(update below)
On the tenth anniversary of the opening of the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba, most news articles are covering the stories of former detainees and highlighting how unlikely it is right now that detainees will ever be released, despite President Barack Obama’s promise to close what is now a symbol of US torture and abuse. Few are defending the prison in op-eds (though at least one torture apologist and indefinite detention supporter was eager to moonlight on the anniversary).
But Edwin Meese III, who served as Attorney General under President Ronald Reagan, has written a defense of the military detention and interrogation facility. He asserts it continues to serve an “important role in the war against terrorists,” as it houses “high-value terrorists, like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the architect of September 11.” He celebrates the “Expeditionary Legal Compound,” the “military commissions’ courthouse,” as a “world-class, state-of-the-art specifically designed to accommodate the needs of both defense and prosecutors dealing with classified information.” His praise for the military commissions system, of course, ignores the reality that, according to former chief Guantanamo prosecutor Morris Davis, only “six trials” have been completed.
Like other apologists for Guantanamo, he notes the United States is still “engaged in armed conflict and has been since September 11, 2001.” Citing the AUMF, he cites this as “legal authority” for holding prisoners at Guantanamo. Interestingly, he does not mention the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which essentially has given the detention facility a new lease on life.
Meese goes on to write that under the “law of war, engaging the enemy includes killing or capturing the enemy.” He says detaining enemies during wartime is “just as applicable to al Qaeda as it was to Nazi POWs in World War II.” This is blatantly misleading and Meese likely knows it. The Pentagon has, since “terror suspects” began to be held at the prison, maintained the prisoners are not POWs and thus not entitled to all of the international legal provisions affecting POWs. They have been considered “enemy combatants” or “unlawful combatants.”
If the “law of war” were applicable as the “law of war” was applicable to Nazi POWs, Meese might have an obligation to take a moment to chide all US politicians in Congress that have made it impossible and politically dangerous for one to support giving Guantanamo prisoners a fair trial in the United States. He might challenge those who would deny these “terror suspects” due process. He might also condemn Obama for supporting a policy of targeted assassinations that makes it permissible to kill suspects rather than take them into custody on charges of terrorism (after all, Nazis were given some semblance of due process and mere suspects weren’t assassinated). But, Meese’s argument is not one in defense of human rights. It is a deceptive and cleverly worded argument of semantics, all a part of a sinister game so-called believers in justice have played to defend Guantanamo.
Meese writes “one of the obvious ways to learn their intentions was through lawful interrogation at a safe detention facility. Guantanamo used as a detention facility since the Clinton administration was just such a place.” It has been reported that doctors at Guantanamo concealed evidence of torture. A top Bush administration official, Susan Crawford, admitted in January 2009 that Mohammed al-Qahtani had been tortured at Guantanamo. And this memo from Office of Legal Counsel Steven Bradbury indicates interrogation methods—forced nudity, dietary manipulation involving “minimum caloric intake at commercial weight-loss programs, facial and abdominal slapping, walling, stress positions, wall standing, cramped confinement, sleep deprivation and waterboarding”—which amount to torture were approved.
Meese challenges the idea that Guantanamo is a “recruiting tool for the enemy” with one of the weakest arguments possible.
It has been said that the mere existence of Guantanamo is a recruiting tool for the enemy. However, recall that there was no Guantanamo detention facility when al Qaeda bombed the World Trade Center in the 1990s or blew up the U.S. embassies in East Africa in 1998 or attacked the USS Cole in 2000. And I suspect that if the Bush administration had brought the Guantanamo detainees not to Cuba but to a detention facility in the United States, that facility would have been the object of their scorn and derision.
Essentially, Guantanamo is not an abomination radicalizing people in the Middle East because terrorist attacks have been committed before Guantanamo was used to hold prisoners. It’s not about where Gitmo is; it’s about what happens there. The argument can be obliterated by what military leaders like Gen. David Petraeus have admitted:
Gitmo has caused us problems, there’s no question about it. I oversee a region in which the existence of Gitmo has indeed been used by the enemy against us. We have not been without missteps or mistakes in our activities since 9/11. And again, Gitmo is a lingering reminder for the use of some in that regard.
