10:48 PM EST And, here are a bunch of emails with Stratfor employees going back and forth about what they think of Anonymous and the war Anonymous supposedly declared on the Mexican drug cartels after a hacker was kidnapped.
10:36 PM EST McClatchy reports on the emails that look at the discontent in the Venezuelan military
10:18 PM EST Jane Hamsher uncovers Stratfor’s “source” inside the FBI: James Casey.
Coincidentally or not coincidentally, he just left the FBI. And, the Florida Times-Union reported that Casey was leaving the FBI just yesterday after working for the FBI for 25 years.
Like Jane says:
Moral of the story: Bradley Manning gets charged with “aiding the enemy” for potentially leaking information that was available on the SIPRNET to hundreds of thousands of people. This guy gets a gold watch and no investigation for potentially leaking the existence of a sealed DoJ indictment of Julian Assange that I imagine almost nobody knew about.
8:51 PM EST Here’s the interview I recorded today for FAIR’s “CounterSpin” radio show on the release and the media coverage of the emails thus far: Kevin Gosztola on WikiLeaks and Stratfor
It was an honor to appear on the program. I am very grateful that this media watchdog organization exists, and for the past few years, I have followed what they do very closely. Additionally, I appear on the same episode as Sonali Kolhatkar, who has done great work on Afghanistan.
8:46 PM EST Did Stratfor have someone at Occupy Des Moines spying on them? This email suggests there was somebody.
8:43 PM EST M_Cetera, one of the most prolific tweeters of all things WikiLeaks, has written a post about Stratfor’s blatant hypocrisy toward WikiLeaks
8:09 PM EST These emails are insanely amusing. Okay, as an Anon might say, for the lulz, here’s an email sent by an employee at the security and threat management firm Fortis Protective Services Worldwide, based in Chicago:
Hi Fred & thanks for those books you signed….my father thought that was a great gift.
I was looking into that US Day of Rage movement and specifically asked to connect it to any Saudi or other fundamentalist Islamic movements -
Thus far I have only hear rumors but not gotten any substantial connection.
Do you guys know much about this other than its US Domestic fiscal ideals ? [emphasis added]
Now, the best part is that Fred Burton, VP of Intelligence at Stratfor, takes this seriously and replies, “?” It then takes another employee Anya Alfano to dispel any idea that Occupy is connected with Islamists:
No, we’re not aware of any concrete connections between fundamentalist Islamist movements and the Day of Rage, or the October 2011 movement at this point.
7:49 PM EST More emails on Occupy.
Here’s an email on Deep Green Resistance, an environmental group that was at Occupy Austin’s General Assemblies, “I think the eco-terror group is focused on creating a situation where violent confrontation will be the ultimate outcome.” That’s how a Texas Department of Public Safety agent characterized the threat their presence posed.
Now, depending on how closely you followed the Stratfor hack, you might remember that Anonymous actually released some of the details on Stratfor’s monitoring of Occupy Austin and Deep Green Resistance. Here is a story written about the monitoring by Deep Green Resistance in response to the emails released in the hack.
Noteworthy is the following:
…Between hasty generalizations, the STRATFOR staff get a number of important facts completely wrong. First of all, they confuse members of the DGR action group in Austin (which does exist) with another group they call the “Phoenix commune” (which may or may not exist).
They also allege a conflict between members of the DGR Austin group with Occupy Austin that doesn’t seem to have happened. It’s not clear if this is part of the strategy counterintelligence groups have used in the past to try to provoke conflict between different social movements—the FBI used this very effectively against groups like the Black Panther Party—or whether STRATFOR is simply relying on unreliable or incompetent sources.
Elsewhere STRATFOR displays a perception of radical environmentalism that falls somewhere between muddled and simply wrong. One agent suggests DGR is inspired by Nazism and philosopher Martin Heidegger, while another declares that DGR “is focused on creating a situation where violent confrontation will be the ultimate outcome.” Both of these assertions are just plain false…
6:20 PM EST Majority Report with Sam Seder – Michael Hastings of Rolling Stone was interviewed yesterday. He informed Seder that there are thousands of emails showing Stratfor was monitoring Occupy. He is working on some stories and, when his first one is ready to publish, we can expect more emails on Stratfor’s monitoring to go up on WikiLeaks.
