
Philip Zelikow, former counselor of the US State Dept
A State Department internal memo opposing the Justice Department’s arguments for CIA “enhanced interrogation techniques”—torture—has been released. The memo from February 2006 was written by Philip Zelikow, who at the time was a counselor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. It was believed that all copies of the memo had been destroyed, but on April 3, the National Security Archive, a group committed to openness in government, obtained a copy through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request and posted it online.
The memo shows Zelikow argued many of the “techniques” approved for use by the CIA should have been considered “cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment” under Article 16 of the Convention Against Torture. He thought waterboarding, walling, dousing, stress positions and cramped confinement could have the cumulative effect of being “cruel, inhuman or degrading.”
Zelikow found, “Control conditions, such as nudity, sleep deprivation and liquid diet” might not be “cruel, inhuman or degrading,” but that depended on “the circumstances and details of how these techniques” were used. Basic detention conditions and “corrective techniques, such as slaps,” would be permissible.
What spurred Zelikow’s opposition was the 2005 McCain Amendment on torture, which sought to prohibit the inhumane treatment of prisoners in US custody.
In the memo, he begins by noting the State Department agreed with the Justice Department in May 2005 that Article 16 of the CAT (“to prevent in any territory under its jurisdiction other acts of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment which do not amount to torture”) “did not apply to CIA interrogations in foreign countries.” But, the McCain Amendment had “extended the application of Article 16 of the CAT to conduct by US officials anywhere in the world.”
The prohibitions of Article 16 of the CAT now do apply to the enhanced interrogation techniques authorized for employment by CIA. In this case, given the relationship of domestic law to the question of treaty interpretation, the responsibility of advising on interpretation is shared by both the Department of State and the Department of Justice.
Zelikow’s State Department memo would not have been binding on the CIA, but he felt because of his history as a constitutional lawyer he had to put forward an argument that challenged the idea that these “enhanced interrogation techniques” were legal.
He told the Associated Press on April 3, “I believe that the Department of Justice’s opinion was an extreme reading of the law and because the Justice Department opinion was secret, the only way the president could hear an alternative interpretation was for someone like me to offer it.”
That is actually a particularly fascinating statement. Zelikow basically is saying all of the Office of Legal Counsel memos being written on these “techniques” or torture were being kept from the president. He couldn’t know what he was approving and Zelikow saw the memo as perhaps the only shot to prevent something illegal from happening.
This may be why the White House tried to destroy all copies of the memos that were circulated. In former President George W. Bush’s memoir, Decision Points, there is no mention of Zelikow. What he writes is, “At his direction, Department of Justice and CIA lawyers conducted a careful legal review. They concluded that the enhanced interrogation program complied with the Constitution and all applicable laws, including those that ban torture.” He doesn’t mention reading any specific legal arguments. And so, presumably, to avoid being charged with committing any war crimes, the lawyers were allowed to operate and craft justifications for torture under total secrecy.
Additionally, Zelikow uses the OLC’s own memos on the “legal definition of torture” to make his argument against approved CIA “techniques.”
…the CAT’s Article 16 states explicitly that the prohibited cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment are acts “which do not amount to torture.” Moreover, OLC’s own opinion on the legal definition of torture emphasizes the difference. OLC quoted the Senate’s explanation that: “‘Torture’ is thus to be distinguished from lesser forms of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, which are to be deplored and prevented, but are not universally and categorically condemned as to warrant the severe legal consequences that the Convention provides in the case of torture.” OLC opinion of Dec. 30, 2004, p. 4, see also note 14.
If the techniques, taken together, are intrinsically cruel, inhuman or degrading — i.e., if under American constitutional law they would either be considered cruel and unusual or shock the conscience, then they are prohibited. They can be barred, per se, even if they do not amount to torture. And they can be barred even if there is a compelling state interest asserted to justify them.
To get a better idea of what he means by “shock the conscience” and “state interest,” read the full memo here.
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The memo itself has multiple implications. As mentioned above, it was an effort by Zelikow to expose Bush to the flaws in legal opinions being put together by OLC lawyers, particularly Steven Bradbury. It should move the Obama Justice Department to renew efforts to investigate CIA torture. However, Justice Department has been averse to investigating torture.
