
Julian Assange leaving High Court in London on Nov 2, 2011 (photo: Beacon Radio)
The Latin-American country of Ecuador is considering WikiLeaks editor-in-chief Julian Assange’s request for asylum. On June 18, he entered the Ecuadorean embassy in the United Kingdom and formally requested that his home country, Australia, had abandoned him and he was now under threat of extradition to Sweden for questioning where he could be then extradited to the United States, be put on trial and possibly face the death penalty.
The coverage from media in the US, UK and Australia has been nothing but dismissive or outright sneering. Rather than admitting Assange is within his legal right to seek and apply for asylum from any country like Ecuador, media have focused on tangential issues. They’ve reported supporters that donated money to Assange’s bail fund could lose the money—£240,000 ($370,000)—because he violated his terms of bail when he failed to report to his “registered bail address near Tunbridge Wells, Kent, after 10pm on Monday.” They’ve suggested Ecuador is “anti-press” and so it is quite ironic that Assange would want asylum from the country’s government. They’ve said Ecuador President Rafael Correa and Julian Assange to deserve each other because they are “anti-American.” And they’ve rehashed a smear that he is doing this for attention and to create drama, which the public has heard in some variation since WikiLeaks began to publish the major caches of documents like the Iraq and Afghanistan War Logs and the US State Embassy cables in 2010.
Bail Conditions Violated
With regards to the issue of Assange violating the terms of his bail, it is fine to report this so people understand the situation. The violation of his bail terms is why police are currently waiting outside of the embassy to arrest Assange when he emerges. It further complicates Assange’s request because, if Ecuador grants the request, the embassy then has to figure out how to get Assange on an airplane to Ecuador without police arresting him. However, one would think the media would actually know of an Assange supporter (perhaps even someone who was a high-profile supporter) who was upset with Assange’s decision to seek asylum if they were going to run headlines about how he has short changed his “famous mates.” One might think there should actually be supporters who feel betrayed by Assange’s decision to make this move if such an issue were to be raised, but no such supporters appear to exist. The best the media can come up with is this Twitter message from Jemima Khan, the former wife of cricketer and now prominent Pakistani politician Imran Khan: “Yes. I had expected him to face the allegations. I am as surprised as anyone by this.”
Correa, Enemy of the Press
On President Correa’s supposed chilling of press freedom and why Assange would choose this country, the media that raise this issue conveniently overlook the fact that, when Correa appeared on Assange’s show, “The World Tommorow,” Assange shared how he had been opposed to the way Correa’s regime had been imposing reforms on the country. Here’s Assange’s complete expression of what he thinks about Correa’s new media laws and then Correa’s full reply to the question posed by Assange:
President Correa, as you know for many years I have been fighting a fight for freedom of expression, for the right for people to communicate, for the right to publish true information. We are not an organisation that publishes opinion, so we are not in a fight about whether our opinions are true, we are in a fight about the right to publish true documents from big governments and big corporations. And we have fought against media laws that are bad, like in England there are big businessmen who are able to stop the truth from being published. There are secret gag orders on many President Correa, as you know for many years I have been fighting a fight for freedom of expression, for the right for people to communicate, for the right to publish true information. We are not an organisation that publishes opinion, so we are not in a fight about whether our opinions are true, we are in a fight about the right to publish true documents from big governments and big corporations. And we have fought against media laws that are bad, like in England there are big businessmen who are able to stop the truth from being published.
There are secret gag orders on many publications within England and in other countries, like the United States and Sweden, there is a lot of self censorship where journalists are scared to publish…scared to write about powerful people because they will be attacked. So, my initial instinct for these media changes in Ecuador was to be opposed, because I normally see governments trying to stop us from speaking. But then I… then I spoke at SIP – [Inter-American Press Society] – this media alliance and I was told beforehand ‘Oh, these SIP people, they are really… they are terrible, terrible people’, and I thought to myself ‘Well, I can speak with anyone, you know, I can find some… some part that we agree on – maybe we disagree on ten parts but maybe we agree on one, so I should speak’, but I was horrified that this SIP was some kind of caricature.
It was… you know, there was someone there from the Washington Post who was clearly very close to the State Department and this then opened my mind to understanding that actually that the media in Latin America, or some of the media in Latin America, really are a problem for democratic reforms in Latin America, and that… that it’s true, that it’s a fact, that there are these problems. So I want to hear more from you about this tension…
Correa answered:
You yourself are a very good example of how the media and the press and these corporations like the SIP, which is no other than a council of the owners of newspapers in Latin America. About your WikiLeaks they’ve published many books. This one which is an Argent [Argentinian], you know, where he analyses country by country and against Ecuador shows how in a very open way the media did not publish the cables that were against us, for example, disputes about…among media groups, and then they agree not to publish things which are the dirty linen in public. I read the translation in Spanish that – from WikiLeaks -that Ecuadorian press never published. More worrying than the recurrent threat… to trials of journalists that at the time when the President Lucio Gutiérrez, a previous president, was the worrying effect of the private interests in the media showed in the dispute in TC Television, which was a group of banks, and Teleamazonas, which was another group of bankers, and the Embassy concludes in your WikiLeaks – in your information – the fact that the media feels free to criticise the government but not a fugitive banker, and the memo of the Embassy reveals a great deal as to where exactly power resides in Ecuador.
