
Screen shot from Spencer Mills' recorded footage of mass arrest outside YMCA
Over 300 people were arrested in Oakland after police ordered a march of Occupy Oakland protesters to “submit” to an arrest because they were engaged in an unlawful assembly. Hundreds were detained outside of a YMCA. In zip cuffs, many waited for hours to be escorted to a police vehicle and hauled away.
One group of protesters managed to escape detention and get into the YMCA building, when it became apparent the police were not going to let anyone leave. That group was able to go out another entrance to the building and get away from police.
The mass arrest took place hours after Oakland police in riot gear fired off all manner of weapons at protesters to “disperse ” them as they tried to take over a vacant building and transform it into a community center. These weapons included tear gas, smoke, percussion grenades, paint-filled bullets, etc.
Occupy Oakland Media reacted to the use of force by Oakland police:
Yesterday, the Oakland Police deployed hundreds of officers in riot gear so as to prevent Occupy Oakland from putting a building, vacant for 6 years with no plans for use, from being occupied and “re-purposed” as a community center. The Occupy Oakland GA passed a proposal calling for the space to be turned into a social center, convergence center and headquarters of the Occupy Oakland movement.
The police actions tonight cost the city of Oakland hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they repeatedly violated their own crowd control guidelines and protesters civil rights.
With all the problems in our city, should preventing activists from putting a vacant building to better use be their highest priority? Was it worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars they spent?
In sharp contrast, the City of Oakland declared at 10:30 pm, as protesters will still being detained outside the YMCA:
After ignoring a dispersal order, at approximately 6:30 pm, the arrest protesters invaded the YMCA and were arrested.
Simultaneously, a different group of protesters burnt an American flag in front of Oakland City Hall before breaking into the historic building. Damage to exhibits has been reported. Officers will be making arrests on site.“There is no excuse for the behavior we experienced this evening,” said Council President Larry Reid when responding to aninquiry about damage to City Hall.
“From their own posts and their letter to the Mayor and City Council, the demonstrators’ stated intention was to provoke the police and engage inillegal activity,” said City Administrator Deanna J. Santana.
As of this release, the total arrests are estimated at 200. Three police officers and one protester have been injured and three private vehicles have been vandalized.
The statement (which was clearly rushed out for the establishment press, as it is filled with typos) may be accurate, but it does not reflect what live streamer Spencer Mills (@OakFoSho) captured when he was broadcasting live from the scene. Recorded video footage from the scene shows officers did not give a dispersal order. They pushed protesters toward the YMCA and would not let them leave the scene as they ordered them to “submit” to the arrest. The protesters then did what anyone would do as a battalion of riot police closed in on them: they found the nearest escape route, which happened to be through an entrance to the building. [*See the 30-min mark of the video below.]
The city claims Occupy Oakland committed vandalism in City Hall. There is no excuse for vandalism. The city claims an electrical box and art structures were damaged. Again, inexcusable but where is the evidence of this happening outside of city officials stating this happened? City officials have demonstrated a clear animosity toward the protesters during the action that unfolded today and prior. Are we to believe they are not exaggerating the damage to the “historic building”?
Earlier in the day, protesters threw objects at officers. Those objects included rocks and bottles. There is virtually no evidence of flares or improvised explosive devices (IEDs) being thrown at officers. Yet, the city’s statement still maintains they were thrown at police. [And, IEDs is a nice way of characterizing "firecrackers" so protesters can seem more like violent extremists.]
I will not condone the throwing of objects at police, but the video captured by Mills, who was also at the scene when percussion grenades, tear gas and other weapons were being fired by police, calls into question the statements by the city that protesters were “charging” police. Yes, they were advancing on the riot police, slowly. A handful, like any protest, were egging on the riot police. But, if you watch the video the moment the riot police move on the protesters they immediately fall back. They do not let the police charge into them, which raises doubts about whether it was ever necessary to fire off any chemical weapons at protesters to force the crowd to disperse.
Additionally, statements to the press by police officers, city officials and the mayor are noteworthy because they seek to cast Occupy Oakland protesters as “domestic terrorists.” In fact, one Oakland city council member actually likens the protests to “domestic terrorism.” Those are the member’s words.
Quan told the press: This is not a situation where we had a 1,000 peaceful people and a few violent people. If you look at what’s happening today in terms of destructing property, throwing at and charging the police, it’s almost like they are begging for attention and hoping that the police will make an error.” And she called on Occupy Oakland to “stop using Oaklandas their playground.”