On June 30, 2011, it was reported John Durham recommended a “criminal probe into the deaths of two prisoners in CIA custody but cleared US interrogators of wrongdoing in 99 others.” The investigation had begun as an investigation into the “CIA’s destruction of videotapes of the interrogations of top al Qaeda prisoners.” The scope was “widened” by Attorney General Eric Holder in 2009 to include a “look into whether US interrogations violated American laws against torture.” Thus, the release of the memo merely makes the Obama Administration’s failure or refusal to fully investigate CIA torture even more appalling.
Glenn Greenwald said on Democracy Now! on August 26, 2009, just after Holder made the announcement, that this should take away the argument that the ”torture regime” should be “immunized from the rule of law and the mere fact that it was done in the name of terrorism means that somehow breaking the law is permissible in a republic that is supposed to live in accordance with the rule of law.” But, he clarified:
I think the problem with the announcement, though, and it’s a significant problem, is that he has indicated that anybody who complied with the OLC torture memos, the memos that essentially gave permission to the CIA to engage in what was obviously torture, and who did so in good faith will receive immunity from investigations and prosecutions. And what that, I think, is intended to do, and what it almost certainly will accomplish, is to mean that the high-level political officials who actually implemented the torture regime — the Bush officials in the White House, the high-level CIA officials — will never be held to account. And at most what will happen is some low-level sadist in the CIA who went beyond the torture permission slips given by the Justice Department might be held accountable, in the same way that in Abu Ghraib low-level grunts were held accountable for what was clearly the policy of high-level policymakers. And I think that’s quite problematic.
But, that even that hasn’t happened. Those in America and the world are still waiting for that miniscule amount of justice to occur.
In the meantime, even though the Obama Administration did release CIA memos on torture tactics it had at one point considered keeping secret (the techniques Zelikow found to be illegal), the Administration has supported the CIA’s efforts to keep cables on illegal waterboarding secret. The Administration also has shown no interest in the fact that the CIA destroyed interrogation tapes and, in fact, the Justice Department helped the CIA escape efforts by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) to hold the spy agency in contempt for the tapes’ destruction.
The Zelikow memo importantly reminds people of the fact that crimes were being committed by the Bush Administration. It also reminds people that torture, as well as cruel and inhuman treatment that might be defines as less than torture, has for the most part been decriminalized by the Obama Administration, and, no matter what information is obtained by groups dedicated to civil liberties and open government in the coming years, there isn’t likely to be any accountability for the crimes committed by Bush Administration officials.
*For the National Security Archive’s complete “Torture Archive,” part of an effort to maintain an institutional memory on renditions, detainees, interrogations and torture, go here.



44 Comments

The “evolving standards of decency”, especially relying on post-1980 Supreme Court judgments is a slippery slope as is the “shock the conscience” test.
Those who support torture have made it so that there is a state exception of standards of decency and no one’s conscience seems to be shocked anymore after the Abu Ghraib reports.
I found Zelikow’s opinion to be a very weasel-wordy way of supporting what the PtB wanted to do. And not the criticism of practice it was portrayed to be.
I was also interested in the exceptionalistic way the Congress in ratifying the Convention Against Torture carve out the freedom for the US legally to do anything it wanted to do. Details and the contents of implementing legislation are important.
Your comment addresses another dimension of Zelikow’s memo that is extremely important. I may highlight in an update to this post or in an additional post. I agree that it isn’t a full-blooded condemnation of the use of torture. It still is something mired in legalese that obscures the immorality of torture. And that he is willing to allow some of abhorrent techniques because it might be tough to argue they caused “cruel and unusual” punishment is another aspect of the memo that is bothersome.
Zelikow certainly took care to put neither himself nor his government career at any risk, certain or otherwise, TD.
Considering the qualms he professes to have harbored, his reactions and efforts seem both meek and mild, calculated to raise no hackles or shiver even the most tiny of ripples …
No whistle blower, he.
