[Update - 11:10 am ET] Court has adjourned for the day. Second day will begin tomorrow at 5 am EST (if you want to watch it). Sweden will be making their case against the appeal (today Assange’s legal team presented arguments for the appeal).
Montgomery for Sweden basically was arguing that the “definition” of “judicial authority” in the framework for issuing warrants was one that would encompass what all countries on the European continent consider to be “judicial authorities.” She defended the police’s ability to issue a warrant. While Rose challenged the independence of the prosecutor, who issued the warrant, Montgomery pushed back and, in fact, was interrupted multiple times by UK Lords, who appeared to dispute what she was trying to explain.
[Update - 10:45 am ET] Clare Montgomery QC is now giving a response to Rose’s arguments for appeal. She represents Sweden.
[Update - 10:38 am ET] Assange’s lawyer Dinah Rose QC has concluded her arguments before the Court. In the past half hour, this is the key point established: Swedish court determined a domestic detention order was appropriate, but didn’t consider the European arrest warrant in the case.
(By the way, Twitter consensus seems to be that Rose did an outstanding job. A few are suggesting Assange could be in a much better position if he had been represented by Rose from the beginning. Based on recent news that his former lawyers are suing him for legal fees, I agree.)
[Update - 10:15 am ET] Journalist John Pilger robustly defends Julian Assange in this op-ed for the New Statesman. This is what is at stake:
The consequences, if he loses, lie not in Sweden but in the shadows cast by America’s descent into totalitarianism. In Sweden, he is at risk of being “temporarily surrendered” to the US, where his life has been threatened and he is accused of “aiding the enemy” with Bradley Manning, the young soldier accused of leaking evidence of US war crimes to WikiLeaks.
The connections between Manning and Assange have been concocted by a secret grand jury in Virginia that allowed no defence counsel or witnesses, and by a system of plea-bargaining that ensures a 90 per cent conviction rate. It is reminiscent of a Soviet show trial.
Pilger’s analysis of what is at stake also could be an explanation for why the semantic arguments being made by Assange’s lawyers are so important.
[Update - 9:50 am ET] The European arrest warrant (EAW) system has been the focus of the hearing. The hearing opened with Dinah Rose QC of Assange’s legal team arguing, according to Alexi Mostrous, that European arrest warrants are “built on trust and a streamlining of such proceedings is to be balanced by protection of rights.” She went over European extradition law going all the way back to 1957. She cited a case before the European Court of Human Rights on whether a Swedish public prosecutor is “proper judicial authority.” And said that High Court judges nor Swedes have produced a definition of “judicial authority.”
Rose called the lower court’s ruling “inconsistent” with “judicial authority” and said it was obvious such authority must be independent of the executive and other parties.
Paul Sonne noted this is the case that Assange’s lawyers were citing when making their argument in court.
You can catch up on all the details from the hearing thus far by going through messages with the hashtag #jasup.
The central question is this: whether the Swedish prosecutor that issued the arrest warrant is independent.
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Screen shot of Sky News' feed of Assange extradition appeal hearing
The first day of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s appeal hearing in the British Supreme Court has been unfolding for hours now. The hearing started at 10:00 am GMT (which is 5:00 am EST).
The hearing is being broadcast live by Sky News, which makes this stage of Assange’s case significant. Here is the first time the world can tune in and begin to understand the European Arrest Warrant (EAW) system, which Assange’s lawyers are challenging. Specifically, they are appealing the extradition by appealing the “judicial authority” that issued the warrant.
Here are the “facts” in the case (via the Supreme Court website):
The Appellant, a journalist well known through his operation of Wikileaks, visited Sweden to give a lecture in August 2010. He had sexual relations with two women. Both women went to the police who treated their visits as the filing of complaints. The Appellant was interviewed by police and subsequently left Sweden in ignorance of the fact that a domestic arrest warrant had been issued for him. Proceedings were brought in the Swedish courts in the Appellant’s absence, although he was represented, in which a domestic warrant for the Appellant’s detention for interrogation was granted and upheld on appeal. Subsequently, an EAW for the Appellant was issued by the Swedish Prosecution Authority that set out allegations of four offences of unlawful coercion and sexual misconduct including rape. The EAW was certified by the UK Serious Organised Crime Agency under the Extradition Act 2003. The Appellant surrendered himself for arrest in the UK and, following an extradition hearing, his extradition to Sweden was ordered. The order was upheld on appeal to the Divisional Court.