These are the messages that WikiLeaks made public and the media in Ecuador did not publish. So then, you can see the kind of things that we confront in Ecuador and in Latin America. We believe, dear Julian, the only limits to information and to the freedom of expression are those that exist in international treaties, in the international conventions of human rights, the honours and reputation of people, and the security of people and of the State. Everything else, the more people knows about them the better, and you have expressed your fear, recurrent among journalists – or good-faith journalists – but which are stereotypes of the fear that the State power limits freedom of expression. That almost doesn’t exist in Latin America, it’s… are idealisations, myths. Please understand that today the media power was and is probably much greater than political power, in fact normally has political power in function to defend their interests, economic power, social power and, above all, the informational power. And they have been the great electors.
That is not to say that Ecuador is sterling when it comes to press freedom. However, those raising the issue of press freedom in the context of Assange’s decision to seek asylum have not written much of anything at all about who owns and has typically owned the media in Ecuador. In fact, Correa asserts the media were involved in the 2010 coup attempt by corrupt police, where Correa was kidnapped and military troops had to rescue him. He maintains they have an interest in destabilizing the country to make it impossible for him to govern. But, none of that is given consideration when suggesting Assange’s request is fool-headed.
Anti-American Troublemakers Made for Each Other
Then, there’s the idea that both Correa and Assange are “anti-American” so isn’t it great that Assange managed to get to the embassy to ask for help? Canadian international lawyer Robert Amsterdam told CNN, “It’s a very smart move to go there. Ecuador’s President Rafael Correa and Assange have mutual interests — they both support the idea that the U.S. is an imperial power that has to be checked…From a Latin perspective, what a glorious thing to get Assange.” Amsterdam emphasized how Ecuador is “hostile” toward US foreign policy and suggested he would be “welcomed” just for that fact.
The Washington Post editorial board went a step further (which is not surprising since they may have ties to the media organizations fighting Correa). They call Correa a “small-time South American autocrat,” who is in a position to take the “role of chief Yanqui-baiter and friend-to-rogues, which Mr. Chavez has modeled for the past dozen years” since Chavez is “dying” of cancer. They describe a “sycophantic interview” on a “Russian state propaganda outlet” where Assange and Correa “wallowed” in “anti-American slanders and paranoia” and Correa cried, “Welcome to the club of the persecuted!” And the editorial board argued Assange has “little to gain,” as he will be arrested by UK police even if granted asylum, but, on the other hand, Correa “could make himself a hero with the global anti-American left by embracing Mr. Assange’s cause.”
The editorial is symptomatic of the fact that Assange’s request for asylum in a Latin-American country perceived by the US to be governed by a left-wing autocrat formed a nexus destined to make any US media outlet promote sneering commentary ignorant of inconvenient facts. Even though the Post published multiple stories on US diplomatic cables, the Post loathes Assange and WikiLeaks because of what it represents and how its commitment to “scientific journalism”—the publishing of actual documents for public consumption—threatens their gatekeeper role in the US. And, as a US media outlet, they are consumed by American exceptionalism and function as a purveyor of government propaganda that reinforces the culture of imperialism in American society.
A “Fabulist” Creating Drama
Finally, to the charge that Assange is just doing this to create drama, the media have made it seem like Assange is hysterical to think he could end up in the grips of the United States if he goes to the United States. Commentators and headlines have wondered why the US would not just try to extradite him from the UK now if they wanted him in their custody. Joan Smith of The Independent called Assange’s asylum a part of an ongoing “one-man psychodrama.”
Lawyer for WikiLeaks, Michael Ratner of the Center for Constitutional Rights, pushed back against this perception and described on “Democracy Now!” why the US government would wait until he was in Sweden to request his extradition:
It would have—for the U.S. to move within Britain, of course, it would have complicated matters a great deal, because then he’s facing a Swedish—a Swedish prosecution, and then the U.S. comes in. So what happens to the U.S.—to the U.S. indictment? And then, of course, Julian Assange gets notice that he’s been indicted in the United States, and of course it makes his situation more precarious. And in addition, he would have probably been able to remain on the streets in London, whereas the U.S., really, I think, probably understood that as soon as he gets into Sweden, he’s in prison, he may—those charges may not amount—not charges, those allegations may not amount to anything once he testifies, once he gives evidence, and then they can keep him in prison with this warrant.
And I also think that, if you look at the situation, Sweden versus the U.K., the U.K. can take years to get someone extradited. I mean, we know of the case—I forgot his name, but the young man who supposedly hacked into the Pentagon computer to find out about UFOs—seven, eight years on his extradition. Incredible extradition lawyers in London. It’s a big country. Sweden, whatever we think of Sweden, its justice system certainly seems to have some problems, because Julian Assange would be in jail without bail. And also, it’s a smaller country and just can be knocked around more by the United States.
A responsible press in this instance would evaluate the claims by Assange that he would face political persecution in Sweden if he allowed himself to be extradited without struggle. Fair skepticism might resemble Peter Galbraith’s commentary, where he writes, “Much as US officials might want him in jail, the legal and constitutional barriers to a successful prosecution are insurmountable. There is no basis for extradition.” Galbraith at least weighs the possibility rather than concocting sidebar reasons that attack Assange’s personality and cajole his supporters to abandon him.
