11:45 PM EST That is all for now. FDL’s live blog on Assange’s asylum request decision will resume just as Ecuador announces a decision.
I’ll refrain from speculating. There won’t be any glib comments as I sign off for the night. I’ll just share this exchange that I had with a Sky News correspondent earlier today:

That is how astounding this all happens to be. First, the correspondent thought the Foreign Minister of Ecuador had to be exaggerating or engaging in hype. Then, he was shown the letter with the threat.

Now, he was surprised. How could the UK not respect the embassy’s sovereignty? How could it even suggest that it might not consider respecting the embassy without seeming incredibly overbearing?
The decision will be announced at 7 am Ecuador Time.
11:40 PM EST Ecuadorians gather outside UK embassy in Ecuador to protest British intimidation ahead of decision.
11:20 PM EST Exceptional report from Philip Dorling for the Sydney Morning Herald on mounting tensions around Assange’s asylum request. Includes details on Australia’s role. The country has kept itself from getting too involved.
11:10 PM EST Late night humor:



10:55 PM EST Australian National University’s Don Rothwell, a Australian international law expert, calls the threat from UK “extraordinary and without precedent in modern history.”
“It highlights how serious the United Kingdom government is about extraditing Assange to Sweden where he is wanted for questioning over sexual assault,” Professor Rothwell said in a statement.
“If the United Kingdom revoked the Embassy’s diplomatic protection and entered the Embassy to arrest Assange, Ecuador could rightly view this as a significant violation of international law which may find its way before an international court.”
10:50 PM EST A British Foreign Office spokesperson says, “Under British law we can give them a week’s notice before entering the premises and the embassy will no longer have diplomatic protection. But that decision has not yet been taken. We are not going to do this overnight. We want to stress that we want a diplomatically agreeable solution.”
10:45 PM EST WikiLeaks’ full statement on intimidation from the UK government:
In a communication this morning to the government of Ecuador, the UK threatened to forcefully enter the Ecuadorian embassy in London and arrest Julian Assange.
The UK claims the power to do so under the Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act 1987.
This claim is without basis.
By midnight, two hours prior to the time of this announcement, the embassy had been surrounded by police, in a menacing show of force.
Any transgression against the sanctity of the embassy is a unilateral and shameful act, and a violation of the Vienna Convention, which protects embassies worldwide.
This threat is designed to preempt Ecuador’s imminent decision on whether it will grant Julian Assange political asylum, and to bully Ecuador into a decision that is agreeable to the United Kingdom and its allies.
WikiLeaks condemns in the strongest possible terms the UK’s resort to intimidation.
A threat of this nature is a hostile and extreme act, which is not proportionate to the circumstances, and an unprecedented assault on the rights of asylum seekers worldwide.
We draw attention to the fact that the United Nations General Assembly has unanimously declared in Resolution 2312 (1967) that
“the grant of asylum. . . is a peaceful and humanitarian act and that, as such, it cannot be regarded as unfriendly by any other State.”
Pursuant to this resolution, a decision to grant asylum cannot be construed by another State as an unfriendly act. Neither can there be diplomatic consequences for granting asylum.
We remind the public that these extraordinary actions are being taken to detain a man who has not been charged with any crime in any country.
WikiLeaks joins the Government of Ecuador in urging the UK to resolve this situation according to peaceful norms of conduct.
We further urge the UK government to show restraint, and to consider the dire ramifications of any violation of the elementary norms of international law.
We ask that the UK respect Ecuador’s sovereign right to deliver a decision of its own making on Julian Assange’s asylum bid.
Noting that Ecuador has called for emergency summits of OAS and UNASUR in response to this development, WikiLeaks asks those bodies to support Ecuador’s rights in this matter, and to oppose any attempts to coerce a decision.
We note with interest that this development coincides with the UK Secretary of State William Hague’s assumption of executive responsibilities during the vacation of the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister.
Mr Hague’s department, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, has overseen the negotiations to date with Ecuador in the matter of Mr Assange’s asylum bid.
If Mr Hague has, as would be expected, approved this decision, WikiLeaks calls for his immediate resignation.
9:50 PM EST This is a photo from outside the embassy just after 2:30 am (London). It was taken by @odotm.

@Odotm was about to leave but police movements started to occur on the side of the embassy. Now @Odotm reports “two police vans at side exit of Ecuadorean embassy behind police tape, two police van on the road. Four in total.” (Photo) But, police claim nothing will happen tonight.
9:45 PM EST New livestream from outside the Ecuador embassy. Albury is now using Ustream, not Bambuser.
9:37 PM EST Bambuser has reportedly sustained a distributed denial of service (DDoS) from AntiLeaks, the hacker group that allegedly consists of young Americans that are not from any government agencies (their claim). They attacked WikiLeaks for a week recently and forced the media organization to make website upgrades.