[*Note: Supreme Court considers Assange a "journalist."]
Geoffrey Robertson, who served as president of the UN’s war crimes court in Sierra Leone, explained the central focus of the hearing today: judicial authority.
The principle is simple, at least in Anglo-American law. Judges must, as their defining quality, be independent of government. Police and prosecutors employed and promoted by the state obviously cannot be perceived as impartial if they are permitted to decide issues on the liberty of individuals. They are expected to be zealous in working up evidence against a suspect, so they are the last people who can be trusted to weigh up impartially the evidence they themselves have drummed up. That is a matter for a court.
So how comes it that in Sweden and 11 other continental countries, prosecutors and even policemen are allowed to issue a European Arrest Warrant (EAW), which has the draconian effect of requiring the arrest of people in another country and dragging them off for trial in the state that has issued the warrant?
For more background on the hearing, I encourage you to visit Justice4Assange.com.
Now, here is the stream of the hearing from Sky News. The hearing will run for the next few hours until 4:00 pm GMT (11:00 am ET). This is the first day of a two-day hearing.
Assange is represented by Dinah Rose QC and Gareth Peirce, who happens to be a pretty well-known human rights lawyer. Clare Montgomery QC is making arguments for Sweden.
The appeal hearing is an opportunity to wade into British justice and, more specifically, European extradition law and this issue of “judicial authority.” It may not be as sensational as the release of classified information but this shows what kind of legal cobwebs Julian Assange has to untangle in order to beat extradition to Sweden and get out of house arrest, which he has been under for 420 days.
I wrote about the basic issues surrounding the European Arrest Warrant (EAW) system back in July of last year. Here is that post.



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This seems like a nightmare to me.
IANAL, but something instinctual tells me that all of the precedents & laws that both sides are relying on are filled with contradictions.
I think we all know the answer to that question. In fact, many others have stated exactly why and whom:
http://markcrispinmiller.com/2010/12/is-karl-rove-trying-to-pull-a-siegelman-on-julian-assange%e2%80%8f/
Now this is really scary. I actually understood a point the female lawyer made, namely that a judicial authority can not come from the executive branch.
Too darned close to home isn’t it?
Obama wants him. Legalities don’t matter. Why doesn’t O just send a Seal Team to shoot him in the face?
Time stamp 10:15 above is raining cold hard twooph!
I don’t know how to respond to that other than to say that Americans do not want assassinations.
Sometimes I’m a very slow learner.
So here’s a Q. Why did the Swedish prosecutor not get a judge to sign off on the extradition order? Seems the path of least resistance.
You answered your own question.
Wish I could hang around and help update but I gotta take care of Mom. Will check in tonight.
Could happen, except it’ll look like an “accident” or “heart attack” or something like that. Remember what happened to Karen Silkwood, yet another whistleblower the PTB got “offed” by “accident.”
Hope your mom is okay.
So, today is the day the players show up in court, but when will we have a decision about whether JA will be extradited to Sweden?
Suicide by gun shot to the back of the head.
Considering Karl Rove’s involvement, my money is on a plane crash, if anything. USG would probably resort to assassination only if the sham legal system somehow failed, which doesn’t seem likely at this point. The very public legal drama for JA followed by a lengthy prison sentence is what the USG wants to prevent leaking and journalism in the future.
You mean with a rifle, Allende-style?
Google Pirate Bay, insurance file. Suiciding JA may not be the safest option for the PTB.
I thought the insurance file did not exist. There have been waaaay too many promises of document dumps by the peeps around the pirate bay to trust that there are dox waiting to be dropped. I don’t believe it.