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The breadth of caricature, misinformation, misrepresentation and pretentiousness in coverage of Assange’s asylum request would be surprising if it weren’t for the fact that media have allowed many labels and smears to be attached to Assange without question. As of now, it would be hard to fault someone from the public who called Assange a sleazy, self-important, anti-American, anti-Semitic and high-tech info-terrorist. That is, in fact, the perception which the total coverage by media has created, since press began reporting on him extensively in 2010.
Pundits like David Allen Green have also offered simplistic, un-nuanced and vainglorious comments like, Assange is “entitled to assert whatever legal rights he has in resisting extradition to Sweden to answer serious allegations of rape and sexual assault. But every delay, every evasion, of Assange in answering these allegations is also a further delay in dealing with the allegations.” This obscures the fact that this is not merely a case of a man trying to escape accountability for rape or sexual assault. It has, as journalist Alexa O’Brien has detailed, not necessarily been free of bias or prosecutorial misconduct. (And, in fact, if one argues this, they do not actually believe Assange is entitled to asserting his legal rights.)
The media have once again shown how much they despise an insurrectionist of the people who is committed to disseminating the truth of corruption in institutions so that they cannot continue to use secrecy to conceal crimes, misconduct and wrongdoing. They have once again shown they despise him because in one year he did what media institutions should have done from at least 2001-2010. He laid bare the operations of the US military and US diplomats so all could see the atrocity, conceit, depravity and underhandedness of US foreign policy.
That media cannot understand his fear of extradition to the United States is not because they do not know the logic behind his anxiety. It is rather because they are committed to playing an elite role in society that might be jeopardized if they admitted governments just might be bullied by the United States into handing over Assange for a political trial in the United States.



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Left this on the end of the last thread.
Interesting take by McGovern
Huh. Interesting take.
Wikileaks Asylum Liveblog reports:
Why is he leaving the Ecuadoran embassy?
The Liveblog gives no specific reason that he would leave, only that the police will arrest him for violating his curfew when he does. I read that to mean Assange will be arrested on his way to the airport to flee, but that was not stated in the text.
He’s too smart to leave the embassy with the idea to leave the country.
Besides no decision has been made by Ecuador yet, so leaving the country would seem premature.
If McGovern’s hypothesis proves out, Brits are embarrassed at blatant caving to U.S. pressure & will be happy to let him sneak out the back door, once Ecuador has announced decision.
If all that were the case, amassing of demonstrators in the neighborhood would seem counterproductive at best, bone-headed in the middle and disastrous for Assange in likely reality.
I think what you are reading is supporters plan to try and be there to maybe help Assange get into a car and leave if Ecuador agrees to the asylum request. He could be arrested even if asylum is granted so maybe supporters would swarm and try to help him into a diplomatic car (because means of diplomatic transport like embassies are “inviolable”).
Swarming an Assange car on the way to the airport, where he will undoubtedly have to spend some time not under diplomatic protection, sounds like stupidity personified.
I may be wrong but if they got him into a diplomatic car and it flew to a diplomatic plane, wouldn’t the UK have to let the plane take off? And if he was on board, it would seem there would be little the UK could do.
He has to get out of the car to get into the plane.
What do you think of McGovern’s hypothesis?
Note that the final paragraph of the Washington Post editorial goes so far as to threaten Ecuador with a termination of its favored trade status with the U.S. if it does not submit to U.S. demands. That’s pretty much an admission of the reality of Yankee bullying.
As other people have pointed out Sweden could have sent representatives to interview him in England, but they did not. The trial in Sweden would be conducted in private, the sure sign of a real democracy. No reporters or witnesses. I don’t think there is any reason to hurry Assange out of the embassy. Australia, his country of birth, has refused to protect him.
I listened to Mark Weisbrot discuss the issue on Pacifica today and he said the NYT article about Assange was the worst article he has read in the Times in many years.
Worse than what the Washington Post editorial board published last night?
Sweden and the (likely) trumped up harassment accusations have always been a scheme to hijack Assange into the U.S. I’d love to see the U.S. memos that describe the scheme.
Assange interviewed Rafael Correa one month ago.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2012/jun/20/julian-assange-ecuadors-president-rafael-correa-video
I think it is more likely the police are like the Keystone Kops and they just weren’t paying attention to him.
What McGovern writes about the police not intercepting him on his way to the embassy is interesting. And no media have actually asked questions about the police. They’ve just decided to create some sideshow about supporters being slighted.
Yes. That was my reading of the liveblog, too.
Here’s a thought:
Given Obama’s persistence in calling in every chit he could, to go after Assange, what would he have done if he were dealing with Daniel Ellsberg after Ellsberg outed The Pentagon Papers?
How much leverage can Obama bring to bear on Ecuador?
Can’t they just put a wig and fake moustache on him and let him take the tube???? Nobody would expect that.
To state the obvious, it is a delicious irony that a journalist needs to seek political asylum in South American to be safe from persecution by the US. Cognitive Dissonance for everyone!
US Establishment Media whining about Correa’s handling of an Ecuadoran press owned largely by far-right and/or corporatist interests is eerily reminiscent of their same whining about Chavez’ handling of a Venezuelan press owned largely by far-right and/or corporatist interests.
This is another example of responsible news reporting – AP: Assange decision ‘in hours or days.’