Deputy Chief Jeff Israel stated:
I would expect in the future, especially after what happened tonight, the level of violence and everything that preceded this on the internet, all their tweets, which they know we read, their intent is to commit acts of violence and vandalism and break into something that doesn’t belong to them.
Israel does not have to be specific. He is permitted to make a sweeping generalization about the protesters, one that casts them as nothing but individuals who intend to commit violence even though that was never the stated intention of the movement at all. And, while it is true they were going to “break into something” that didn’t belong to them, that was the act of resistance, which the city police should have handled after it happened.
Imagine if the police had let the occupiers take the building and then did what they thought they had to do immediately afterward to remove the occupiers. The rest of the day would not have been spent chasing protesters around downtown Oakland.
This is what police and the city refuse to admit. They created this problem. The occupiers had an encampment. They raided the encampment. Now, occupiers protest regularly and treat the city like a “playground” or the space that it is supposed to be for peaceable assemblies. Occupiers plan actions and, since the movement is about occupying, they constantly seek out space to hold as a hub for political action.
If the city was run by reasonable people, officials would grant occupiers the right to be in a space because the reality is that no matter how much they whine, seek to malign them as terrorists and deploy police force against protesters the Occupy movement in the Bay Area is not going to go away. In fact, force and mass arrests will only catalyze the movement further. There is too much of a culture of activism in the Bay Area for repression to successfully suppress the movement.
Quan told police: “Were there some mistakes made? There may be. I would say the Oakland police and our allies, so far a small percentage of mistakes. “But quite frankly, a majority of protesters who were charging the police were clearly not being peaceful.” She mentioned that the city was in contact with a “federal monitor” late Saturday. This means whatever was happening presumably had the consent of the federal government.
The mayor doubled down on the use of force after informing the press she was in contact with a monitor, “If the demonstrators think that because we are working more closely with the monitor now that we won’t do what we have to do to uphold the law and try keep people safe in this city, they’re wrong.”
But, this is the official Oakland Police Department crowd control policy:
If after a crowd disperses pursuant to a declaration of unlawful assembly and subsequently participants assemble at a different geographic location where the participants are engaged in non-violent and lawful First Amendment activity, such an assembly cannot be dispersed unless it has been determined that it is an unlawful assembly and the required official declaration has been adequately given. [emphasis added]
There never was an order. Officers presumed that because they had ordered “marchers” to disperse earlier that the new assembly in front of the YMCA did not need any order to disperse. They proceeded to detain the protesters and they arrested hundreds of people, who were given virtually no opportunity to leave the area.
Moreover, one journalist, Gavin Aronsen of Mother Jones was arrested and taken to jail. Susie Cagle and Kristin Hanes, both journalists, were arrested and then “unarrested,” as they managed to convince police they were press.
Sgt. Jeff Thomason and a person with a local CBS news affiliate also described the protesters as “detainees.” The following video features Thomason, who claims officers “have no injuries reported on the detainees right now.” The truth is, no officers on duty check for injuries so they don’t know. They do know what officers were “injured.” That is why Thomason rattles off the details on the three police officers injured, injuries that will be used as part of the justification for the use of force by police. After all, any number of things can be done if you are handling “detainees” and not protesters.
Finally, here is a firsthand account from someone who participated in the actions by Occupy Oakland from the late morning to the late evening. The account by Kevin Army doesn’t dehumanize them by likening them to “domestic terrorists” or “detainees.” He describes a group that tried to do something with the best of intentions and was thwarted. They then protested throughout the rest of the day and night and, while there were individuals who likely engaged in vandalism and violence, this should not define who has been regularly engaging in demonstrations in the Bay Area since October:
One of the remarkable things about Occupy is how kind people are to each other. As I have at other protests here, I met many good and decent people with whom I had great conversations. Most of these people really care about the state of our world, and have embraced this movement with gratitude for having a place where they can figure out ways to take that caring and turn it into tangible action.
In other words, a few occupiers probably committed acts they should not have and should be held responsible. Likewise, the police committed acts and those that violated the rights of citizens deserve to be held responsible too.
One might find the amount of police that violated people’s rights is proportional to the number of protesters that damaged property or threw objects at police. And, so one might ask themselves if the city is at fault here for increasing the level of hostility toward protesters from the Bay Area?
Consider the fact there are police spokespeople and city officials likening the movement to “domestic terrorism.” Convincing Bay Area residents that this movement is being fueled by violent extremists is all officials have to do before they can justify any number of civil liberties violations, some of which were seen January 28. What government at all levels is able to do to African Americans, Latinos, Muslims, and other historically dehumanized or marginalized groups is possible once officials successfully cast Occupy Oakland participants as boogeymen.