6:19 PM EST Jane Hamsher on Stratfor’s source, a “shady” Bulgarian billionaire named Vinny.
3:24 PM EST Insightful editorial from the Baltimore Sun on the release. Rachel Marsden characterizes the new “stash” as a “frightening view of government intelligence.” She describes how most in a private intelligence company would “rather pimp for a paycheck than stand on ethics, and often lack the sophisticated knowledge, wisdom and foresight to realize the implications of their actions and decisions.”
Marsden also gets into what most bothers her about an organization like Stratfor:
Apparently the entities charged with keeping us safe now require full-blown lessons from the private sector in how to do their jobs. According to leaked email written by Stratfor’s CEO, George Friedman: “We have also been asked to help the United States Marine Corps and other government intelligence organizations to teach them how Stratfor does what it does, and train them in becoming government Stratfors. We are beginning this project by preparing a three-year forecast for the Commandant of the Corps. This is a double honor for us.”
Double honor for you; double horror for us! The fact that the commandant of the Marine Corps “and other government intelligence organizations” might require your expertise in learning how to do what they’ve historically been entrusted by the public to do does nothing for my sense of security.
Except for the fact that it is not true that WikiLeaks “hacked into Stratfor’s system to obtain millions of private emails,” this is a good editorial. No trite judgments are made about the release or the organization. Marsden does not try to tell us if the release is a good release or not.
It gets better. Read the bottom. She’s a former Fox News host. That makes the editorial even better.
1:22 PM EST The questions, which the emails released by WikiLeaks, raise about the five-day Russia-Georgia conflict in 2008
12:49 PM EST This looks to be the first full report from McClatchy, one of WikiLeaks’ two US-based media partners, on the Stratfor release. The news outlet focuses on the lack of web security within the intelligence company. It also examines how credible or not credible the organization was and why many are not taking the release of the emails seriously.
Here is one of the more interesting sections, which looks at how Stratfor was profitable, notes what companies made payments to the company in 2011:
The largest was Chevron Latin America, which paid Stratfor $81,700. A 10th client was added in September — according to an email from Friedman to his staff that month — the Turkish Industry and Business Association. It was billed $75,000 in October, according to a note that accompanied the financial statement.
Another client, Dallas-based Hunt Oil, renewed its subscription to Stratfor’s research for $42,394. According to the emails, Stratfor monitors events in Iraq, Peru and Yemen for Hunt, which has oil interests in those countries, and along the U.S.-Mexican border, where Hunt controls the electrical transmission lines between Mexico and Texas.
12:37 PM EST The private intelligence company considered establishing standards for encrypting emails. Not sure that they were followed. Some very personal details and sensitive information was still exchanged between employees after 2010 (it seems).
12:32 PM EST Nawaat reports that there are 5000 emails on Tunisia. They are sifting through them now.
12:30 PM EST Look at the timeline of the emails. It appears Burton might be saying one thing and then saying another. There may be emails missing in this exchange that WikiLeaks has not published. He seems to concede in one email that OBL is now with the fish. In others, he is convincingly reporting that the body is moving to the contiguous United States.
10:44 AM EST Only thirty or so emails released in the latest batch. And, for clarity purposes, the only evidence in the emails suggesting that the Pentagon didn’t bury Bin Laden’s body at sea is what Burton himself reported in the emails. It could be true. If we think it is true he knew the US government had a “sealed indictment” against Julian Assange, why wouldn’t what he was reporting on the transport of OBL’s body be true?
At this point, all we have is questions. They are important, however, because the Pentagon did tell the world he was buried at sea.
10:41 AM EST On “dissent” within the ranks of the military against Venezuela President Hugo Chavez. Stratfor claimed to have a source that knew what was up with all the rumors about the military becoming more disloyal toward Chavez. The disloyalty was possibly due to his cancer.