Does anybody really know where Ecuador is???
Are they somewhere near Bolivia???? And, WTF does Ecuadorian President Correa have against the US???? It’s not like we’re droning HIS country.
Yes and, according to Assange, when he tried to figure out if he should be opposed to Correa’s heavy-handed media reforms, he found a media association that has tried to discredit Correa had people with ties to the Washington Post involved.
WOW!
People seeking political refuge from the United States???
That’s a new one.
Well, relatively new.
“we’re standing outside the Ecuadorian Embqassy. We don;t know if Assange is in there or not. He may have been there and left. Or he may not have arrived yet, if, indeed he is going to arrive. If he is there, of if he has arrived already, or is due imminently, we do not know how log he will stay….Now, football scores, Wellesley-Stockton ties 0-0, York and Westminster, final score 0-0, East London and Brighton are in the 84th minute and their score is 0-0.”
Hehheh. IMO, South American countries have p.l.e.n.t.y of issues that make America hating popular among politicos there. What did Correa say about the only country safe from a coup backed by America is the US because there is no American Embassy there.
IMHO far more likely he would be simply ‘disappeared’ like Bradley Manning and so many others these days. Amerikkian ‘justice’ is a mockery of the word.
Boy, ain’t that the truth.
Does Roman Polansky have an extra bedroom????
It’s not like the US was suspected of helping to foment a coup that Correa managed to escape.
YSD, damn…..that’ pretty profound.
Never thought of that. Smart guy that Correa.
They can always bring in a diplomatic helicopter. It can then drop a diplomatic ladder and he can climb into the helicopter.
But on a serious note, if U.S. is not interested in Assange, they could have disavowed their interest in him. It seems at this point that the U.S. is going to be in a untenable position on future human rights statements. Obviously, no one believes this crap anymore, except the most naive Americans. How many blind Chinese human rights workers can the U.S. save from evil Chinese empire without making people laugh. The Chinese obviously made a deal just to get him out of the country. And then to soil the American image? So to me this shows that people who say he is in danger are right.
Also, he could taunt the U.S. by flying into the U.S. and seeing what will happen. At some point the beast will have to be faced.
That’s one of the big questions all the bloviating Kevin describes is intended to hide.
So let’s look at it.
On the one hand, the US really wants Assange’s hide. On the other hand, Ecuador is literally the only thing close to a friend of the US in any of the “leftist” parts (aka the non-right-wing non-narco-state parts) of Latin America. If the US is truly serious about encouraging the end of the very right-wing dictatorships it encouraged as part of the “Chicago Boys” plan – and if Obama wants to still claim that there is a meaningful fo-po distance between himself and his deeply hated predecessor Bush – it would not be wise of him to do anything Correa can use to point up Obama’s hypocrisy.
Will the US torch its relations with Ecuador, the last decent country left in Latin America that will speak to it, just to get a guy who exposed its actions? Judging from the intense efforts to smear Correa, it certainly seems so.
Unsubstantiated rumor based on hearsay, innuendo and unapproved government leaks that, while authorized, were not itended for general distribution.
Ah, the WaPo arm of Kaplan Test Prep, run by neocon asshole Fred “Is it good for Likud?” Hiatt. Lanny Davis’ anti-democratic stylings with regard to his golpista paymasters in Honduras found a welcome home in the Post’s pages, IIRC.
You have obviously never tried to climb one of theose damn ladders. It looks easy in the movies. But this wimpy, out of shape FRench dude??? No way. CHopper downdraft will blow his boney ass to Trafalgar Square.
see my #18.
WE may ALL be jumping the gun here………….
http://www.liveandinvestoverseas.com/best-places-to-retire/ecuador.html?gclid=CPbOvefs37ACFVJntgodAQgSxA
Could be a coincidence???
I thouhgt you promised me you wouldn’t use those obscure referneces that I don’t understand anymore???
I could be wrong about this, but of all the factors that motivate Barack Obama, I don’t believe the fear of being called a hypocrite who is untrue to his stated ideals is the one that keeps him up at night.
P.S.: What does fo-po mean?
Is it possible to leave the embassy through the sewer system still wearing your disguise plus a poncho, and then go to the tube? Of course, the smell will give him away. After all, this was done by partisans in many countries during wars in Europe.
This is the risk one takes being against the system.
A good makeup artist and some new papers should get Assange on a plane. And maybe, just maybe, the bobbies aren’t gonna pay too much attention if they don’t see a blond dude coming out of the building, if they’re paying much attention anyway. Just cuz that bobby’s out there doesn’t mean he’s lookin’.
Death penalty, I hadn’t heard that before. What would be the basis?
Bradley Manning has been charged with “aiding the enemy,” because even through he’s a principled whistleblower, someone from al Qaeda could have read the stuff on the subway so he was helping al-Qaeda, which means he practically is al-Qaeda. Maybe he gave the stuff to Assange and Assange published it and he wanted to show the world what the U.S. government was up to but someone from al-Qaeda could have read it on the subway so he practically is al-Qaeda, see? Off with his head!
Or something like that.
Fo-po = “Foreign Policy”
Is water wet?
Thing is, the bobbies won’t be the ones watching for him — we will be. Hell, the US Embassy probably has already sent over employees who are British subjects to attempt a citizens’ arrest should they spot Assange (and if his ankle bracelet’s still working and unhacked, they’ll know when he makes any moves).