So, here’s the critical question: Is the city in some way to blame for laying the groundwork for ugly violent scenes, like what occurred January 28, to unfold?



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Kevin, the answer to that question is an unqualified Fuck Yes. I am still trying to sort out my feelings about everything that happened yesterday. I can confirm that much of what the City of Oakland and the MSM are reporting this morning are not just exaggerations, they are out and out lies.
Having watched this movement unfold in Oakland and having talked to the Imperial Empress Quan myself, I have come to the conclusion that this is a war. Plain and simple. Quan thought her activist credentials gave her some sort of leadership role in Occupy and when that turned out to be wrong, she wasted no time sending in her flying monkeys with sticks and teargas. The City has kept up an unprecedented level of harassment of peaceful protestors ever since. They’ve attempted to thwart our right to assemble and they are targeting people over and over again for manufactured crimes.
It’s too late, IMHO, for any sort of reconcilation between the City of Oakland, Quan, Santana, Jordan, et al and Occupy Oakland. I don’t see this dynamic changing any time soon.
The City is also to blame for the violence in myriad other ways. They have chosen to funnel money into redevelopment schemes and militarizing the police department and they continue to cut critical social services, closing schools, laying off city workers and putting things like Children’s Fairyland and the Zoo on the chopping block while Santana pulls down a cool $250K a year. And they spend bazillions of dollars on riot police every time OO tries to have a fucking picnic in the park and then they pretend that they were forced to spend that money. It’s hard to explain how angry people here are and how deaf the City seems to be to that anger.
Violent protestors? Everytime I watch the youtube videos, it is the Oakland police who are violent. Just like in seattle, when news narrators said something idiotic like “protestors came armed with pepper spray solvent and gas masks to taunt police”
Wrong. Those aren’t arms. Those aren’t taunts. Those are protective measures against a brutal police force.
Great comments. Thank you for sharing your insight.
The larger point you are making is one worth considering. The presence of riot police is not a show of peace. It is in and of itself a show of violence. You only stand clad in riot gear if you expect to experience violence. If there is no violence happening, you believe something violent might happen soon. Perhaps, it will be caused by you.
How do human beings react to violence? They try to defend themselves. They try to flee. When police do not let this happen or consider this natural reaction to be “resisting arrest,” they are suggesting they have no effect on people when they are armed and ready to unleash force on public assemblies.
Thank you for keeping up with all this and especially for countering the relentless BS of the MSM. We need all the help we can get. I really appreciate it and I love reading about what’s going on with other Occupies. Solidarity!
One of the Occupiers beaten by cops is a dying teen whose insurance company won’t help her get a bone marrow transplant. (More on the teen here.)
Thanks, PW. I watched Miran being put on the stretcher last night on the ustream. Pirate, the ustreamer, said he thought she might be a girl as young as 12. She’s 18 but now I can see what made him say that. This is absolutely why we occupy. And why we’re raging through our tears.
We have to know how to talk about Occupy in such a way that power cannot use language against us. It is my hope that my posts help people react and respond to official statements designed to malign and marginalize Occupy, especially because many of the statements are wholly disingenuous.
Here’s a statement for you… Occupy provoked an attack, got it, and are now whining about it. Keep it up and someone will win the Darwin Award.
Really?
I was watching last night on the UStream when the protesters were all shouting something like “take off her cuffs.” I wonder if this is the “her” they were trying to help. I was watching all the people in the cuffs, sitting calmly, then walking calmly to the “booking.” Or whatever the intake operation prior to loading the buses. I was thinking about how tight my cuffs were and that they were only on for about 2.5 hours. We have read about the nerve damage lots of people have suffered from the zip cuffs.
A couple of evenings ago in Santa Fe, some people said to be with Occupy SF went to a dinner for legislators that was sponsored by ALEC. At some point, papers were thrown. One of the legislators claimed a guest of his suffered an injury to her eye from the thrown papers. This has led to the charge on the floor of the legislature that there were “terrorists” at the event.
We see where this is going. And the logical extension is shown in Oakland, where the police and administration are definitely out of control.
You are projecting: your anger on to the protestors. You are the one threatening them with death and blaming them for death if you cause it for them. You sound like the typical authoritarian, self-enclosed in your own beliefs about how these protestors deserve to be ‘punished’. You never read my answers to your posts. You are only interested in your own beliefs. Do you really think watching those videos that you can create your own facts??