Thank you, Kevin, the history is “interesting”, the “reminders” important but toothless and impotent, although we have now, at least, one clear and shining example of a “constitutional lawyer” who polished his better apples and appeased his better angels, while bringing no chagrin to the “Decider” … who remains able, and most willing, to say …” …I knew nothing”.
It is now most very clear, that “following orders”, even when such orders never came from specific “higher-ups”, IS now a credible defense as well as a sacred protection before and from the “law”, at least in the USA, and presumably, every elsewhere …?
DW
I think it might be valuable to do a shorter follow-up post that just points out how Zelikow could have been a “crusader” for justice but chose to protect his career. The documents the National Security Archive include testimony he gave before Congress where he explicitly said he was unwilling to say if OLC lawyers deserved prosecution or had done anything illegal.
I may put something up later today or tomorrow.
Looking forward to that further post, Kevin.
Much appreciate your efforts on so very many “fronts”.
DW
That devil’s greatest crime is the 9/11 Commission Report.
“No one is above the law.”
The above is one of the reasons that I will have a very hard time voting for President Obama for a second term (although there isn’t much of an alternative).
It doesn’t take a genius to go through the trail of things that the Bush administration did to try to cover itself in case this was taken to court.
Bush/Cheney et al should be sitting in jail.
My consolation is that they will be spending eternity in hell.
Now, now, have a heart, dogjudge.
;~DW
Zelikow wrote a memo so he should get Immunity from War Crimes? First of all, Zelikow is good friends with Cass Sunstein, which means the RatFuckers have their own Conspiracy. No European vacations for you.
Next, Zelikow could have stopped the Torture in 2005. Then he could have revealed that the 9-11 Commission used false confessions obtained from torture. And the 9-11 Commission gets the award for Worst Government Coverup Ever. Zelikow wastes our time and is a distraction with more coverups and InfoOps. But that is Zelikow’s specialty.
Indeed, lakezoarian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_D._Zelikow
DW
Thanks, Kevin, for providing the info, and I look forward to the possibility of another post examining this.
US citizens – sound asleep – permitting heinous crimes to continue. Unless We, the People, stand up and demand something different, more of the same and worse to follow.
Clearly Zelikow offers some sort of mealy-mouthed “disclaimer.” Maybe that helps him sleep at night? Screw that.
From the memo:
“We are unaware of any precedent in World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, or any subsequent conflict for authorized, systematic interrogation practices similar to the ones in question here, even where the prisoners were presumed to be unlawful combatants.”
If he believes this, then he simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
The Phoenix Program
That plus 50 cents and a crackerjack box top and we will send you the Lone Ranger’s silver bullet with a built-in secret flashlight.
Okay, so who screwed up and kept this one copy of this self-serving memo from being destroyed?
Didn’t know about Cass Sunstein. Thanks. Explain a bit about the transition team.
The key weasel word is “unlawful combatants”, a trope of the Bush administration to avoid the Geneva Conventions. The Phoenix program didn’t pretend to be legal. But the current program does.
Zelikow was appointed executive director of the 9/11 Commission
but now he is on the Gates Foundation roll, and is a source for two books that explain that he was against torture -
I like to think GW/Cheney was toxic and this fellow is a recovering evil one – I’d rather not condemn him as much as the others.
An investigation into the US human rights commitments that aren’t would be in order. I had forgotten that the text of conventions and treaties gets ratified with what are essentially Senate signing statements, often effectively excluding real implementation other than to claim signatory status. Would be nice to have an overview of where this has been used in what the man-in-the-street thinks are international law.
“No one is above the law.”
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dj…I think we’ve changed that here in the good ol’ US of A. Remember, “If the president does it, it’s NOT illegal.”
Gotta LOVE Richard E. Nixon.
Son of a bitch. What do they think a shredder is FOR?????
Idiots!!!!!
Uh, that was Richard M. Nixon.
You probably confused him with Alfred E. Neuman
What? Me worry?
So, lemme get this right, an “unlawful combatant” is a person who is fighting against you WITHOUT a declaration of war????
WHOA, that’s gonna open up a can of worms………I think we resemble that remark.
You must be young…..Richard E Nixon is what Archie Bunker always called him.