Bluewombat on Obama:
“…I don’t believe the fear of being called a hypocrite who is untrue to his stated ideals is one that keeps him up at night.”
Not considering the foot-long checklist of his sellouts.
BTW, I’ve been crossing swords with Phoenixwoman lately, but a few days ago, she posted what is probably the most relevant…and saddest…comment about Barack Obama that has been written on here in many a moon:
“A brave and principled stance can generate political capital like nothing else.”
After what amounts to a landslide win in 2008, in the ensuing 3-and-a-half-years, we have yet to see anything remotely resembling that from this man.
Heh.
I just poked around a little bit and it seems his lawyers are promoting that possibility as an excuse to keep him from being deported anywhere.
The case could be made against Manning (although I obviously don’t think it should be) because he’s an American distributing secerets, but I don’t know of any US law Assange broke that would warrant the death penalty.
There are a couple of things that I think should be reiterated. First, why is Sweden asking for extradition? JA is not charged with any crime. They “only want to question him.” Second, the crime that he is accused of commiting, aiding the enemy, a form of treason, is a death penalty offense, except he is not a US citizen, so the law should not actually apply to him. JA now will have to live out his life as Salman Rushdie did for several years. The difference is that the Islamic leadership changed its mind; the US govt never will.
I am sure they will send an American bounty hunter DOG. He will then break into the embassy and bring Assange out. We will be able to see a special on one of the cable channels.
alan1tx, you beat me to it. I would carry it a step further and say that he probably broke no US law that he could actually be tried for.
What’s law got to do with it? He publically humiliated our government and showed its hypocrisy for all the world to see. My post responding to yours was satirical, of course, but I believe that’s the way our government really thinks.
I suspect Venezuela would help support Ecuador to relieve any undo US pressure. I think the Cuban Embassy in London would have been a better option. Philip Agee lived there for years.
I also agree that Bradley Manning is simply a pawn being used to get Assange. Manning, if he released all of what is said, performed a public service, especially the helicopter murders and attempted murders.
I can think of two actions that would have been brave acts building political capital. Acceptance of equal marriage and Dreamer decision.
Sadly, the bravery of those actions was mitigated by the cynical use of election year politicking.
Is Assange on that drone list?
Git that messenger. The billionaires and their henchmen can’t have some gossip shining floodlights into their nefarious darkness and exposing their schemes with impunity. I don’t guess they own Ecuador enough and probably won’t be able to shut him up once there. Ecuador is really quite a beautiful place. Didn’t Bush buy a large parcel of property in Ecuador after he and his brother stole the Presidency? And wasn’t there something about one of the big oil companies having been convicted there of dumping their excrement into the headwaters of the Amazon?
Paraguay. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence, but it’s the part of Paraguay next to the part of Bolivia that’s oil-rich and primarily white in ethnic stock, which has made rumblings about seceding from the country now that indigenous reformer (at least I think he’s still a reformer) Evo Morales is in charge.
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that within an hour or two of Assange’s arrival at the Ecuadorian embassy he was taken to an aircraft and flown out of the country. The bobbies didn’t react to his being missing until he missed his 10PM curfew on Monday evening. I don’t think it was a matter of whimsy that Assange chose the Ecuadorian embassy, imo a plan had already been agreed to before he arrived at the embassy.
That’s an interesting question.
Assange has been in the UK where a droning wouldn’t be acceptable to the host nation. Can’t have drone attacks in the west, mind you.
IMVHO, the US has an interest in creating the appearance of fairness through the courts to punish JA. What may happen if he slips from their grasp? Assassination seems unlikely, but who knows?
Interesting contrast between this post and the one preceding it about the US & Britain looking to give clemency to a murderous war criminal (Assad.)
Bush bought in Paraguay, IIRC.
Yeah, we’ll do that. The cold-eyed term that comes to mind is “realist foreign policy.”
From the Wikileaks Liveblog:
Answered your own question didn’t ya????
See, you’re confusing other people too.:-)
Makes sense to me.
You are an unending source of information. Thanks.
I’m pretty sure that embarrasing the government IS a capital offense in the minds of SOME.
And the right “some” is all they need.
America = very peculiar priorities.
IMO, should be on the money
Fine work, Kevin, thank you so much for bringing this all together in one place today. I knew instinctively that the whole reaction to Assange’s asylum request by major world media had to stink; now I understand why, thanks to your superb summary of the state of play.
Very well done.
How Ironic it is that Aung San Suu Kyi, Burmese Nobel Peace Prize recipient for promoting democracy and free speech in her homeland, is being fetted by PM Cameron. At the same time, Julian Assange is being persecuted for promoting free speech worldwide.
Can you please do the rest of us the courtesy of keeping other threads’ disputes in those threads, and honor the contributing blogger by keeping to the topic at hand?
You don’t even politely warn us that suddenly you’re veering off into personal disputes with other members of the community, and announcing wee exceptions to that dispute status, providing ridiculous tokens of your esteem for their good behavior.
It’s very tiresome, it’s disrespectful to Kevin, and comes perilously close to a banning offense under Jane’s Rules of Yesterday.
Please stop it.