10:30 AM EST Interview with Assange in the Italian newspaper L’Espresso:
The organization has a list of very powerful groups that are unhappy with the exposure that we have given to them in the past two years and those groups have set in motion various attempts to take us down, they are in the legal process through political mechanisms, through the media, through a financial blockade. All those need to be individually addressed. It is a lot of work. So far we are winning in the sense that our ability to publish the majority of our material has been unbroken, our promise to our sources to publish the most significant material in relation to the US government have been kept, but that said the attacks are serious and ongoing
9:37 AM EST Here is some context for the emails containing details on Bin Laden’s body allegedly being transported to Maryland. First off, someone was giving Burton this information. Details on where his body was going and what was really happening with his body was probably classified.
Burton’s information on the body being moved to Delaware and then on to Bethesda, Maryland, if true, would mean the Pentagon lied about Bin Laden being buried at sea.
This is the story the Pentagon told the press:
A senior U.S. defense official said the religious rites aboard the ship lasted about 50 minutes. He said bin Laden’s body was washed, wrapped in a white sheet and then placed in a weighted bag. A military officer read “religious remarks,” which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker. “After the words were complete, the body was placed on a prepared flat board, tipped up, whereupon the deceased’s body eased into the sea,” the official told reporters. He spoke on the condition of anonymity, in accordance with Pentagon procedures.
It would seem the CIA moved the body. And, it was taken for forensic testing or perhaps an autopsy.
The whole idea of a sea burial was to avoid any outrage from Americans or people in other countries, who might not want him buried in their soil. But, what if a Dover mortuary that had been disposing of US troops‘ remains for years handled his body? What if he ended up in a Virginia landfill?
9:18 AM EST Email on how Malaysia will become a focal point for conflict between China and the United States.
9:16 AM EST Julian Assange’s legal advisor, Jennifer Robinson, is interviewed by MTR, which is a radio station based in Australia.
9:04 AM EST The emails show Fred Burton was given updates after Osama bin Laden was killed until his body allegedly arrived in Dover, Delaware.
Vice President of Intelligence Fred Burton wrote in an email, “Body is Dover bound, should be here by now.” This came after he wrote in another email:
If body dumped at sea, which I doubt, the touch is very Adolph Eichman like. The Tribe did the same thing with the Nazi’s ashes.
We would want to photograph, DNA, fingerprint, etc.
His body is a crime scene and I don’t see the FBI nor DOJ letting that happen.
On May 5, 2011, he reported the body is “airborne to CONUS.” CONUS is a Defense Department term for the contiguous United States. He even shared the exact location where the body was going saying that same day it was going “onward to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda.” Bethesda is in Maryland just outside of Washington, DC.
Though it was not really secret information, Burton’s source in the FBI told him there was a likelihood of “retaliation attacks in CONUS.”
Also, Burton shared this perspective on why photos needed to be made public:
Although I don’t really give a rats ass, it seems to methat by dropping the corpse in the ocean, the body will come back to haunt us….gotta be violating some sort of obscure heathen religious rule that will inflame islam? I was sleeping thru that class at Langley.
The US Govt needs to make body pics available like the MX’s do, with OBL’s pants pulled down, to shout down the lunatics like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck.
Original Post
WikiLeaks and twenty-five or so media partners have begun to release and publish the “Global Intelligence Files,” over five million emails from the Texas-headquartered “global intelligence company known as Stratfor. The leaks organization describes the emails as documents that show “Stratfor’s web of informers, pay-off structure, payment-laundering techniques and psychological methods.”
The organization’s press release further explains the emails show the “inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal’s Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defense Intelligence Agency.”
Here at The Dissenter the release has been receiving full coverage. And, these are some highlights from Day 3 of the release:
—A tech-savvy Stratfor employee figured out the world will not access files inside the WikiLeaks insurance file until WikiLeaks releases a password. Marc Lanthermann, a watch officer, said in an email conversation, “FYI, talked to some of my CS/hacker-savvy friends. The file is encrypted using a 256 bit AES encryption, which is what the US government uses for classified documentation. There are no known weaknesses to this encryption and it would take longer than the lifetime of the sun to brute-force the code using all the supercomputers currently in existence. You’d need a super secret quantum computer or the biggest breakthrough in cryptoanalysis ever.”