The Dulles CIA program to kill torture around the world from Africa to South America to the Mid East to SE Asia was in Vietnam under the CIA in 64 and renamed Phoenix in late 67 and ended around 1972 except it had a budget to 1975 and was actually in 1972 mostly just rename “F-6″ and not in the budget at that point.
I’m not sure anyone worried about it being “legal” in the 40′s, 50′s, 60. 70′s etc. – or today.
The memo notes this fact and worries about the McCain bill that implied that torture ended if you were in our control.
Before McCain 2005, Cheney had a case, if overseas and our friends had “control”. Albeit that makes the Langley water boarding in the US in 2001-2005 still an international war crime – but who cares about the international court’s opinion?
yep
Who says academics are wimps? Zelikow and Sunstein are just as vicious and brutal as any dictator. Their accusations about “hardcore conspiracy theorists” (not the softcore kind) applies most of all to neo-cons.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585
Marcy has some interesting context:
Philip Zelikow Saves Condi’s Hiney (again)
I maintain that Zelikow condemns himself, papau, by his very caution and the deceit of refusing, when called upon by conscience and the genuine need of human justice, to do what was right and proper, and his tepid memo is not the least of it. If you are aware of his role on the 911 Commission, and read the wikipedia link, then I consider that you protesteth Zelikow’s innocence and claimed new-found good faith overmuch, methinks.
Are you, btw, suggesting that being on the Gates Foundation “roll” is evidence of goodness, of having found his way back to righteousness?
Such an assertion strikes me as quite laughable and not grounded in a genuine grasp of the destruction which Gates and his “interests” have wrought, legally, economically, and educationally, upon this nation and society. I do not, by any stretch, consider Bill Gates a hero or admirable, nor his “foundation” anything but another “tool” for him to use in having his way …
Further, “explanations”, or books written, after the fact of TORTURE little convince or move me … as an honorable man would have dared to take an honest stand … when confronted with the truth.
Frankly, Frank33′s suggestion of a friendship, a “history”, between Zelikow and Sunstein DOES go quite some distance, for me, in explaining the Obama administration’s insistence that “policy differences” would not be “criminalized” …
Our opinions, papau, at least concerning Zelikow and a few other “matters”, apparently differ, ‘twould seem quite widely, a fact that bothers me not in the least as, I hope and trust, it does not much discomfit you.
DW
Zelikow is a self-proclaimed myth-maker. His adult career has been spent writing (and with his management of the 9/11 Commission, making) revisionist history, to wit:
http://www.theatlantic.com/past/issues/2000/05/stern.htm
I don’t trust anything he says at face value.
Associate Dean Zelikow. It has a respectable sound, to it, as if this was a decent human being. But Dr. Evil, after creating wars based on torture confessions, is now part of Bill Gates Crime Family.
Zelikow is on the President’ “Intelligence Advisory Board”. After pretending to be anti-Irak War, the President lets Zelikow make more wars. How many disasters has Zelikow promoted? How many more will he promote?
Absolutely.
I smell sulphur, too.
TD, thanks for that. Fascinating reading!!!
This “Do as we say not as we do” is really starting to disturb me. I just can’t believe OUR country has sunk to this.
What am I saying? Despicable Donald Rumsfeld, that dick Cheney, and numbnuts Bush were involved. Nothing should surprise me. Just tell the DoJ what you want them to say and they’ll “draft’ an opnion.
Lucky we don’t subscribe to the International Court in the Hague.
The greatest crime is that the citizens of the US accepted the 9/11 Commission Report as gospel, because that acceptance allowed the government to implement a police state and establish “terrorists” as the “Red Menace” of the 21st century, while justifying preemptive war.
Our government is filled with traitors and prevaricators- many of them in control since the time of Nixon… just changed hats along the way, once they got rid of JFK. Psychopaths all. Traitors all. There may be but a handful that could redeem themselves under oath. I wish we could try them all.
You actually needed another reason to not vote for Obama? We get a corporate puppet no matter who “wins” the (s)election.
Remember that the mantra of the Obama Administration is “look forward, not backward”. I want the secret decoder ring. Could I get that rather than the silver bullet?