This is so clear to anyone who lives in Washington DC who knows someone who has been in a fender-bender with an ambassador’s kid or nephew that it beggars understanding that it is “news” worth twittering. Every property, including offsite residences of high-ranking staff and cars registered and plated to the delegation, is sacrosanct and immune to incursion by the host country’s police authorities.
Anything else is, simply, an act of war.
Kevin, when you refer to the “media” in the US, the UK, and Australia it may be more accurate to describe them as governmental propaganda machines. Obama wants to prosecute and incarcerate Assange after he fulfilled one of Obama’s campaign promises of bringing more transparency to government. That seems to be somewhat hypocritical on the part of Obama. I’m rooting for Correa to take the correct action and grant him asylum. It will determine my future as well because it won’t be worthwhile to emigrate to a country that succumbs to US dictates.
If the NDAA was in effect, Obama would have disappeared Ellsberg or sent a drone to murder that “militant”.
Glad that you added that to the discussion. Before this Assange asylum seeking, I’d always assumed that once someone landed at the doors of an Embassy, safe passed from that country was a given. I’ve been trying to figure out where I went wrong in assuming everything should be fine for Assange since he made it onto the property of Ecuador.
Perhaps since Assange seeks protection from US persecution the rules are different?
What is in the supposed indictment from the grand jury? He could be accused of espionage in the service of the enemy, then he could be executed. This happened many times, for instance, during WWII.
It’s not really ironic that after being subjected to the oppressive policies of USA, Inc. including the deprivation and debt enslavement of disaster capitalism and support for authoritarian governments some of the Latin American countries have rejected the US and adopted actual democratic governments and policies that benefit their people. It’s very encouraging that democracy exists somewhere, especially when it’s not here, if it ever really was. What’s ironic is that the economic policies we used to subjugate sovereign nations has come home to roost.
RT-tv reports Ecuador could take days to make decision on Assange.
Ever since Ecuador closed the US military base there, our government has been trying to reestablish one to project our influence. The WikiLeaks cables revealed that a recent coup attempt by a portion of the police force was orchestrated by the US Ambassador, who was then ejected from the country. Ecuador, like many Latin American nations, were the targets of US corporate and government “meddling” and resent it, with justification.
Hopefully they’ll grant asylum and announce it after Assange is already out of the UK.
One wag I recently heard said that the only country that will never have a coup is the U.S. bc there is no U.S. embassy in the U.S.
I find all that speculation bizarre. What’s the point? We’ll know when we know.
Joe Biden already labeled Assange as a “cyber-terrorist”, in much the same way that Obama voiced his condemnation of Bradley Manning as guilty. I guess that would amount to what AG Holder refers to as “due process” rather than “judicial process”.
We already had a coup but only a few of us were paying attention.
Watching RT-tv live for the first time (have previously watched the Assange programs).
Much better than anything else I’ve seen, including alJaz, which has now revealed its spots as beholden to its masters.
Reserving the right to revise my opinion when I learn more about it.
One new piece of info: U.S. proxies are instigating ethnic conflict in Myanmar, just in the areas where China is doing econ development like pipelines, ports.
Gee, and so soon after Hillary’s visit. Didn’t think U.S. had it in it.
No wonder Suu Kyi got outta the country after she helped set it up.
Naw. Same old RWHs, just shifts from one rival group to another.
RT-tv sez losses of German bank losses are about 20% of German economy.
German real estate is location of current bubble. (Zero interest rates create bubbles somewhere, just a question of figuring out where.)
I know!! RT is pretty darn good.
Check out the Alyona Show. She does some fantastic interviews.
Another early tell about Obama: Choosing for veep this puppy-like eager-to-please pliable native of a state that is a haven for corporate tax cheating.
The US government hasn’t respected or operated within the “Rule of Law” for a long time. What makes you think this administration would begin now, especially after replacing the Bill of Rights with the Patriot Act and enacting laws to legalize disappearing “dissidents” and murdering alleged terrorists with drone strikes?
Will check it out. Got another day of heat to spend inside.
Interesting that all the real news can be found only on non-western media. Not surprising, mind you, just interesting that other sources have filled the gap.
I haven’t decided if it’s humorous or tragic that I watch “commie news” just about every day now.
What ever became of the alleged rape victim that Hillary “saved” from Libya? Is she sharing accommodations with the former Yemeni dictator?
Does anyone know if Assange still retains his nuclear option? The documents he held back, to be released if he was incarcerated?
We’re dealing with the government of USA, Inc. here. Logic is neither applicable nor appreciated.
Listen up, tanbark. The elites make the rules. They are not voted on. Henchmen help the elites keep it that way. So just please stop when ordered to stop, or you will be punished.
Doing Assange story on RT-tv.
AFAIK, the indictment is still secret. He could be accused of espionage, but it doesn’t matter. As I said before, if he gets through this alive, he will then be on the run and hiding for the rest of his life because the US govt never forgets and, starting with 0 (biden wouldn’t have accused JA if 0 had not approved, but it is plausible deniability for biden to say it). It wouldn’t surprise me that we get a video some years from now of the summary ending of Assange and the then pres crowing about it.
They already have. You have to admire Correa. When he was confronted by Hillary “The Hawk” Clinton requesting the re-establishment of a US military base in Ecuador, he replied that he’d consider it if the US agreed to let Ecuador establish a military base in Miami.