Meese concludes by writing Guantanamo Bay has “played an invaluable role in the war against terrorists by keeping them off the battlefield and allowing for lawful interrogations.” This phony statement would be somewhat truthful if he had just written “played an invaluable role in the war against terrorists.” For the US, it has likely been part of why the “war on terror” has continued. Just like the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, which have provided “terrorists” with a theater to battle America, Guantanamo has ensured Top Secret America can continue to pursue the war it so desperately wants to fight, whether there is evidence to support the global war or not.
He calls out former President George W. Bush and President Barack Obama for failing to offer an alternative to Guantanamo. Obama actually tried to move terrorists to a facility that could be a “Gitmo North” and be located in America. This isn’t what human rights supporters want. They want the prisoners to be released, as the majority have endured torture. They want any person who is actually dangerous to receive due process where proof of their danger or that they committed an actual crime is presented. But Obama did propose this alternative and Meese appears to be someone who did not approve of this compromise, which would have “symbolically” ended Guantanamo but continued it in another form.
It is appalling this op-ed from a person with a history in power will appear on CNN‘s website all throughout the tenth anniversary of Guantanamo. True, the news website has posted a firsthand account from Moazzam Begg, a former Guantanamo detainee, and a news website should be able to publish a wide range of views. But postings like these are why Americans continue to justify the torture and abuse of prisoners and the continued operation of Guantanamo.
Op-eds like this may appear to be level-headed and truthful. The arguments are presented in a rational manner. But they are born from an ideology of fear that uses fact-free logic. They masquerade as something enlightening and informative, but they rest on a staggering amount of disinformation and outright lies.
This may be typical of establishment media like CNN. But even the establishment has a tough time defending Guantanamo this openly these days. So, what CNN is doing here is manufacturing a debate where the evidence to support one side of the debate is largely non-existent.
Update
Al Jazeera English’s “Inside Story” program on a “decade of Guantanamo”




33 Comments

Kevin, I think the arguments against perpetual war need to be given the attention they are most certainly due in this election season. We have already seen how even such a weak contender for our attention as Ron Paul becomes a champion on war issues that we have a hard time dismissing. The argument is crying out to be made, and while it certainly is an adjunct, or has been, to the clear and present Wall Street domination of political matters, what we are doing to people specifically with respect to Guantanamo and other prisons, and in general with antiterrorism laws extending down into our own population – well, if you can think of Occupy Wall Street as the match flame, this could well be the fire itself.
Once again, it is a 99% issue. Ninety-nine percent of us do NOT want perpetual war.
Thank you for this post.
Recommended.
Meese is a war monger from way back. Not only is he guilty of participating in Iran-Contra, he also thought it just dandy that RayGun bombed Granada. He came up the ranks via the military and is only protecting himself and his buds. For more info on the man you can see it here:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Edwin_Meese_III
I agree with you 100%. We have had so many discussions on that issue that I cannot count them. The war that is not a real legally declared war, that harbors POW’s that are not called POW’s and all the secrecy behind it is a Criminal act!
Kevin, as much as I love you (and I do), I’d like to smack you right now for putting Ed Meese’s ugly face in front of me without proper warning. I had myself convinced that I would NEVER have to see that again. My day is ruined.
LOL!
Can’t be said enough. TWOOPH!
{ *blergh* } Now that we’ve heard the bloviations of Ed “Anti-First Amendment” Meese, are we going to hear from Henry K. today too?
“HeyHey!Hoho! Guantanamo has got 2 go!”: Natl Day of Action Against Guantanamo at the US Capitol and one live stream up now (@Korgasm_).
Yeah, he’s pretty ugly. Worse than Bill Bennett? Surprise he hasn’t chimed in today to defend Gitmo.
Note received today from Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
It ain’t over till it’s over, Ed Meese.