Sorry – forgot the required /s
No you are correct of course.
The only serious point was that he is small fish – GW/Cheney and the part of the CIA that staged the dance for them are the center point of this evil (much – most – of the CIA are real heroes with real morals, based on my neighbors over the years, but they don’t run the place).
The only other point is that ever since Dulles brothers – of Dulles Airport (I dislike fact that 2 of DC’s airports are named for Reagan and Dulles) – and CIA getting control of our countries morals, the US has done evil abroad with not much concern beyond the usual Chomsky comment (I dislike the way Chomsky lies by omission on many things – but thank God for his voice).
The memo is concerned by a NEW LAW – the McCain bill of 2005 – that appeared to change the rules. Zelikow’s memo, IS, IMHO, a bit of sticking your neck out, albeit it is a timid attempt to obey that law – but given the environment the fellow is well down my list of evil doers.
Lucky for Zelikow our educational system has not educated enough people to understand the physics doesn’t match the story.
Zelikow is not a small fish, papau, he is in the very middle of the school of very fishy folk.
The Bush administration’s willingness to lie the nation into war and then to engage in torture grew directly from Bush v. Gore, by which means a blatantly partisan Court CHOSE Bush as President and made clear to Bush and his fellows (and to the political class as a buy-partisan whole) that they could successfully get away with anything … even as the Court itself got away with doing tremendous and irreparable harm to the people and the nation … and killed the Rule of Law.
Zelikow like Sunstein and like Obama, himself, later would do, took well to “heart” the lesson the Rehnquist Court smugly, illegally and immorally taught … and that is that no one of the press or ANY other member or part of the political class will gainsay the raw, brute exercise and abuse of power, they will excuse and privately cheer it … What Zelikow did, what very “little” he did, was to protect himself and, and I do consider that Marcy Wheeler is correct about this, to protect Condi Rice’s “hiney”, whose “fixer” little minnow Zelikow most certainly, among all his other connections and “duties”, was …
And then, there are those who trumpet the notion of “lesser” evil …
What unrighteous and dangerous poppycock.
DW
I do agree with you, papau, about the Dulles brothers and, someday … we might chat about the “intellectual elite” whom the Dulles brothers encouraged and promoted … the writers and “opinion makers” who “primed the pump” of current day American exceptionalism and the myths of the American Century and America’s destiny to rule and subjugate the world …
None of “them” are little fishes, they are all aggressive, human devouring sharks and always bloody dangerous, as they are always hungry and also willing to do what they are told … no real or genuine questions ever asked, no concern nor consideration but getting on with the “task” …
DW
Thanks for bring up the Dulles brothers. Checked their bios and found this:
Sullivan and Cromwell
Interesting list of alums.
With this subject popping up again over detainees in U.S. custody, torture, cruel and unusual punishment, dehumanizing and debasing treatment of detainees, I couldn’t help but think of the U.S. Supreme Court’s 5-4 decision last week in which five Catholic Republican-appointed justices ruled that detainees in U.S. custody in the United States can be strip searched, no matter what the reason or how minor the suspected offense might be that got them hauled by the police to jail in the first place.
IOW, reading the “opinion” of Justice Kennedy in favor of strip searching “prisoners,” no matter why they were picked up, sounds like the arguments Bush administration officials, lawyers or not, made regarding picking up and torturing suspected al Qaeda terrorists, anything goes, the U.S. Constitution doesn’t matter, the Conventions Against Torture don’t matter, American treaties don’t matter.
Republicans, across the board, seem to be beset with “tortured” minds, “tortured” logic and “tortured” morals.
Bottom line: Zelikow only blanched at some of the torture.
In a very related story, Jason Leopold and I published an analysis of the first actual SERE working doc the Bush Principals used to okay torture in May 2002, before the Yoo memos. You can download the document – Pre-Academic Laboratory Manual – at the story, too. — Bottom line here, authorities state this manual was for a class to inoculate US prisoners from the type of torture used to get false confessions, or be used for propaganda purposes.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/8278-exclusive-guidebook-to-false-confessions-key-document-john-yoo-used-to-draft-torture-memo-released
Great work. Thanks for posting a link here.