My understanding is that the “insurance file” that Assange had was taken by Daniel Domscheit-Berg (who’s wife has CIA ties!!) through all kinds of technical fiddling that I can’t even begin to explain. Perhaps this wiki has more on that.
So the short answer is that Assange no longer has an “insurance file”.
Correct. The automatic response from the govt is “go directly to jail, do not pass GO, do not collect $200.” There is no deviation.
The Bush Crime Family reportedly purchased 100 acres from Rev. Sun Myung Moon. Chevron was the company convicted of the environmental destruction. The latest election installed a “leftist” president in Paraguay so I’m sure that makes the Shrubs uncomfortable.
I’d heard the same thing. Assange was betrayed by the named former associate, just as Manning was betrayed by someone he trusted.
Assad is a “murderous war criminal” according to the NATO powers, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and their propaganda machines that are attacking Syria to isolate Iran. They wouldn’t lie to us would they? What are they saying about Bahrain and Libya?
Thanks for that.
Perhaps wew should send the USA Exxec branch and State dept to take a class in “How to Win Friends and Influence People”.Seems like we need a refresher course.
Doesn’t hurt to ask.
Tanbark didn’t disparage anyone or mount a personal attack in the comment@47, on the contrary, he lauded a statement made by PhoenixWoman. Please give it a rest.
It’s a pretty simple concept called the golden rule, that do unto others thing. It could also be described as stop meddling in our affairs and observe our sovereignity.
You are welcome. Remember, mum’s the word.
Gotcha. Naked pictures of Scarlett Johansson could not pry it from my lips.
X2
Aussie diplomatic cables confirm that U.S. DOJ is pursuing charges against Assange, as reported by Sydney Morning Herald: Assange felt ‘abandoned’ by Australian government after letter from Roxon:
Via Wikileaks Liveblog, here is a new radio interview with Assange about asylum.
Are you talking about the 1946 one, 1963 one, 1968 one, 1980 one, or the 2000 one?
That wag was Correa, I think.
…the 2004 one (Ohio).
What was the 1946 one?
There was also a silent coup in 1974.
I’ve never (at least up to now) seen it suggested that the Republican landslide in the 1946 congressional elections was somehow illegitimate.
If you haven’t read it yet, please do so: Confessions of An Economic Hitman By JOhn Perkins. And if you go to Democracynow from yesterday, you’ll see Correa state that the U.S. Embassy was paying several Police precincts and policeman for it’s own purposes and that was one reason that EC raised police salaries.
It might also be useful for you to know that of all S. American countries, Ecuador has had the greatest improvement in reducing inequality wealth wise.
AND I’m talking(writing) from having friends who live there and was going to retire there before the financial collapse and am burdened with being a very analytical person.
*gah*; EC has many problems; one of which is gringo free marketeers pushing naive gringos into situations they are not prepared for nor really know much about.
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Teddy; in my post at 47, I neither disparaged anyone, nor did I personally attack anyone.
If you thought I did that in that post, then i respectfully suggest that you have a serious cognition problem.
You mean this one:
I thought Jane made the rules, and I’m not sure who the “elites” are.
I would hope that making direct, profane, personal attacks on people would disqualify you from that status.
Which, by the way, my post at 47 was in no way, that.
There is good media in the US and it is called Pacifica, but it is radio with no pictures. It is public radio but accepts no corporate money. They interview people all over the world and the programmers keep up with the leading stories of the day. As far as I can see people want everything free and do not want to support it. It exists in 5 cities and the programs are archived for 3 months. At the moment I am listening to Juan Cole discuss the Middle East.
Assange sez:
So Sweden decided that they were going to demand extradition immediately, before Assange got a chance to file with the ECHR, which would automatically delay extradition.
I’m a fan of Pacifica Radio, myself.
Conspirancy Laws can cover anything the Gubmit don’t like. See Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for example. too. also. Marcus Garvey
No, Boner, Son of Skullker bought land in Paraguay…Texaco in Ecuador.
Irony Lives…Agees 1st major CIA assignment was Ecuador. That was before Roldos’ was “plane crashed”…John Negroponte had just left the country….on his way to Panama to get Torrios’ mind right.
This appears to be a story on which little is really known.
The only facts are that the WikiLeaks submission system remains down, as it has for nearly two years. Sixteen Lulzsec persons are accused of attacks on PayPal, Mastercard and Visa, in support of Jullian and await trial and a possible jail sentence, and his supporters have lost their bail money. Jullian has refused to take a STD test, and refused all requests for a direct face to face interview with the folks from Sweden, offering only a Skype interview, or an interview “through the embassy”.
So we have guesses at everyone’s motivation – with suggestions that the US is trying to extradite Assange via Sweden, thus avoiding due process, using only its basic power via political interference; or there is a wider motive – and death to those that cause trouble – as with Che and Patrice Lumumba, the Prime Minister of the Congo; or this is just a sex case where Jullian is ashamed of giving women STD’s.
I wish Wikileaks had been working these last two years – but then I also wish the rich and corporate did not make a mockery of “democracy”. As far as I can tell, Jullian does not deserve this legal problem – and indeed, he appears to be a hero. It is up to the US to prove the situation is otherwise.
I wonder whatever happened to those block-buster revelations about Bank of America that Wikileaks/Assange had promised was on the way?