The only people rioting here are this willful minority that lives by the sword for love of power and profit.
Thanks for this report, Kevin.
I’ve been in touch with a friend who lives amidst this, hope they’ll come on the thread to report personal experiences. One question is: is #Occupy helping Oakland? Or simply focused on a national audience?
I thought you already had that award neatly tucked away!
I don’t care enough about Occupy to get mad about it. This clause however struck me…
That is one of the all time idiotic statements ever. What fool actually thought they could squat themselves into a “Community Center”? If this is the quality of thinking this group has, then it’s no wonder nobody takes them seriously.
I think it is pretty clear the police are trying to provoke a violent response from the Occupy protesters. Once that happens, the “domestic terrorists” label will stick and public support will weaken.
Violence.named.one
In your belief system, if you lived in Oakland, you would not consider a public building to be the property of you as a public citizen, citizen of Oakland, no??
Spock.
Kevin you do amazing work! I always feel like I have a clear view of what’s happening wherever it is when I tune into what you report.
A suggestion about language and frames. The Us v Them language is a tactic, that of the 1%. In our embattled state it is a natural human instinct to fall into that in response when peaceful protests or marches or occupations are further provoked by police, by plants or their violence. They know this. They also know how difficult it must be for us – see I’m doing it – to herd cats into a demonstration. How there will be always ‘stragglers’ or wanderers who fall out of line or script and pick up a rock and heave it or tell a cop to fuck off when provoked. We know they have ‘handlers’ who sow dissension during the actions, a ‘divide and conquer’ tactic. I see attempts at that here and all over the blogosphere, on the news, in city hall. Washington and state houses have lobbyists, etc. etc.
But
As difficult as it is, as hardwired as humans are to react when provoked, I want to stress that refraining from falling into the ‘us v them’ dialogue when possible is so important. I want to say necessary because if we engage with them on that level, in that way, we play into their hands. They have the money and guns if not the truth. As we do that, We become pawns in their game and because it’s rigged, they determine and broadcast who the ‘winners and losers’ are and will be. But as people talk, as occupations and protests continue, more and more when the majority sees, in case after case that it is the status quo itself – the rigged game, on wall street, on main street, at courthouses and city parks, statehouses and the smiling insurance guy sitting between you and your doctor – when people see that the status quo itself is the provocation and which has emboldened people to occupy and protest, get arrested and degraded because of that ‘status quo’/SNAFU, then the conversation won’t be us-and-them. It’ll just be us.
Thanks again Kevin!
Valid concern. Though I think the plan to take a vacant building, if successful, would have begun to make a meaningful contribution to Oakland.
I think both Occupy Oakland and Oakland police have an interest in casting the other as “violent.” One is granted the authorization to use force by the state and the other is not. So, therein lies the key issue. One can get away with force while the other is expected to remain peaceful at all costs even in violent situations.
Why don’t you go and bitch-slap that person you see in the mirror?
I watched several hours of it on a live split-screen feed, with Spencer on the left, and an ABC news chopper on the right. It was shooting fish in a barrel for the OPD. You could clearly see from the chopper camera that they blocked the protesters off at either end of the street, and herded them in front of the YMCA.
Media reports said that protesters tried to “occupy” the YMCA. But you could clearly see from the overhead that the cops herded blocked them there, and that protesters entered the building only after the order to “Submit to the arrest” came.
OPD repeated the announcement endlessly: “You are under arrest. Submit to the arrest.” Before that, there was no order to disperse.
This is all on video, and will certainly be shown in court. It’s clear entrapment.
Taking a building is going to make a contribution to Oakland? In what fantasy running through your head does squatting in someone elses building, make a contribution? I mean seriously, do you people have anything to say for yourselves besides gimmee?
Book Salon up with Bruce Bartlett’s The Benefit and The Burden: Tax Reform-Why We Need It and What It Will Take hosted by James K. Galbraith
Thanks for your superior reporting on OO and others Kevin.
The key issue indeed is the police authorization to use force, as important of course is how and why. Sometimes on paper their policies appear reasonable and measured. I wonder how much emphasis in training is put on non-violent reaction to non-violent protest. Very little I imagine. Militarization of civilian police has become prevalent and violence by the police endemic. They are taught to react in fear and for their own safety only. Add to the mix some severe political animus and we have a recipe for disaster unfolding. You are there for the beginning of the language creep to “terrorist” and “detainees” for civilian protesters. (for the Left only) I don’t think there will be any backing off of this sort of inflammatory rhetoric. Constitutional rights are just there for the State’s convenience, at least that’s how it appears to me.