—Former Pakistani spy chief Hamid Gul was a “complimentary member” of Stratfor. The head of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), General Hamid Gul, who is believed to have helped plan IED attacks on international forces in Afghanistan in 2006 (according to US diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks), was given a complimentary membership by Stratfor.



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Heh. So USG lied about OBL body disposal. Imagine that.
Kevin, did you see the news just now?
Andrew Breitbart has died at 43.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/andrew-breitbart-publisher-author-dead/story?id=15824337#.T0-ObdXy0cs
Off topic: Ben and Jerry “owners”* to give $2 million to Occupy.
(I thought they were bought out…)
“the tribe?”
Here’s the problem. Who’s the bigger liars: Stratfor’s sources or the USG?
That would mean that actions would have had to take place after the USG official announcement. Timelining is helpful for sorting this out. Did Stratfor have a classification of the source and the report under their credibility system?
FWIW, I never believed the burial at sea story. No evidence just didn’t sound plausible. Here’s part of my email back & forth with a friend who wondered why they would do something so stupid.
How soon before OBL body parts start showing up on eBay?
To da dump, to da dump, to da dump dump dump…
I am adding context. See above. This is what we know now. I am being careful to only ask provocative questions at this point. I don’t know if this is true or not. Maybe Burton was feeding lies to employees.
Pentagon frantically calling corp media not to touch this story would be my guess.
*spew*. We have emails stating that Osama’s body was brought back to the US!?!? I am very proud of my tinfoil hat this morning…
The USG story was never really plausible, even if there is no proof of the veracity of Stratfor’s emails.
Breitbart dead? I wish death on no one, but that’s some interesting timing.
Yep. Seemed like it was mode up by a committee of people whose total IQs didn’t surpass 80.
BTW, I emailed BBC with a link to this post, saying I eagerly awaited their coverage of this story.
Good luck with that. Heh.
OBL email is so delicious that I’m surprised breitbart story is taking up as much space as it is.
Shiny object.
One thing I’ve noticed, ysd, is that it takes most people a long time to catch onto what’s really explosive in the news. I don’t know why, just an observation.
They need to hurry up and absorb the OBL story ’cause it’s a doozy.
Scahill’s going to be on Lopate show on wnyc (prolly in last segment, roughly 20 minutes before 2p, but they’re doing fundraising so listening is a drag) aksing what Scahill thought of the revelation.
The item on Russia-Georgia-Israel-Iran nexus is fascinating.
To AQ or not to AQ.
Not.
I’ve been watching for the OBL stuff to show up in news aggregators or feeds. So far – zip, nada…
Hmmm. I’ve done my part to try to get it into the news.
Have you checked alJaz? I haven’t. Not sure which sides their masters are on in this one, so they might suppress it too.
Yeah, it’s suprising that it’s nowhere and it is also simultaneously expected. Obviously, if true, it’s huge news.
Stratfor has been derided as a joke of an organization. I wonder, though (and eCAHN will prolly strongly disagree), if there is method in slamming the reputation of Strator. If Stratfor is disreputable, nothing in the emails is to be believed. Who benefits from that?
Until proven false, I choose to believe the emails. I believe there is a sealed indictment for Assange and I believe OBL was transported to the USA. The government needs to prove these emails wrong. Full stop.
Don’t disagree one bit.
Without evidence, you have to go with the story that makes the most sense to you. Burial of OBL at sea, no. Sealed indictment for Assange, for sure.
Some of the Stratfor emails are stupid, lies, or fabrications. Many (but not all) of those are pretty apparent on the surface.
So there’s a carbonite block hidden somewhere at Besthesda Naval Hospital? Is that the consensus? Logistically much easier to airlift an entire body that airlift samples and imagery providing evidence of identity?
