
Zuccotti Park right after Occupy Wall Street was evicted (photo: david_shankbone)
WikiLeaks published a Homeland Security Department (DHS) report yesterday that showed DHS had been monitoring the Occupy movement. Naturally, those that had been participating in Occupy protests reacted to the news. They were outraged that DHS would suggest that growing support for the Occupy movement increased the possibility of violence. They were upset that Homeland Security put together a report that suggested the Occupy movement posed “risks” or “threats” to “critical infrastructure” in the country.
John Hudson of The Atlantic, however, finds the “hoo-ha” about DHS “spying” on the Occupy movement “adorable,” and by that he has a banal and condescending view of the Occupy movement’s reaction to the report.
Hudson writes:
Perhaps Homeland Security’s fear of the movement is exaggerated but this summary merely reads like a worst-case-scenario research document compiled from publicly available sources. Could Occupy protesters pose a risk to “critical infrastructure”? Sure. So could scores of Justin Bieber fans. In any event, it’s not a breach of civil liberties to draw up such a document. Mostly, it shows how boring it must be to work at DHS, scheming up scenarios that are probably never going to happen.
The Dissenter‘s coverage was mentioned in Hudson’s post. So, I feel compelled to challenge Hudson’s conclusions and failure to understand why the report is troublesome.
Hudson used this quote from me in his post:
The suppression of Occupy is nothing less than an attack on those who would try to exercise their civil liberties, their rights and seek to energize democracy.
In doing so, Hudson totally ignored the key point that the report WikiLeaks uncovered led me to make.
The report alluded to the potential risks the Occupy movement posed to “critical infrastructure.” What influence, if any, did this report have on decisions by political leaders or law enforcement to crackdown on Occupy groups?
Hudson dismisses the possibility that the conclusion in the report had any bearing on the Occupy movement by saying it must be “boring” to work at DHS and scheme up “scenarios that are probably never going to happen.” But, that ignores the reality, which is that these “scenarios that are probably never going to happen” are what heads of police departments and mayors of metropolitan areas repeated to justify bringing an end to ongoing 24/7 Occupy protests back in November and December of last year.
What kind of life does a report like this have? Surely, it was not only read by employees of Stratfor. It presumably was read by other officials in the country. It possibly helped influence many leaders’ views on the Occupy movement.
Additionally, since Hudson’s post seems to be all about accuracy and not distorting the actual content of the report, it is worth sharing that I did not read the Rolling Stone article from Michael Hastings and then write a post designed to agitate the Occupy movement. I read the report itself and posted just about the same time that Rolling Stone went to publish Hastings’ article. I drew my conclusions without reading Hastings’ “ominous appraisal.” And, Firedoglake and Truthout may be part of the Occupy information bloodstream, but given that the movement has reawakened democracy in this country (something TIME magazine acknowledged), I see that as an honor and not something that makes Firedoglake or Truthout less sophisticated than the Rolling Stone or The Atlantic.
Cenk Uygur’s point on The Young Turks was misguided. The issue is not that the Tea Party was monitored or not monitored or that it was not monitored as closely as the Occupy movement. The issue is the fear and hyperbole in the report that may have influenced how political leaders and members of law enforcement responded to the presence of the Occupy movement in cities and states all over the country.
Do I think that the report shows the Occupy movement was “spied” on by DHS? No. I think that the employees that put together the report, whether they were part of a private contractor or the department itself, were simply pulling sections of articles and piecing together a report. That’s why I used the word monitored.
And, actually, Hastings never called it “spying” either. Kilkenny did in her headline. This is important because Hudson seems to be suggesting that Hastings and I played a role in making the Occupy movement go hysterical. Well, a significant portion of the Occupy movement reacted like that because they recalled seeing vehicles marked Homeland Security near their encampments or daily protests. It had nothing to do with misrepresenting the contents of the report. In fact, a number of people in the movement tweeted at me saying something to the effect, “Really? We needed WikiLeaks to tell us this was happening?” or “Is this really news?”
The outrage stemmed from the fact that they believed their suspicions of being watched might have been confirmed, which is not wholly unreasonable. If the Office of Infrastructure Protection put together a report on the Occupy movement, other divisions of DHS were probably doing work involving the Occupy movement too.
Hudson has only written a couple of posts on the Occupy movement. He thinks the Stratfor release from WikiLeaks has been mostly dull so far. That may be why he scoffed at this report. In any case, he chose to deride those who truly considered the implications of the report and overlooked the reality that citizens in the Occupy movement have been rightfully concerned about Homeland Security’s possible role in cracking down on the movement for months because they themselves were victims of the crackdown.



36 Comments

What the hell are they afraid of?
Who the hell is requesting all this surveilance?