Again, thanks for all you do.
Is that you, Dick Cheney?
American Exceptionalism? or Police State Exceptionalism?
http://bits.sinshinelove.com/post/13581020639/kids-ziptied
Mindful that this is Oakland rather than somewhere in, say, Alabama. . .
I think something very strange and alien is growing in this petri dish.
What is idiotic about trying to make some use out of a building that is just collecting dust? If the banks take bailouts from tax payers then refuse to help people that have trouble paying their mortgages are surprised that people react, they are idiotic.
Occupy Oaklands attempt at using an abandoned building is a good idea. These buildings are being squatted already by the 1%. They own them, but don’t use them, or have any plans on using them. Just an abandoned, non used building.
Change the argument. The 1% and the cities allow these buildings to go empty while tens of thousands are homeless across this country.
I think we are at the point for a national expose of “Who owns Oakland?”
“Decisions must now go through court monitors, as department steps closer to federal takeover” … Thelton Henderson of US District Court of Northern District of California and Senior District “Judge Strips Power from Oakland Police” (The Bay Citizen, by Shoshana Walter, Jan. 24, 2012)
Raw video footage– “Occupy Oakland:Oakland Police Department Blatantly Lies About IED’s” (DailyKos.Com, Jan. 29, 2012)
From “Clashes in Oakland: 400 Arrests, Tear Gas, Flash-Bang Grenades” (Alternet.Org, by Joshua Holland, Jan. 29, 2012):
Will the events of January 28, 2012 put the Oakland Police Department under Federal receivership?
Hey, Shooter242. Maybe this might be a clue into how if Occupy Oakland were allowed to use the building as a community convention center, the city of Oakland might benefit. Also, notice the desire to cover this good news up.
http://the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=27357
The USA is a police state and the number one priority is making sure its citizens KNOW that.
The Henry J. Kaiser Auditorium belongs to the citizens of Oakland. It has been vacant since 2005. So it’s not “someone else’s building,” it is ours. Occupy Oakland’s encampment at Oscar Grant Plaza offered food, shelter, space for organizing community activities, an Interfaith tent, medics, a children’s village and a library. Those were the activities that we hoped to continue at the Kaiser building, which sits unused while people remain homeless and hungry in Oakland.
Ma’am, that process continues unabated thru out our nation, and has done so for decades now . . .
This will only get uglier and uglier as more and more violence is propagated and the authorities and 1% crack down harsher and harsher.
It’s how empires disintegrate . . . n this one is due to melt. THis is just the beginning tho, it’s gonna get MUCH worse before it gets better . . . the police state WILL intensify and civil liberties will erode along with jobs, housing, food and medical care.
KevinG, glad you got Mayor Quan’s latest gaffe into your diary regarding ‘Oakland as a playground’ . . . pure sick shit 1% empire lap dog talk.
This is really creepy. After reading this account of yesterday’s Oakland actions, and several other accounts, I attempted to send the following email rant to Mayor Quan on the Oakland City administration form.
The letter was blocked as a “security threat”. I have written letters before a few times on this subject. I tried three times. The letter was blocked as a security threat each time– and there was a link to file a form if I thought there was an error.
The link did not work when I tried it.
Here is the rant I tried to send.
Do you think Quan is being blocked by someone from hearing such complaints-
or what?
Letter to Mayor Quan:
As a 68 year old retired resident of Richmond, your neighbor, I am proud that Richmond City Council voted not to participate in the illegal and egregious police tactics employed in Oakland.
What a horrid disappointment to watch the news and hear the official slant which was
inexcusably false.
Police did not need riot gear. They did not need to be deployed in such numbers.
The demonstrators should not have been demonized. If they entered a boarded up city building or the YMCA that was not an assault or an invasion of any kind.
Your version of events is really crazy–
and shameful.
You really have no right to put out so much misinformation and no right to hurt the people who live in Oakland.
They are heroes to put up with your police violence, just to show us how corrupt and dishonest are the people in charge.
I am horrified by your version of events and your waste of funds and your acting illegally to hurt civilian protesters.
How dare you let the police act out such violence and such stupidity as to attack an entire crowd, pen them in, and not let them leave.
The mayor and the acting police commissioner should be forced to resign.
Period.
Nationwide solidarity protests have just begun (7pm EST).
http://interoccupy.org/solidarity-with-occupy-oakland-info-page/
Syolles, I don’t know why you can’t get your letter to go through but perhaps there are so many that they have shut down the system. Quan has been known to close down her Facebook page due to negative comments.