I’m not so sure. I downloaded my version of the file from the WikiLeaks website when it was first announced.
Didn’t someone on one of these threads tell you that all the docs that Assange had have been made public, after he ran into difficulties with his original scheme of having mainstream news orgs publish the material first?
IIRC, the USG found chat logs between Manning and Assange. Pilger is being a bit disingenuous.
Really? So you have the file, but can’t access it until a key or something is released? Still, unless you’ve seen the dox, I’m not totally convinced.
My memory on those chat logs (and it is very vague so don’t rely on it) is that they are not necessarily what they are said to be. Perhaps something about tracking down servers & finding they could have been fabricated.
I do remember thinking that more info was required one way or the other and that I would not remember* details until the info and evidence got clearer.
*read a long time ago that human brain can remember only 7 things at a time, so I try to prioritize. *g*
It’s hard to keep up, but I’ve been under the impression the insurance file contents have not been released.
That is correct, a key would be released in the event of harm to JA.
I certainly cannot keep track of what is happening in this case.
I’m not sure about the insurance file. What I do know is that if they have any more documents to release, they are sitting on them. Back in August of 2011, a number of document sets were allegedly destroyed by Daniel Domscheit-Berg. And, of course, DDB also began to point people in the direction of a torrent file that could be cracked with a Guardian password so they could unlock all the uncensored US State Embassy cables.
Of subjects out there right now, WikiLeaks, Assange, Manning, etc, are some of the most complex stories to cover and write about. The gap between what I know and what many in this country know and the gap between what many this country know versus what many in countries like the UK and Australia know is wide. I constantly have to make sure I have explained what I am writing about enough so people will understand what I am trying to report. I have discussed WikiLeaks before and had what I was saying fly over people’s heads.
It is a bit vague, but my bet is that the vagueness will clear the moment that JA comes into harms way.
Kevin, the fact that WikiLeaks, Assange, and Manning haven’t been aready snuffed points to the fact that the PTB is concerned that snuffing them could open a bigger can of worms.
I don’t agree with that. I think the three will be neutralized via avenues that have been created by the system of US superpower. I don’t think they will kill anyone. It is very important to maintain a level of legitimacy so that is why the Espionage Act, etc, will be invoked.
I initially glommed onto this to find out if there was anything new. There wasn’t anything I didn’t already know or didn’t suspect, according to other reports and observed behaviors. I never looked directly at the docs myself.
Phase 2: Way overprosecution of whistle blowers or every sort renewed my interest.
Phase 3: Watching the way some of the actual evidence played out in real life, even though it came as no surprise to anyone who was paying attention. For example, making it politically impossible for Maliki to grant extraterritoriality to U.S. troops bc of wikileaks. That is some powerful stuff that I did not see the implication of earlier.
Phase 4: I’m a sucker for watching some of these proceedings in real time, so your link was much appreciated. Also makes U.S. judiciary & congress seem like whiners & cry babies bc of the ‘dangers’ of having serious matters appear live on the screen. Not only was the camera present, not rigidly fixed (cspan), but they actually switched back & forth to whoever was speaking. And the participating parties managed to behave like adults, unlike any U.S. pol or judge who gets in front of a camera.
Didn’t they wait to snuff Bruce Ivins until evidence that he might not be guilty started to come out?
I thought JA, at one time, said he had “the goods” (my terminology, not his) on the too big to fail Banks, and I thought that JA was going to release that info some time ago (whenever that was when JA first began leaking the diplomatic cables, etc).
My faulty, not to be completely trusted, memory includes thinking we had some threads – a while ago – where there was speculation that those Bank dox would never see the light of day. Then Assange was busted in that ginned up Swedish sex scandal, and I can’t recall JA talking about those bank dox since then.
Too bad. Would LOVE to see that info come up for public view. I doubt we’ll ever see that info. May be the “card” that JA is holding that may yet save his life, and I’m not joking about that, believe me.
That’s cute. Where do you get that idea?