Why?
Can Mr. Atlantic know it all answer those questions?
AS I commented earlier, the richer an more powerful they get, the more more paranoid.
And with good reason.
We are greater threat to them, and they have more to fear from us.
Huh, who hasn’t the DHS targeted in their paranoia? Tea Party, OWS, internet, social media….they might as well mount a camera to every American’s head with a live feed back to Napolitano’s office.
What is instructive is that this summary that “merely reads like a worst-case-scenario research document compiled from publicly available sources” caused and a coordinated series of evictions beginning in November. It doesn’t matter where the coordination originated, but it is clear now that this reports (and others like it from other “counter-terrorism” offices caused a serious breach of civil liberties.
By the way, did Mr. Hoo Ha subscribe to Stratfor?
Not to worry. This is just Lieberman protecting the Homeland. s/
All of those white colored cars on the left side of the picture of Zuccotti Park and on the right side of the picture of the park at the top of this post, were posted there the whole time Occupy occupied the park. At night time the park was completely surrounded with people in uniforms. It WAS like a concentration camp. Down by the Tree of Life prayer circle, just across the street on the NW corner sat an NYPD listening box, suspended up in the f***ng air 24/7 with kleig lights and a weather station on it. It WAS creepy. The only counterpoint to the constant monitoring and supervision of OWS was the free spirit of real democracy and the willingness of participants to open their hearts to each other and to express the courage of their convictions.
http://tomthumbsgallery.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/for-all-those-camping-cool-cats-at-occupied-wall-street/
I’ll bet the folks over at TPM are just fine with DHS spying. Of course if a Republican wins the White House, they’ll shit bricks and clutch their pearls over the same policy.
Tell me the last tea party event that was infiltrated or violently broken up by the police. With citation please. I’ll wait….
I don’t get the hand wringing.
We HAVE no rights, they are gone.
Have you people not been aware of Patriot Act?
Constant state of war, emergency powers, now NDAA?
This is old news, these efforts to take absolute control of the masses.
YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS!
You can be watched, listened to, monitored on the internet, and more . . . and now disappeared without reason.
Just what part does Occupy not understand, they are being dealt with severely as possible (the thin line is not to provoke mass riots) and so is all dissent and commentary . . .
Kevin, this report from DHS didn’t influence shit, the PTB were gonna quash Occupy any way they could other than to provoke mass rioting by millions upon millions.
N the PTB will quash any and all dissent in the media and paint someone as bad guys (as they paint Occupy for using up valuable and costly law enforcement budgets) and EVERYONE OF US, who dissent in any manner, shape or form is now subject to harsh measures at any time without recourse to counsel or communication or anything.
This is a police state, people.
Get it?
Corporate fascist 1% own and operate it.
NO ONE is being influenced by a report here or there, or an article.
The deal is DONE, they are DOING it to us.
N the ONLY thing we got going for us is it’s all unsustainable, and empires crash and burn.
My thot is that as history advances, trends speed up. What took 500 years or a hundred years now takes place in a matter of a few years, or even months.
So who KNOWS how soon this shit crashes, maybe faster n any of us can imagine!
*G*
But we are pretty much done, as we the masses.
That game is over n we have no rights.
Magna Carta world wide?
Gone.
Habeus corpus in US?
Gone.
Miranda?
All but gone given DHS.
Patriot Act, NDAA.
It’s over.
Drones, eavesdropping, warrant less wiretapping, public and private surveillance, internet usage . . . all used to identify any murmur of dissent and act on it.
There is NO need for provocation by DHS reports or articles as you link to Kevin, the shit’s already in place and being used.
On this one, yer behind the curve.
“You people”? Come on Larue, many of us, if not most, don’t deserve that.
La fucked up.
I’m tired of all of this. It’s time that we all realized that we are now living in a police state. obama is a monster as was bush. So what’s our next move? I say revolution.
Kb! I was musing about incorporating more spectacle and humor into my ‘No War on Iran’ vigil. Just trying to make it less dour and more playful, like bringing a typewriter to the Town Square and a small sewing table with a big banner that says : Instant Poetry for Peace: Write Your Heartfelt Poem here Now. Just imagining my Self typing away under the blue sky, having a good old time. Maybe incorporating some singing, music, like that sequence of rhyming sentences in the Princess Bride movie. Silly stuff.
Why are so many so blood thirsty? Have you ever shot anybody? Have you ever smacked anybody in the head, trying to kill or cripple them? Have you ever been on the receiving end of somebody trying to hurt or maim you? It’s been my experience that the people who talk the most shit about violent acts are the most squeamish when push comes to shove. Because that’s what it’s going to take to “win” a “revolution”. It’s easy to hack out your frustration on a keyboard but these people play for keeps and death is a looooooong time. besides, well fed people don’t start revolts. Your call for uprising is well taken but revolution? Maybe a bit premature.