In any case, thank you so much for your wonderful letter. I suggest you send it to the SF Chronicle and see if they will print it. Every once in a while they print a supportive letter just to make it seem as if their treatment of OO is fair and balanced.
Worse than that.
A precedent for labeling is set, and then a precedent for violent repression will be set, and thanks to NDAA, indefinite detention against US Citizens on US Soil will fully begin.
We WILL be disappeared, renditioned elsewhere in some cases . . . n soon it will begin to look like Red Dawn without the foreign incursion.
Block citizen groups spying and eaves dropping and ratting out neighbors for their own safety and some crumbs of 1% drippings into their gruel . . .
I mock it all a bit, but I honestly do expect much, much worse including disappearing and renditions . . . and coming much much sooner than I thot even a few years ago.
The pace is quickening . . . briskly.
“Don’t Stop Me Now” – Queen
@Caulkthewagon live streaming the Boston solidarity march now.
Fully agreed . . . the push is to hit and hit hard the northern progressive bastions where dissent lives . . . the southern regions are already enslaved to the system.
There is a report that Anonymous has posted the home address of the mayor. If you can find the link, the letter can be hand-delivered.
To answer yer q at the end, not hardly, the OPD and Quan will get medals (or get to keep their jobs) as long as they are useful to the 1%.
NO ONE, will be held accountable in any massive or meaningful way. Only a token few will be tongue lashed and smacked with wet noodles.
However, these ARE the signs of empire crumbling . . . n THAT, is inevitable for lack of caring for the masses.
In the meantime, it’s gonna hurt a lot of people, this crumbling.
Re #Occupy Boston live stream w @Caulkthewagon:
Boston marchers chant: “Hella hella Occupy the system has got to die” and “Banks got bailed out, we got tear gassed.”
Boston PD is out videoing the marchers … and OccuPuppy!
Next on the venue is Washington, DC.
I recall a few Greatful Dead shows there in the 70′s . . . maybe 80′s, altho the Oakland Auditorium was also a fav venue for them back then. Sigh, to see this all take place . . . sad.
I’m one who is a bit skeptical that it was proper or tactical to THINK of taking over the building tho, I mean, this is NOT Mario Savio’s People’s Park anymore . . . things are different, the stakes are MUCH higher and the penalties are much worse.
The ONLY thing that keeps me thinking favorably about this recent action and decision at all is the fact that the ‘throwing of our bodies on the machine’ is as valid today as it was then, or thru out history when the masses rose for their just dues.
Hard times, and harder times coming I fear.
Thanks for all your on scene local reporting ma’am . . . *thumbsup*
No, she’s not being blocked but yours and other attempts to criticize are likely being funneled into a data base that records who and where you are.
So, tag, they know you now.
Just be aware of this fact.
I would not recommend that . . . great way to get apprehended and disappeared, fast. Whether you use the US Mail or deliver it personally.
A massive petition/letter now, with millions of sigs, is a whole nother ball game . . . a singular effort is asking for trouble bigger n any of us should want at this point, having to stand alone.
This is NOT Rosa Parks bus riding people . . . she was a HERO, but you will never be known for YOUR efforts in this regard.
Hey Larue, I had a lot of reservations about Kaiser being the right building for mostly strategic reasons and doubts about whether a longshot attempt to occupy it was worth the social capital we’d using up defending ourselves in the MSM. But the past two days have convinced me otherwise. I am putting together a diary about that now. Thanks for your encouragement, it is appreciated.
Re Occupy London Stock Exchange …
To the tune of the “Yellow Submarine”:
Occupy The Banks For the First Time Visitor
Everything happens more quickly today than it did yesterday. I fear that your vision will prove accurate. It seems to me that all the pieces are being put into place to effectuate it.
Re New York CIty:
The understanding is that no one is foolish enough to make any singular move. The posting of the address by itself is a sufficient message.
I know quite a few people who got involved in Occupy Oak when it got started: mainstream progressives. The local view of this–not what’s fed to the MSM–is that participation has steadily shifted to the “traditional leftist/anarchist” activists (the folks who belonged to the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade back when I was a Berkeley). Taking over Kaiser “because The People own it and The People need a place to sleep” is a big step beyond where the vast majority of the progressive crowd is, and this is annoying the vast majority of the folks who support the Occupy movement in general.
The OPD is definitely not past it’s ugly “Riders” past, shoots before asking questions, and should rightly–along with the very confused Jean Quan–be beaten over the head with their stupidity and inability to approach the situation without making it ten times worse.