The single source for this report is Fred Burton. Suggest some grandstanding Congressman call him before a committee and raise his right hand on this story. Not likely to happen.
I’m not so sure that burial at sea was not offensive to some muslims.
Not really sure why either story was more credible than the other. Both are within the capabilities of the US military.
Statement against interest to assert that body wasn’t dumped at sea. Gives it more surface cred.
I do understand that. It’s the practical benefit of doing what Burton alleges was done that I don’t understand. And the fact that it complicates the logistics and brings more people into the loop who could spill the beans. Was someone interested in seeing whether he really did have kidney failure that required dialysis, as some press reports have asserted?
OT:
—A tech-savvy Stratfor employee figured out the world will not access files inside the WikiLeaks insurance file until WikiLeaks releases a password
That’s great does this person still have a job?
Thanks KG but I’ll bet you one pony know one goes to jail except the ones that released this wonderful telling tale of just how bad it really is.
From one of the related link:
This would have interesting consequences behind the scenes of the Ahmedinejad / Obama wargames. If that was part of the scenario, the US / Israel may now be scrambling to find if Iran has the capability of changing those codes. And I bet Putin’s General got a rather chilly call from Ahmedinajad’s General. I bet Russia would deny it, but redouble their efforts at avoiding war.
The thing that keeps going thru my mind on this intel isn’t that it’s just info or intentional disinfo.
I keep wondering how much of it was a boss who simply wanted his staff to think he was important.
Same would apply to his clients who — if they failed to independently confirm or reject — would also think he’s important, regardless of the value of the info provided.
My guess is that all three possibilities came into play at times.
Makes one wonder how much of George Friedman’s public resume is true.
I take it to mean Jews.
I’m not sure if it’s derogatory in Burton’s context. If it is, I certainly don’t mean to offend anyone here. I’m just offering the explanation as I’ve heard it used that way by a Jewish friend. When I told her that my family was ethnically Jewish, she excitedly said “You’re a member of the tribe?!”
And it seems to fit in the context above.
I do wonder. But more amusing to me is just imagining how The Chess Game of World Domination is now playing out across the globe. Some people are $hi++ing bricks right now… wondering when the next shoe will drop.
My question is if we end up getting reliable, independent confirmation of any of this stuff… not the MSM “confirming” with three sources (i.e. Stratfor, USG and an Iraqi exile… all of whom got their info from Chalabi). I think it’s possible. For example, if OBL’s body is in the US… at least a dozen people know it. At some point, those people will leave the military. At that point, they could probably do a tell-all book. Not necessarily for money. But you might happen to a have a military person who puts military first, while active… but good government & transparency first, in retirement.
If true, it prolly means that the Seals unknowingly killed one of the OBL doubles (which I suspected) …
Link (I know it’s from an Alex Jones’ website, but the info is sound)
… So the USG had to make up the story of the burial at sea
And also consistent with Paks destroying OBL’s house…
Was JFK’s Lincoln Continental limousine in the garage?
Not one I delved into, but here’s a website that might contain the answer.
I’m sure Jane understood Burton’s ref (but she placed her question mark inside her quote marks instead of outside).
Not interested if there’s no film footage of Oswald and Zapruder meeting at a Zurich hotel.
I know you are snarking but…
Wikileaks just put up some files on Stratfor’s monitoring of the Occupy Movement.
Sheesh, and I remember the early kvetching about Occupy being ignored… (individual links available in the lobby for 99 cents, full compilation for $9.99).
That kind of assertive statement could also be like the kinds of speculations we read here expressed as assertions by both the savvy commentators and the very savvy commentators.
I just went through them.
Thomas Kopecky of fortisworldwide.com made the following inquiry of Burton on 18 August 2011:
Burton replies:
Who besides Thomas Kopecky is “fortisworldwide” and why is he interested?
This is when Days of Rage pops up on the radar for Stratfor apparently.
What is Days of Rage? Is it synonymous with Occupy?
Considering that the Bush and Bin Laden Families are friends – and the clout that the Bush Family has, it is possible that the deaths of both Ken Lay and Osama have been faked.