Our next move — Chicago Spring in massive numbers.
People in the streets, wonderful. Great. I’ll be there with a great big sign. But I’d like to cool the revolution rhetoric just a bit.
Mmmmmm the melodrama gets thick.
Nothing like melodrama to create paralysis.
Right. Nobody who has ever literally taken a beating on the street, with no one else around to defend you, EVER calls for revolution.
You and I know this, having actually been beaten by reactionaries.
These people who are all “Hey, let’s you and him fight” are…, well they just don’t know what they’re asking for.
Me too. Bring your friends, as many American flags (right-side up please) as you can must and patriotic folderol. We need as many American flags in Chicago as there were Egyptian flags in Tahrir.
Staying cool is the revolution. All the folks with romantic visions of Les Mis’, 1848, and burning barricades are way ahead of themselves. And I doubt few of them would enjoy living in the house after it has been burned down.
Not just people in the streets. Peaceful people in the streets protesting in sight of the Summits and defying Rahm Emmanuel’s suspension of the Bill of Rights in Chicago.
This anecdote was just shared with me:
Violence would be playing right into the hands of those who wish we would go away. We’re smarter than that, I hope.
In our community we have a brand new dog tax law, a five dollar a year dog license you have to buy. One person refused to pay this ‘dog tax’ and was told that if people did not pay this tax, there would be chaos and anarchy in our community. Traditionally, dogs have never had licenses here since we are rural and once were mainly dairy farms. One of my ideas is to have a Dogs Without Licenses Anarchy Party where we dress up as doggily as possible and run around the Town Square dancing to music!!! Chaos!! Anarchy!!!!
#PDX had a GREAT day despite everything the riot police threw at them. They kept their heads, their cool, their smarts engaged and did all the right things. Even grannies in HAZMAT suits in wheelchairs were protesting at Wells Fargo who were willing to, and did, get arrested. People from all age groups are participating and in every imaginable way. Water wears rock not vice versa and the bamboo bends in the wind but does not break. Would it not be wise to acknowledge what is working, continue with it but keep innovating?
Great for #OPDX. Lessons learned today seems so bureaucratically tacky and cliche, but what were the lessons learned today that were new insights for the movement?
……..I left out the part where the person who refused to pay this dog tax got dragged into court and fined, sort of publically humiliated for challenging the law. Sorry I left that out. Better leave the story telling to you folks.
Don’t take it personal Margaret . . . YOU people is the masses, sorry if that was not clear. The masses, even proggy’s yes.
YOU people is all people who don’t get that all civil rights are gone, it’s for those who don’t get that women’s rights are gone, that non whites rights are gone, that LGBT rights are gone, etc.
No need to nitpick my words ma’am . . . but I DO feel there’s a HUGE majority of humans in this country including so called proggy’s who don’t get how GONE their civil rights are, nor their lives.
N hence my commentary. Directed, mostly, to Kevin G, who has done a STELLAR job on the job, but on this one, is behind the curve of which I speak, the reality of GONE civil rights and the threat now to anyone who dissents in any fashion, including in here.
I cry not wolf, the wolf will come for us all.
It always does.
N empires fail, they always do.
N that’s that . . .
I am not sure I understand your response in its entirety so you might have to just ask some questions and I can see if I can answer them. One thing I see is that there really still is the need for continued public education as many still have no idea even of what’s going on (but this guy’s wide awake and worth support IMO):
I saw evidence of this again today on live streams and I wasn’t just monitoring #PDX. For example, just engaging with, talking to, and handing out handbills and flyers to folks is still needed.
History and present reality show there are 4 likely outcomes.
1) Empires collapse when over extended and fail to care for the needs of the masses. They lose hearts and minds at home.
2) A wrong military action by USA or Israel puts the planet into a nasty sitch.
3) Mama nature shuts down and endangers human life forms.
4) The masses become enraged and revolt (not likely in my time, the other 3 will come into play first, likely).
NONE of those are beyond the 20 or so years I got left on this rock.
ON we trudge.
Concurred.
Altho I’ve defended myself at times when young with great intensity . . . the other guys got the worst. Never with guns tho, never in battle.
I think, at 59, I might be part of the later boomers who grew up having to fight like hell at times on the streets . . . since then, most gens don’t seem to have been as eager to defend themselves, but instead, avoid confrontation however possible.
Dif times, dif folks . . . but I came from a place in time where we fought like hell if we had to, and we did, on the streets, at school, etc.
I did not serve, I would NOT have served, at age 18 had I been drafted in the lottery. Not for Vietnam, not for that shit. I lived there, no way I was fighting there for fat cats.