But sorry folks, the Oakland Occupy “consensus” is detrimental to the cause because it destroys so much “capital” (as mentioned a couple of times above) that has been getting the movement closer and closer to getting actually positive mainstream coverage. I’m with them that we should do more to help the homeless, but they’ve hijacked the cause for their attitude and goals that even progressives have no problem calling “Trotskyite”….
Weren’t you just criticizing someone for linking Alex Jones?
You’re probably right. But still.
Thinking about it … wonder if we’re better off with Obama winning. It’s not like it’ll make much difference on policy … and that way at least it’ll keep the right-wing fringe in full freakout mode about federal intervention/detention precedents.
If I had a dime for every “mainstream progressive” who made a post or comment like this … well, I’d have a boatload of money and donate it all to OO.
An interesting thing to consider about those who provide the mainstream coverage you covet. By definition, that is coverage being produced and broadcast BY THE CORPORATIONS BEING PROTESTED HERE. Did it ever occur to you that the only way they are going to give any movement positive coverage is if doing so advances the objectives of the corporations paying to put shit on the air? If your vision for the movement is to ass-kiss for media coverage – like a damn Democratic politician – that’s a pretty lame vision.
To quote Adam Savage: “That’s what I’m talkin’ about!”
Yep, that’s right. Unless we keep it away from the mainstream it won’t be pure and perfect revolution.
Really, at some point, even the corporations start to realize that the conventional wisdom, short-term greed, etc. is actually disadvantageous for the health of the corporation. Insisting that this can never be the case is a self-fulfilling prophecy that *prevents* progressivism from becoming “popular” (“mainstream” if you will).
See this month’s SciAm article on the Cocoa Crisis, where the Chief Science Officer of Mars makes the case for immediate and drastic climate change action (“But!” he sputters, “ALL corporations MUST be promoting the lies against climate change! They must! They’re ALL greedy! By DEFINITION!”)
Why should we be surprised ? After all, they are just practicing and trying hard to ward off the G8 protest, among others. They must think if they have a bad enough rep like the LAPD or the NYPD, they no one will ( cough ) get out of hand. Makes me long for the late 60s/early 70s.
What I fear is how many songs and patriots will join the ranks of ” Four Dead in Ohio ” before someone comes to their senses.
It is a reflection of the desperation of the elites. They are recognizing that they can only maintain their control by force.
I agree. But that doesn’t mean they can’t or won’t make things VERY unpleasant for any dissenters. I wish we had a better strategy for resisting their efforts than just having the brave among us put their bodies on the line to get abused.
Thank you for the story and the video. Unfortunately the occupation of a building will always end in conflict with the police in the long run. No matter if its in Oakland, in Denmark, Germany or Italy. Someone owns the building on paper and that is all that the courts are interested in. In the past native people could collectively share common property. That now is only history. Nonetheless, trying for rights to use a building for common good, a purpose that will benefit all in the long run, is the right thing to do! Community needs a community space. Denied that, there will always be trouble on the streets, no matter which issue we are talking about. What I find annoying is that nowadays people can be declared a criminal before the offense. An occupation that has not even started can not be punishable. Is it now, in the US? Using teargas to disperse a crowd without clearly telling a crowd to disperse is likewise illogical. In the video, I do get the impression that the police has little if any experience with non-violent protest. Never was an order to disperse spoken. Not by the police lines, not by the helicopters speakers. Yes, there will always be a few who abuse the protest to use violent means. This should not happen, but it does. The way police then treats the mass of protesters will determine how the crowd will behave. It is a very good idea to start having a spokesman from the police along with the leading group of a protest. To avoid rallys throughout town and to allow compromises and an understanding before violence and inappropriate arrests occur. If that appears impossible, because any type of protest is forbidden, then I must ask: Is that not a clear sign of repression? That would appear to be incompatible with a democracy that values free speech. Thinking back, looking at the way protests against the Vietnam war were dealt with, comparatively protesters are not in a worse situation. However, there still lingers this unspoken threat by the mainstream conservatives and authortities down the big media: you are an enemy if you are against our policies. And the only means to deal with enemies is eliminiation. This has never worked and it will never. Nothing good ever came of not looking, not speaking and only removing unwanted, but legitimate critcism.
Putting one’s body on the line to get abused is pure foolishness without the confidence that “the whole world is watching” and that there are enough moral or caring people left in the world to put the political pressure for changes and to grow the number of people willing to put their bodies on the line to a point that the authorities cannot cope with.
