they have not seen a judge yet. What they are going through is not normal.
What Knefel has to say on how the seventeen have been treated further affirms this suspicion that the seventeen were targeted. He says early in the morning when they were moved from the 7th Precinct they were put in a “sort-of half chain gang style in rows of two with our one hand all chained together along a line. It sort of made moving like we were pallbearers. Sometimes it felt we were kind of dragging a sled all of us in a line.”
He says they were marched around very slowly from “one station to another.” They would stop at each point, un-handcuff one person and then that person would go in.
Paul Sullivan was locked up with all the Occupy Wall Street media people too. Like others, he says the seventeen were “targeted deliberately yesterday morning.”
It is his first time being arrested:
It’s a new experience to me. I’m going through fear but also seeing a new world, seeing a new place I’ve never experienced before. It’s really illuminating in ways it’s bad that I hadn’t seen before and then in ways it’s not so terrible, how it’s human inside here. These are just people.
Nick, who is also with livestream and was arrested, says he shares a “similar story.” He describes the importance of livestreamers:
I think it’s very important that other livestream teams around the country realize that in the midst of livestreaming these events that sometimes you just have to put yourself out there to get arrested in order to let people see what’s really going on. A lot of the mainstream media doesn’t cover the events that we do and it’s very important that livestream gets it out there.
The seventeen are now free. They all will be telling their stories over the next few days. More will be heard that further suggests the NYPD was going after independent journalists and citizen media makers. But, make no mistake: they will not be intimidated. They will be at the next action with two or three more people, who were radicalized by the way NYPD handled independent media on Monday. Those people will be there streaming video or sending tweets because they know how important it is to be present to capture the next incident involving the NYPD violating freedom of assembly, freedom of speech or press freedom. They know one more set of eyes will make it harder for the NYPD to criminalize independent journalists.
*In case you missed it, here is video of arrests at the World Financial Center on Monday:
Update
Following their release last night, the Occupy 17 went out for a Chinese food dinner. They streamed their dinner live:

Some of what was shared:


And Molly Knefel tweeted following the release:

For more, see the @TheOther99 or @OccupyWallStNYC account.