You have better insight than I do on this, Kevin. I just know that there’s been lots of citizens (including politicians) snuffed out over the years for being whistleblowers.
I do think that the PTB in the so-called “USG” wish to make HUGE *examples* of JA & Manning… as in: this, too, will happen to you (or worse) should you *dare* to do something similar.
Peasant, I’m not sure what you mean about Americans not wanting assassinations. I suspect that there are as many or more who want JA dead in whatever way it’s done as want him alive and released, maybe more. We can see what happened to Karen Silkwood; in spite of the movie, her legacy is not driving any investigations of the nuclear industry, and didn’t at the time of her death. Perhaps the ‘suicide’ of Gary Webb should be a clarion call for looking at the relation between the govt, including the cia, and the big print media. He exposed the role of the cia in the cocaine trafficing through the contras and the spread of ‘crack’ in the US. Those were not the hyped assassinations where the wh people ‘watched’ them happen on closed circuit TV. There are others, but I’ll let you look for them.
I am so tired of acronisms, or STOA.
They are not so crass as to kill anyone. As was noted numerous times in this thread, there are various ways to disappear an annoyance.
My belief is JA is holding several cards which is causing the PTB to pause.
Most US citizens don’t give a shit. Really, let’s all sit around get warm & fuzzy watching Tim Tebow do the Tebow.
As far as being “concerned” about assassinations or disappearances, why those simply don’t happen in Team USA.
And who gives a shit if some south-of-the-border types, such as Salvadore Allende & many Chilean citizens get suddenly gone??? Not our problema, up here in Norte Americano.
The vast vast majoriy of USA citizens have never heard of Karen Silkwood, despite the excellent film, nor of Gary Webb. More’s the pity.
I do have friends and acquaintances who are aware of the assassination of US citizen, Anwar Al-Awlaki’s assassination by the USG, but hey! you know what?? They don’t give a shit. Not kidding. And these are mostly trad-Dem voters, I might add.
I have to agree: most US citizens don’t give a shit who gets assassinated where… bring on Tim Tebow & let’s get all religulously at football games! Right ON! Go Team USA, Team USA, Team USA!!!
They gotten rid of much more powerful men with much more powerful cards. JFK comes to mind.
Hope so!
True ’nuff.
OT: Just for more of that old time tin-foil hat stuff, I wanted to pass on something a little weird that happened to me yesterday.
I was noodling around in the LinkedIN, the only social media site where I have a “profile.” I have no idea if I hit some button, but all of sudden (it seemed) I was “connected” to a HUGE number of people. So what, you say?
Well, as I said, I was unaware of doing anything, yet LinkedIN somehow “connected” me to people for waaay out of my past, like people I haven’t had contact with in 30+ years, as well as my recent “ex.” How did it know to connect me with my “ex” when we were never married & never shared a name or financial or tax records??
Like: how did LinkedIn *know* to connect me to some random person that I knew briefly (and haven’t had contact with since) when I lived overseas in the late 1970s????
Not kidding. Just saying…
Were you on the book salon thread, it might have been Saturday, with the ex-FBI & ex-CIA agent? She did not believe her govt would lie to her about WMDs, so when she went to Iraq to find them, they weren’t there & her mission changed.
I stayed for about half the thread, linked her up with a couple of books she really needs to read, then bugged out, as I couldn’t bear her naivete.
I put linkedin into my spam folder, but it keeps showing up anyhow.
A niece’s whole email list got stolen by linkedin and everyone got an email from her inviting them to hook up.
Your case sounds similar.
Utterly unsurprised.
Most US citizens really wish to stay deaf, dumb & blind and not have to do any heavy lifting to figure out what’s truly going on.
Glad you referred her to books, etc. I would *like* to say that it’s “amazing” that she didn’t know that the USG was bald-faced lying about WMD in Iraq, but sadly, I can believe that she was that teh stoopit. That’s what’s really sad.
Not exactly. These were not people on any email list of mine, mainly bc I haven’t had contact with some in over 30 years & I’m clueless where they live now, much less their email addresses.