N I would STILL not have served or fought for any of US military incursions since. They were faux incursions and such, we all know it as we age.
I HAVE found that many vets I encounter, generation after generation, thru my life, come to similar thots too . . . just sayin.
Dude, no paralysis, just know what wall yer backed up against.
Fight to the death? Oh yeah, sure, it’s what we Americans believe in still, fight for freedom.
N ours are gone, and we are up against the wall.
No paralysis, no paranoia, just fact hoss.
See ya in the streets or in jail or disappeared.
We disappear together, or we disappear alone.
You choose.
16 years old, Lidden Plaza, Pala Alto, CA, anti war protest.
Peaceful scene n the cops waded in and I got a few on the head from batons and bled.
Hell, I wasn’t even spittin on anyone or callin them pigs.
I wanted to see Charlie Musslewhite do a gig on the square, it was a summer thang, live shows outdooors there on Fridays.
Not like you or Margaret, I know, but I got beat once by authority.
I held my own with others in my life, never was mugged or faced a gun or knife tho . . . it’s different these days, I’m older and it’s MUCH more dangerous out there daily.
We all trudge on, us older folks are wiser and slower, and make different decisions to engage than we did long ago.
It’s how we grow old, and survive . . . or we’d be dead by now.
Of COURSE this went down like that.
Kevin, is this stuff NEW to you in your life experience?
I would have thot you KNEW this shit came down from your studies, and then your experiences with Occupy.
Yer a target, they are all targets.
You know this, right? Yer a target?
Cuz if you’ve been doing all you’ve been doing so diligently, so passionately, so actively, and you don’t know yer a target for doing so, then I just can’t account for being that naive.
N I NEVER thot you were naive, hell, yer on the front lines!
I remain confused as to your levels of awareness I guess, I also remain greatly appreciative of what it is you DO do. Yer out there, hoss, n that’s stone cold solid.
*bows*
I dunna, the last piece Kevin offered yesterday or before was incredible. It’s hard to tell if Occupy got it goin or not non violently.
I refer to Oakland described Occupiers going to SF n starting havoc n violence (were they paid agents?).
So, violence is there, whether we want it or not. N of course as you know, the bad guys pay folks to start violence so it’s kinda inevitable, peace ful or not . . . sad, huh.
Yep, see ya. Thanks for the clear replies.
Why do the Occupy protesters think they wouldn;t be watched? Civil rights protesters, labor, anti-war, all get watched by the Government. Let ‘em watch, expect it, use it.
Good Morning. Interesting article here:
Roman Imperialism = 1200 Years
European Colonialism = 300 Years
American Globalism = Between 34 Years (i.e. from Nixon Pardon to Cheney/Bush pardon) or 50+ years (i.e. since “winning” WWII)
If you subscribe to Professor Sheldon Wolin’s view that America is now an empire steeped in “Inverted Fascism”, that last figure is gonna be pretty accurate and it underlies an interesting phenomenon in crony religious Capitalism’s inherit empiricism and belligerence: as the rate of technology advanced and improved over the years, the shelf-life of fascist empiricism narrows.
It’s a paradox — America certainly didn’t invent fascism, but technology has helped us came very close to perfecting it. Yet, at the same time, that very technology has paradoxically unraveled their stacked deck cards in less time it took to build it, and thus brought about the treat of insurrection to the elites for their incompetence and short-sightedness.
Germany had to spend millions and billions on making sure there were parades 24/7 to distract and dumb-down the populace. The technology to make sure ever single vinyl sided fuck-box functioned as a broadband, High-Def, 300+ channel Roman Colosseum/Concentration Camp didn’t exist then. Otherwise, it would’ve saved Germany alot money they could’ve pumped into their war-corporatism.
Not so in the United States Of Distractions — technology advancements have made “Inverted Fascism” by the centrist extremists not only possible, but march on virtually unmolested over the last 35 to 50 years … until they made 3 big whoopsies in their legendary incompetence: (1) outsourced wage-slavery, (2) failed to harness and control the Internet’s free flow of information, (3) enabled and rewarded the rampant foreclosure of those vinyl sided concentrations camps we call homes by banker terrorists.
All three of them were requirements to keep the American populace dumbed-downed, distracted, and on the voter-drone plantation infinitely funding and bankrolling their own bankruptcy and destruction on the installment plan … and the elites botched it. They know they botched it.
Furthermore, they know the jig is up, hence why they’re siccin’ all the Vic Mackey embracing police on a skull fracturing spree at OWS camps — they’re not scared of YOU; they’re scared of too many foreclosed and jobless Iraq and Afghanistan vets being among you. They know how to blow shit up just like the veterans that joined the Shay’s Rebellion did …