You gotta figure he’s got something up his sleeve, otherwise Obama would have taken him out with a drone already.
IMHO…the “media’ is not Gubmit propaganda…they have the same owners though…Transnational World, Inc. TWInc
The Golden Rule, 2.0 is Them that’s got the Gold…Rule!
Try to remember…U.S. Americans are due due…process and such as that!
That’s dirty politics, not a coup.
I won’t pretend that I read every word of your three links, but I didn’t see the words “coup” or “stolen election” anywhere. And the third of your links, about Truman’s own loyalty order, had to do with something that took place in 1947, not 1946.
Perhaps it would be best if we preceded to argue about something else.
Sounds like a face to face is totally acceptable to JA, just not one in Swedish custody.
An embassy vehicle could carry Assange to Correa’s own waiting plane, yes?
You raise a good point about the BOA threat.
Drone-bama also doesn’t want to disturb his already fragile election run, I would think, already residing in deep sh*t over civilian drone murders and NDAA martial law with a broad range of American voters.
A broad range of us in here are repelled by Drone-Bama. I’m not sure I’d want to see poll numbers for how the majority of Americans feel about unchecked drone strikes, however.
As mentioned up thread, those files were taken from Assange by a former colleague at Wikileaks.
Not a knock on you, tanbark. Just noting for the record that Jane is in full accord with elites everywhere — she has the gold, so she makes the rules for everyone, and employs henchmen to enforce them. Just like the real world.
Thanks, Kevin, for this analysis, as always. One more omission in the media coverage is that any progressive who has been paying attention would choose Ecuador for asylum without thinking twice. A quick glance through their new constitution, adopted in 2008, will give you some idea why it’s quite an interesting place right now: http://pdba.georgetown.edu/Constitutions/Ecuador/english08.htm
For starters, it’s the first country to give rights to nature. Then, for instance, while we’re still engaged in debates about birth control, birth control is free to everyone, with individual choice as to method, in Ecuador. For a little taste of what’s been happening in Ecuador, watch the movie Crude: this case against Chevron captures the spirit of Ecuador. For quite a long while, Ecuador, as anyone there will freely tell you, was “run from the American embassy.” They are very much celebrating their freedom from that condition. There’s plenty of work left to do in Ecuador, but especially because of the coaliton among their large indigenous populations, they are at least moving in the right direction. There’s tension, but they seem to embrace that tension, honoring conflict, the first step to making progress.
Not to mention the sheer beauty — the coast, the Andes, those volcanoes, the Amazonian jungle. The cultures are as diverse as the geography. There’s a lot packed into a small space.
I was in Ecuador at the beginning of this year and have considered packing up and moving there every day since I returned to the US. I think Assange could settle in nicely there. Maybe we’ll be neighbors?
Lovely post, Entendre. And you may have put some ideas in my head as well.
Interesting stuff.
As long as we’re doing a country profile, there’s also the rather topical feature of their national finances. They’re the poster-boy/girl for successful bond defaults. They managed to default, clean up any legal issues, and gain access to the international debt markets, all while forcing the Banks to take a huge hit. Just beautifully executed. And a nice example being carefully studied by Greece, Spain, etc etc…
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/05/29/lessons-from-ecuadors-bond-default/
In the past few days, I’ve considered what it might be like to live in Ecuador. I think being with a population of people and a government that often favored humanity over global capitalism and militarism would be pretty great.
Assange lawyer Michael Ratner on RT last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwF9P45-iOg
Ratner cites case of guy who spent 15 years in an Embassy because host country did not allow passange out of the country. So there *is* a precident for arrest if Assange steps off embassy grounds.
Worst NYTimes article in years? Considering how many bad articles there have been, that’s highly damning.
Of course, constitutions and laws can be changed –or ignored as the are so often in the US, and the US does luv to make “regime” change in any country which stands in its way or gets under its skin (metaphorically).
Ellsberg would still be in prison, perhaps having died after being put in supermax solitary, had he done under Obama what he did under Nixon.
Seems to me the US is establishing a new concept of territorial sovereignty: We can do whatever we want to you, little pip squeak nations, whenever and however we choose to do to.
We will loose black op squads if we think we can get away with it, we will drone surveil and drone bomb, if we can gin up some pretext for including you in the War on Terra, we well inflict sanctions to destroy your economy. We will invade in “hot pursuit” of any terrist or for whatever reason we can get away with, and that’s lots so far. We will cyber attack whatever we want, then brag about it.
However, it is the law of hegemony that you all cannot do that to the USA.
Capiche?
Enter new term into the dialogue, soon to enter the law. Information terrorism. Jeebus.
Wow.
Joe Biden already labeled Assange a “cyber terrorist” when WikiLeaks released the Iraq invasion and occupation files. Newt is late to the party, and wrong, as usual. The real information terrorists are the propaganda outlets known as the MSM. Their specialty is the trifecta of misinformation, disinformation, and distraction.
Exactly.
There is a big difference between cyber terrorist and information terrorist, though.
This video is a compilation of US officials calling for the death of Assange. It’s a must see.
Via @exiledsurfer, here is an interesting link about the requirments for seeking asylum.
If Ecuador uses one of their C-130 aircraft, they can drive the car directly in to the aircraft without his getting out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_C-130_Hercules