That’s what’s so weird about it. Possibly that’s why I got “connected” to my ex, but some of the others were definitely odd and out of the blue.
The ones from 30 years ago may have been looking for you.
Her not knowing there were no WMDs is how the issue came up. I outlined how I knew in 4 sentences, and asked her why she didn’t. That’s when she said ‘she would like to think that her govt wouldn’t lie to her.’
With CIA agents like that, her language and ‘culture’* skills notwithstanding, is it little wonder?
*She’s of Druze origin from Lebanon. I still haven’t figured out exactly what the Druze are all about, but they do not seem to be part of any of the more mainstream sects in the ME so I also wonder if her vaunted knowledge of ME culture is all it’s cracked up to be. emptywheel hosted, and she’s no fool, but still…
hmmmm… yeah, I was in a rel years & years ago with someone from Lebanon and remember discussions about Druze culture and religion at that time, but… it’s faded into the mists of time.
Back in the day, Beirut was called the Paris of the Levant, and you might recall that the American Univ there was a choice place to study. My impression is that, before their “troubles” in the 1970s, Lebanon was pretty westernized and not very “Arabic” (for lack of better terminology). There’s also a lot of Christians (or there used to be; I’m not sure about now) in Lebanon, which is what made it so “friendly” to westerners back then.
A LOT has changed since then.
My former (bc I’ve lost touch with them, except, who knows??? Maybe LinkedIn just hooked me up with them again??? ha ha) Lebanese pals were not at all sympathetic to the USA, and some had even studied in (gasp shudder) the former USSR. But I got the impression that they were a minority.
What this particular Druze woman would or would not know is certainly up for grabs.
My former pals, I am sure, would’ve been VERY clear that Team USA was, per usual, LYING like a rug about the WMD. But then again, as you can probably guess, I’ve always hung around with miscreants, aka those who seek the truth & search out facts, aka wisenheimers.
Good point. JFK signed his death sentence with this speech.
BTW, there’s a lively JFK thread at RawStory as we speak.
I do remember knowing that Beirut was like Paris of ME back in the day when I knew nothing about everywhere.
In the 90s, I bought a few pieces of jewelry from a small shopkeeper in Manhattan who is Orthodox Christian and still has family & property in Beirut. He answered a lot of my dumb questions with equanimity and clarity. Think he wasn’t patronizing me bc I was a customer, but seemed to appreciate that I knew a little about Lebanon and was genuinely interested to learn more. BTW, he married a JAP (Jewish American Princess) and last contact I had with him, he proudly showed me a picture of their infant daughter.
Just for you, darling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=HzSaoN2LdfU
Saw the story on the newly released tape. Will check out the discussion anon.
There’s that too. I resemble that these days. *g*
I was referring to something slightly different, that even the fully functional brain can remember only 7 things at a time.
Thanks. That JFK speech is very, uh, interesting, isn’t it? I was too young at the time to pick up on that, so this is “news” to me.
wow-weee.
lol… very good.
My reaction to the speech is the same as my reaction of any of O’s speeches. Just bc he said it, doesn’t make it so.
I know, but it was just too much fun not to share. My spiritual “little sister” sent it to me by email just this morning, which makes me wonder if she is aware that it is starting to happen to me just a wee little bit.
True. But… interesting that JFK said THAT. JFK definitely riled up *someone* and that’s for sure.
It’s a great clip and glad you shared.
You know, there’s this herb that’s supposed to help you remember stuff, but I’ve forgotten what it’s called.
That thought crossed my mind too, but we don’t know the context of that clip and can’t tell anything without the context.
It would be nice to see an extended version, etc. So much that we don’t know, but that’s not new.
Were you on any of the threads where I talk about the privately held JFK archives?
What were we talking about?
As to why Julian Assange hasn’t released the BOA docs, he’s being blackmailed.
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2011/7/5/watch_full_video_of_wikileaks_julian_assange_philosopher_slavoj_iek_with_amy_goodman
Good catch. I missed that one.