Interesting. I notice Kopecky asks one set of leading/loaded questions, and Burton answers (or doesn’t answer) with a different ‘set’ of terms.
US Days of Rage
Certainly like Adbusters, they called for protest but they are not Occupy Wall Street, which is the Occupy Wall Street general assembly and working groups.
USDOR was started by a friend of mine, Alexa O’Brien. She’s now a plaintiff for the lawsuit filed against the NDAA.
USDOR participated in the steering committee that launched Occupy Wall Street.
My Houston friend tells me Lay had a bad heart.
You failed to mention that GHW Bush’s public life was also faked.
Wish the Austin folks were around tonight. Seems that Stratfor’s interest in Occupy came out of a Texas DPS (Department of Public Safety?) agent’s interest in a group called “Deep Green Resistance”.
And from the Thomas Ryan expose in Gawker.
Started shaping their thinking in looking for what they could use their hammer on even if there were no nails in sight.
Yep, that’s correct. And, as I mention in the post, Anonymous already released some of the emails showing Stratfor was interested in Deep Green Resistance’s presence.
As a rule, the USG studies, surveills, infiltrates and propagandizes many groups such as DNC, Greenpeace, Peace Activists, Quakers, Antiwar groups, Socialists, OWS and others. Its primary focus is to delegitimize leftism, populism.
It loves gun nuts, the NRA, billionaires and war profiteers, the Religious Right, Catholicism and its coverups and scandals, The Unibomber, The Oklahoma City Dickhead, and all manner of rightwing fucktards. In part, b/c these groups support Militarism and US Hegemony.
Don’t forget that internal matters are more existentially threatening to PTB than external ones. Esp any that have to do with populism or challenging PTB.
Sure makes it really hard to proffer the most believable version, that OBL died of natural causes ten years ago.
Of course. There is no external threat to the bastids. They cure all those with Militarism. Combined with the usurpation of Civil Rights, it is the same cure they use internally.
Just listened to the FAIR/Counterspin interview. Excellent job. Hit the right framing IMO.
Good point.
I think there have never been any external threats to USG. Or internal ones for that matter. Though paranoia about the latter runs extreme.
Depends what you mean by USG. A serious contingent have said a coup d’etat happened in 1963. If so, there have been threats to that USG, including RFK. Later, the Lewis Powell memo spelled out an internal threat, and (finally), Nixon was taken out when he represented a threat to the USG, that is, to two of the branches. Also, the USG genuinely feared the Weather Underground — no one in the underground or the surviving movement believed for one second that the SLA wasn’t a blackop front or that PTB heiress Patty Hearst was an innocent victim.
1963 is just one RWM stealing power from another RWM. Nothing threatening to PTB in general, just to a specific faction.
Not to demean civil warz betw factions of RWMs, just saying it is not existential threat to broader control & power.
Oh, funny story. I was once mistaken for Patty Hearst. Crossing into Mexico from SoCal, I was confused in my rental car, so ended up in the wrong lane (ca 1976?), was pulled over and asked to go inside. My surname at the time was Hersh (don’t ask), and when the immigration agent saw it, he eyes bugged out and he gave me & my passport a triple look.
It was a VERY diff era, he quickly saw his mistake, I explained my confusion, and all was sorted out. If the same thing happened today, I’d be in indefinite detention & prolly tortured.
Who was “buried?”
Lay had a heart?
*laugh* So one of their “tech guys” just “discovered” that they couldn’t break 256bit AES?
Stuff like this just continues to convince me that our government (and its subsidiaries and subcontractors) are completely, utterly clueless when it comes to computer security.
Thanks
I’m convinced that most government computer security contracts are given to cronies like any other graft.
They don’t care if you’re competent, so long as you’re ‘one of us’.
I was once told I should “Come to Washington” to take advantage of the market for computer savy, the person asking was in a position to help, and I was appalled that he didn’t seem to give a damn if I was able to do the job.
It’s all buddies help buddies and who gives a rats ass…