The Civil Rights movement in the US was won on the basis of (1) the limits to the number of jail cells available in a short period of time to governments that prided themselves on fiscal restraint, (2) the public pressure that caused the intervention at the direction of Robert F. Kennedy of the US Department of Justice to protect the protests, and (3) the political action by Lyndon Johnson to enable civil rights legislation in Congress, using the mourning after the assassination of JFK as leverage. In this the media was honest enough or supportive of the Civil Rights movement to help, and citizens could still get movement out of Congress by writing letters and creating petitions. These last two don’t currently exist.
In the current struggle, we have livestreaming and crowdsourcing of photojournalism, freelance coverage by folks like Alison McKinney, Susie Cagle, and the Citizens Radio team. Facebook, as imperfect as it is, is the way that my wife communicates what is happening with various local Occupy movements to her personal network. FireDogLake and other blogs are liveblogging events and the comments are propagating Tweets and Facebook statuses from local Occupy movements. And Occupy Supply and other efforts are providing direct material support to local Occupy movements.
And the Human Rights rapporteur for the UN has already weighed in about the suppression of Occupy protests.
The folks who carried out the American Revolution beginning in the 1760s found that annoying as well.
That is why the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution says:
And the Fifth Amendment says:
The Oakland Police Department is clearly operating extra-judicially and unconstitutionally in the way it has dealt with Occupy Oakland.
The contrary is true. Oakland’s history of having non-violent protests goes back to the 1930s and the rise of the labor movement if not earlier. Oakland was the site of a major sea terminal for shipments to the Vietnam War: protest was almost continual from around 1965 (maybe before) until the withdrawal of US personnel in 1975. Oakland was also one of the main locations of the Black Panther Party, whose non-violent exercise of their Second Amendment rights to bear arms was taken as an intention of violence. And since the 1960s has had numerous protests against police brutality by the Oakland Police Department. The OPD is anything but inexperienced with nonviolent protests, and their first response has always been repression.
Thanks for your insightful comment about the appropriate response to nonviolent protest.
As for building occupations, there is a very interesting legal question being raised. Does the public really own public buildings? Or does a state chartered administrative corporation denoted by “City of” or “County of” own public buildings with the same rights and privileges as does a private owner (especially a private corporation owner). The question is one of the philosophy of jurisprudence and not a specifically legal question; the precedents all say that all public land is owned by a federation of states, a state, a county administrative unit, or a municipal corporations — or legal entities (school boards, urban redevelopment boards, water and sewer boards) that they set up.
I take your points, but my heart aches for every single person who takes a beating from the police for participating in peaceful protest. It is just so unbalanced, the ability to deal out violence vs. the courage and moral conviction to get beat up for a principle.
I believe that a number of things are true about Occupy’s struggle:
- That the 1% have used and abused our consent to steal our wealth and place themselves at the top of a manufactured power structure;
- That the source of all that wealth and power, and the circumstance that maintains it, is the consent (willing or otherwise) of the people;
- That if such consent is removed, such as by reclaiming property by force and disregarding laws and other direction given by the 1% to the 99%, then all their power and wealth must cease;
- That no other remedy exists to end the power and wealth of the 1%, since they will not give it back willingly, nor allow the 99% to use a system designed to maintain the status quo against them;
- That therefore the eventual success of Occupy necessarily depends on the people’s willingness to engage in such acts.
The mainstream progressives you’re talking about need to wake up and realize that their strategy, although no doubt fulfilling and well-intentioned, HAS NOT BEEN EFFECTIVE. Upward financial mobility is worse in the US than in much of Europe. Income gaps resemble those in banana republics, and labor is nearly powerless. We still don’t have socialized healthcare. Every populist institution or safety net we have is under constant attack; the Constitution is being reduced to toilet paper. Progressive political third parties may as well not exist for all the influence they have in Washington or even state and local elections.
Consider that the reason why Occupy groups across the country have attracted such overwhelming oppression isn’t because they’re doing something wrong, it’s because they’re doing something right. Their ideas and actions are dangerous – to the 1%, not the 99%!
Once the people understand that what Occupy does is necessary, actions like the one in Oakland won’t COST social capital, they will GENERATE it.
Very well put.
The point is not to gain active support from most Americans. The point is keep them at least neutral or listening to prevent the government from engaging in wholesale slaughter.
There needs to be discipline in the ranks to prevent silly flag burning. That will piss off most of the 99% whether you want to admit it or not. That was one 10 pictures of the day’s event in the UK Guardian.
The Kaiser idea was a good one, but Occupy folks were the only ones who heard about the good idea. Politically, that is suicide.