IIRC, in a recent interview he expressed concerns regarding his kids. Don’t know if it’s related or not but…
He made an off-hand remark about them and there was no follow up question.
The interesting part of that statement about blackmail is when taken with the “insurance file”. If something happens to Assange, Manning, and Wikileaks, the blackmailer loses their power to intimidate. If the relevant files are distributed widely so that no single person knows what they have until they either get a key or break the encryption, the cost of tracking every last one of them down is immense and time-consuming. In that event, the BoA documents might be the first to surface.
Thanks. But was DDB the complication? I would guess from your JA quote that whatever dox wl got was obtained in a way that would put JA in jail for criminal acts. Any ideas what he meant?
No, missed it. If you see this, try to *remember* (ha ha) and point me to your previous discussions about that. Would love to know more (or post here later; I’ll swing by again).
Thanks for that. Sadly, not surprised.
Still say that JA had really *watch his back.* It’s clear that the PTB are mightily pissed off. JA: another true hero of our times. Hope he enjoys good health and a long life. All the best.
I have no idea what he was talking about. From the quote, it would seem he thinks it would be obvious for people to guess what threat was used to blackmail him, but it’s going right over my head.
I’m convinced the NDAA was written specifically for JA.
Possibly, as well as a warning for others who might consider treading where JA has trod.
I would believe that that was snark PP…C
Here’s the link to the Mary Ferrell website.
Mary Ferrell, recently deceased, lived in Dallas. At the time of the assassination, she started collecting secondary docs. Developed quite a collection.
My neighbor’s mentor, an investment banker, has a side interest in JFK assassination. He paid my neighbor to start digitizing the collection so it would be searchable, something she worked on for a couple of years, not quite a decade ago. It now contains all of Ferrell’s docs plus docs that the USG has released.
I asked my neighbor if she had developed any impressions about who did it. She said not really, she pretty much stuck to the technical aspects of the job. But added that CIA, Bay of Pigs was definitely an ingredient. And that LBJ might have been involved.
I have a friend in Houston, whose father was in TX politics around the 1940s. She told me that her father claimed that LBJ sometimes made sure his political opponents bit the dust. When I alerted my friend to the website and told her what my neighbor said, she related the following.
On the day of the assassination, her father couldn’t get in touch with her until late afternoon. His first words on the telephone to her were: JFK figured out how to become president.
FWIW.
I have enough conspiracy wrt O and am too far behind on JFK to start delving into it.
WRT O, have you seen the Columbia PR release when O won the election. Must be one of the most bizarre such docs of all time. 4 short sentences. Followed by 3 sentences mentioning a few other Columbia alum names. For their first alum to become the most powerful person in the world.
eCAHN, you wrote “JFK figured out how to become president.” Did you mean to write LBJ?
Ooops. That’s a bad typo. Yes, I did mean LBJ. Thanks for catching it.
Mods, if you see this, could you change the JFK in the sentence above FWIW to LBJ in my 78? Thanks.
Thanks. Have added the website to my “favorites” for later review.
I, too, have heard gossip/rumor/stories about LBJ of a similar nature. Hard to say, although even if LBJ was involved, it wasn’t just LBJ… there was a huge heap of others with their fingers in the pie. Never added up, that’s for sure.
Thanks also for the BHO Columbia announcement. it is a tad odd. Esp right after O was “elected,” a lot of rightwing/Tea Party types sent out a lot of emails questioning O’s alleged attendance/graduation at/from Columbia. Initially I thought it was just typical ginned-up conservative bullshit sour grapes. Now I *wonder* about a LOT of stuff with O, but you and I have had several “discussions” on that topic already.
and so: on it goes…
eCAHN, the other day I was speaking to one person about another person, not gossip, just info, and I used the name of the person I was speaking to for the other person. I sure did get a kick out of the song Memories.
BTW, for a good account of one view of the JFK assassination, read Russ Baker, Family of Secrets, to see connections to GHWB.
Read it in 09. Here’s what I wrote in my book log
Actually, they may have been destroyed by DDB.
That I agree.