Somebody must be desperate to dig up that has-been from the dustheap of history.
Having Ed Meese comment on the legality of anything should cause every Bible in every courthouse to catch fire.
Boxturtle (On the flip side, how long has it been since I could say “I hate Meeses to pieces”?)
I’m waiting for Nancy’s medium to say she channeled Ronnie and he approved.
Boxturtle (Attn Fox: You can build a story around that, but I expect royalities)
Does that mean the Iraqis we killed aren’t legally dead?
In fairness, a shoddy defense is the only possible defense for this rampantly immoral clusterf*ck..
The reason the 1% are so anti-weed is because they know those under the influence of reefer will wise up to the bullshit spouted by the likes of Ed Meese.
+1
If I write more it would be to say good post Kevin. So now I write more..jesus.
I get so angry I have to literally stay away from all this. Kafka your star has risen to blind us. Heller..you too..we are the twenty second fish caught in the nets.
Meese..what effluvium
No more war..if you want it so bad lead from the front, on point..risk all you chicken hearted bastards
The war is perpetual because the threat of exposure of the 9/11 perps (those in the shadow USG) will forever persist. That is, until they are nailed. Then the wars can end.
Kev…….must be a slow news day.
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Who rattled HIS cage????
Ed Meese! When did he get out of prison?
“Few are defending the prison in op-eds . . .”
They don’t need to. It is established and is not going anywhere in the near future. They can therefore safely “critique” it.
As was said 30 years ago: MEESE IS A PIG
Doncha mean: why isn’t that Meese shitheaded thug IN prison???
“[Meese] celebrates the “Expeditionary Legal Compound,” the “military commissions’ courthouse,” as a “world-class, state-of-the-art specifically designed to accommodate the needs of both defense and prosecutors dealing with classified information.”
LTG John “A Jap’s a Jap” DeWitt, is that you?
If one accepts Meese’s contention that those in GITMO are POWs, what is the meaning of POW in a war that never ends?
If every member of Al Queda and the Taliban said, “We surrender,” do we believe that the war would stop?
Eh? Digging up old reprehensible reprobates to *defend* reprehensible plans/whatever designed by somewhat younger reprehensible reprobates? It’s a feature, not a bug of ALL Admins now.
And to answer Mzchief @6: we most likely will not be “treated” to an actual siting of Henry the K (as we are “mis-treated” with Meese’s disgustingly hideous ugly mug on this blog post), but you can *rest assured* that the hideous stench of Henry the K is all over this one… Henry the K: definitely at least ONE of the men behind the curtain. No proof but I would bet everything on that.
Answer: a POW is whatever the PTB decide they are and for how long they shall be a POW, even if it means: for the rest of their lives. Because STFU and get used to it… or else!
No kidding! ICK. Meese’s hideous mug on this blog site just sent me back in “history” to places I’d sooner forget. Big-time War Criminal; even bigger time War Profiteer. Loathing & disgust don’t begin to cover how I feel…
Sorry. Just being silly and dreaming of the rule of law not having disappeared many years ago.
Meese should confine his public utterances to issues he’s qualified to deal with, such as getting Playboy out of 7-11′s.
Me too! Let us both dream on…. Meese behind bars would be a very good thing, indeed.
The AE911 report is quite a damning indictment of the “official” report.
I would like to add my love and respect for ed meese as have all of those who have already commented. meese was the AG when he warned ollie north that there would be an investigation into the Iran-contra operation.
Excellent, ghost. I will continue to watch for your insights.
I had the same thought. The usual Neo-Cons were probably “not available for comment.”
Honestly, my first thought was, “Ed Meese is still alive?”
I’m expecting a posthumous quote from J. Edgar Hoover about the suitability of Guantanamo as a detention prison or some such “wisdom from the past” nonsense.
BTW, an excellent dissection and rebuttal of the old dinosaur’s arguments, Kevin.
A little background on Meese’s commitment to civil liberties and the law:
Fuck Ed Meese with Ronald Reagan’s dead dick. That about sums it up.