70 Comments

Surely this must all be an innocent mistake. After all,
Police Commissioner Kelly To NYPD: Stop Arresting Reporters For Doing Their Job
I was in NYC over Thanksgiving. The general vibe in Lower Manhattan was early-onset police state.
The pseudo-martial law atmosphere was as oppressive as anything I’ve ever felt in the US. Yet.
And kudos to the brave 17.
Oh, that was just for the public consumption. It didn’t mean a thing in his real orders to the cops.
Reminder:
They will use the over board police presence and costs to the city for wrongly arresting people against OWS movement.
OT,
Senate Ag com hearing started. Corzine up first. Link.
Expect his senate colleagues will cover for him even more than his house colleagues did.
You said it! TWOOPH!
ICYMI:
http://naomiwolf.org/2011/12/how-congress-is-signing-its-own-arrest-warrants-in-the-ndaa-citizen-arrest-bill/#comment-225
This looks like bad policing, bad management of police, etc.
Lawsuit time? Is it close enough to what Bloomberg did to people during the Republican Convention to be successful?
(Occupy 2.0, D17)
Take back the Commons
During R convention, conventioneers walked from their hotels into buses at the curb, buses took them a couple of blocks to the convention center, where they walked from the curb into the building. I walked by & told any I caught in their brief ‘perp’ walks to go home, we didn’t want them in the city.
Petty, I know, but it made me feel a little better.
Occupy DC:
Today they will visit Mitt.
MF Global prez sez he also doesn’t know what happened to cust funds in the chaotic days at the end, and that the reason for the failure of the firm was ‘loss of confidence.’
(slaps knees, upside down laughing, 707)
Yeah, Right!
Got their talking points down pat, anyhooo.
Stabenow up. Brings up S-O doc signed by CEO. Ooopsie. We’ll now find out that making CEOs sign such docs is as worthless as we thought it was when S-O was passed.
‘we are the many,they are the few’ Your filming is recording a historical time and must be shared with the world.Police tactics have gone far beyond what is required for a peaceful protest. Supression, will only galvanize the movement as did the Brooklyn Bridge mass arrests.I support ‘filming the police’ so they are held accountable and transparent in their actions.
Occupy LA:
http://owsnews.org/say-no/
Ooopsie Indeed!
Can you hear me shouting? “Banks got bailed out, we got sold out”?
OK. Repetitive. Gonna bake.
Absolutely! The cops have already been warned. For every person trying to film you take, three more will show up!
Wonder when the police will start detaining occupiers for even longer times in jail as punishment? (And the crime is…?) When will some be denied the right to legal representation, or to see a judge or magistrate? When might some be ‘disappeared’ if deemed a terrorist or other threat to ‘public safety’? I’m afraid those times are at hand.
Silly me, I thought it was the loss of the money.
I’m surprised it has taken the police this long to start keeping occupiers in jail longer.
Thanks for the update Kevin. Beginning to suspect you are Superman.
It was the loss of Corzine’s buddies at the ratings agencies. They were covering his junk with solid ratings for months.
Is there any word on the charges against these people?
(Kevin, will you be doing a post about what you will be doing on Friday for Manning’s hearing? There is an occupy even planned at Ft Meade, right?)
Anybody got a link to watch the MF Global hearing today?-it doesn’t seem to be on C-Span.
I haven’t seen any specific charges levied against them.
I’m not sure about the Fort, but there is solidarity Marches planned across the country.
Occupy Houston:
I got nothing. They have not updated and show zilch on the calendar.
I got an email from Jane (a mass mailer) that said Kevin was traveling to Fort Meade for the hearing.
I thought I saw something about occupiers getting bused to Ft Mead. I could be wrong.
You may be right. I didn’t see it. I do see planned marches in solidarity.
YES! I’m very excited for us here at FDL and for Kevin. I’d like for him to take special note on Lamo’s presence and any questions regarding him.
Lamo. *spit*
I know it! Just too many unanswered questions regarding him and his lizard slink into the Manning chat and business.
Link.
It is taking too long to process protestors. This is intentional and is happening from coast-to-coast. Just two nights ago, some of the protestors in Seattle were held all night before being allowed to be released on bail, with several people making phone calls to the police, to Occupy legal team, for a quicker bail turn-around. Some people were even waiting at the station for a protestor’s release until 4 am. 12 hours after the arrest.
After they left the station, 15 minutes later, the police released the protestor. Just waiting for everyone to give up hope and go home apparently.
And this is one demonstrators accounts of what happened a week ago in LA. http://myoccupylaarrest.blogspot.com/
The law is failing us, and they know that all of these charges will be dropped. So, they will hold onto people as long as they can in jail, and cloud the reasons for the duration. But this is still serving time for a sentence which hasn’t been handed out yet.
I have worked w/ NYPD cops for a long time. Yesterday one said that the public doesn’t respect them as in the past. Previously, he had told me that cops hate cameras. None are big on self-reflection. Even though Rudy Guiliani never gave them a raise in 8 years, they liked him because, “He let us be cops.” Apparently, cameras “don’t let them be cops”. Here’s another gem; when they go to court to testify, it’s called “testalying”.
Thank you, eCahn. Appreciated.
That link is to yesterday’s hearing. Any idea where to watch the one that is supposed to happen today, or what time it is scheduled for?
Oopsie. Didn’t even look at the date. I’ll hunt.
Could you relay a message to them? They would be much more highly respected if they would stop with the brutal tactics. Nothing at OWS has caused reason for batons, rubber bullets, tear gas, or any ugly stuff.
He can’t be Superman. See, he’s wearing glasses. Dude must be Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter.
Thanks, I’m having no luck finding it, but I think there is supoosed to be a House hearing today.
Next step could be indefinite detention. (It’s legal now, yes/no?)
Posted below but want everyone to see this – pretty uplifting – and I like Chaplin – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8C-qIgbP9o&feature=share
I can’t find anything. When you put in MF Global with today’s date, all I get is stories about yesterday’s testimony.
I trust there will be many lawsuits…
PeasantParty@34 and 36, and yellowsnapdragon@35
YES YES YES
ICYMI:
http://taxjustice.blogspot.com/2011/12/links-dec-14.html
Thanks. Maybe it will be an afternoon hearing, I’ll track CNBC.
It’s not so easy to get said message “received”. As I stated, they aren’t espcially self-reflective. (I’m fond of understatement.) For us, the sad reality is that cops really enjoy knocking people around….Makes ‘em feel…efficacious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mcdW95pBl4
(grins)
Where is Tarheel?
That black footed soul that is so loyal is missing today!
Forgive the nitpick, but I believe that would be “testilying.” And yes, it is a commonly used term, among lawyers to my knowledge, because it is such a common occurrence.
No offense taken, realitychecker. Regards.
Back at you. Nice to see your fonts. I might add, that in every case when I have personally been taken to court by police, even though mostly for mere traffic tickets, the cops involved have totally lied their asses off. It has always infuriated me that judges and hearing officers almost universally pretend to believe that no law enforcer would EVER lie in court.
“It’s not a lie if YOU believe it.”
George Costanza (Seinfeld)
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
There’s a rumor going around that you have sex with geckos. Any truth to that?
I watched her youtube video of end of America about 4 years ago. She was spot on then.
Yes, everyone, I am preparing a post on what I will be doing at Ft. Meade during the Manning pre-trial hearing. I will share some of the encouraging and energizing tweets I received in reaction to my Twitter announcement that I will be attending the hearing. And, I will let everyone know the status of my (and Jon Walker’s attempt) to register with the military as media and try to be present in one of the rooms at the hearing, where people will be allowed to view at least some of the proceedings.
Occupy San Antonio just reported via their facebook page that a Houston judge has dismissed all felony charges against the protesters arrested there on Tuesday.
Also too, in case anyone missed it – Time Magazine has named ‘the protester’ Person of the Year.
On edit – disregard that last part. Just saw Kevin has a post up about it already
Woot! Are those the ones from the tent?
*Two* media peeps from FDL. Nice.
Yes indeed.
The spring of 2012 is going to be unlike anything the United States has ever seen. Once the weather breaks there will be hundreds of thousands across the country getting active.
I’ll bet you $10,000 on that happening!