Will the FBI investigate this attack on Bambuser? It allegedly is coming from young people in the US. Will they?
9:20 PM EST There is no “raid.” People continue to use this word on Twitter when it has not happened. Police entered a side entrance according to livestreamer James Albury, who is at the Ecuador embassy, reported:

He added he would not call it a “raid.” The police went into a side entrance that he did not think was sovereign property of Ecuador.
9:00 PM EST Guatemalan-based writer Renata Avila has some insightful tweets on the coercion the UK appears to be engaged in against Ecuador.

Avila also tweets:

They definitely should, but so far, as Mark Weisbrot of the Center for Economic Policy & Research has pointed out, human rights groups have chosen not to speak out on behalf of Assange and instead fabricate this idea that Ecuador is a country with one of the most repressive climates for the press.

Also a provocative tweet, one worth keeping in mind as the US government makes statements about what the UK government should or should not do. (Though the government is likely to be pretty silent on this affair—as silent as they can be so it does not look like they are pulling any strings behind the scenes.)
8:53 PM EST This post up at Vanity Fair reveals the character of the US pundit class in America. (1) The author snidely characterizes Assange as a “wraithlike provocateur.” (2) It opens with Mazel tov. (3) It has an incredibly glib concluding sentence: “Why are space and time so obviously conspiring against WikiLeaks? Dimensions are in the tank for corporate fascism.” (4) The thrust of the post trivializes the asylum request story. Its author may think satire is taking place but the author is really engaged in self-parody. (5) It tells readers nothing about what just happened between Ecuador and the UK. In fact, it reports on a Guardian story from yesterday that Ecuador President Rafael Correa soundly denied and called “rumor.”
But, don’t expect the more established US media outlets to promote insightful discussion of the legal or international relations issues created by this request and the threat that the UK made against Ecuador. You’ll have to turn to an Internet news site like Firedoglake to get a serious consideration (or some other alternative/independent news source). These outlets with far more resources than Firedoglake are not going to put them to proper use and give you mature and comprehensive reporting. They’d rather push hokey infotainment like this.
8:25 PM EST Carl Gardner, whose Twitter account says he is a barrister, former government lawyer, writer, legal commentator and author of the Head of Legal blog, has a post on whether the United Kingdom can really withdraw the Ecuador embassy’s diplomatic status. It is recommended reading, especially because it is a sober assessment.
They can withdraw recognition but section 1(4) of the UK Diplomatic & Consular Premises Act of 1987 says, “The Secretary of State shall only give or withdraw consent or withdraw acceptance if he is satisfied that to do so is permissible under international law.” When withdrawing consent, the “minister”:
shall have regard to all material considerations, and in particular, but without prejudice to the generality of this subsection—
(a) to the safety of the public;
(b) to national security; and
(c) to town and country planning.
Gardner comments:
The “compliance with international law” requirement may present a problem, since article 21 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations requires the UK to facilitate the acquisition by Ecuador of premises necessary for its mission, or assist it in obtaining accommodation. It’s not obvious this allows the UK to just de-recognise the current premises without helping arrange something new.
Section 1(5) is interesting because, in spite of the way the drafting clearly intends to preserve ministers’ ability to take account of anything they think relevant, I’ve no doubt lawyers for Ecuador could argue that the list of three particular concerns colours the scope of ministers’ considerations, the result being that only some particular difficulty relating to safety or to the premises themselves could justify withdrawal.
More importantly, they could argue that Assange’s presence in the embassy and Ecuador’s conduct in sheltering him is not a material consideration; and that since that clearly lay behind the withdrawal, ministers would in deciding to withdraw consent, have taken into account an irrelevant factor.
In addition, there’d be a potentially strong argument to be made that ministers had exercised their power for an improper purpose not intended by Parliament when it enacted the 1987 legislation – their desire to arrest Julian Assange.
8:20 PM EST Be wary of reports on a police “raid” happening already. All images or video have shown is police milling about on steps in front of the embassy entrance. The Sydney Morning Herald published an article with a headline on a raid but this is hysterical disinformation. There is no proof in the article at all. The only sentence on the so-called raid is, “BREAKING NEWS: Police have reportedly entered the Ecuadorian embassy in London where Australian WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange is holed up after his request for political asylum.” According to whom? A worried WikiLeaks supporter who tweeted he thought this was happening?
8:12 PM EST Jennifer Robinson, a lawyer who has represented Assange, draws attention to the Crown Prosecution Service’s (CPS) guidelines on “Diplomatic Immunity and Diplomatic Premises.”
The immunities granted to diplomatic staff, and their families, are set out in the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations (“VCDR”) (and the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations 1963 – CRA 1968) to which the United Kingdom is a party. The relevant provisions of the Convention are applied in the UK by the Diplomatic Privileges Act 1964 (“DPA 1964″), section 2.
Diplomatic immunity in the UK is conferred on all entitled members of a foreign mission (and entitled family members forming part of their household, provided they are not nationals of the UK) who have been notified to, and accepted by, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) as performing a diplomatic function. Immunity is dependent on rank, and ranges from immunity from criminal and civil and administrative jurisdiction to immunity for official acts only…
And:
…While diplomatic premises in the UK are part of UK territory, they are inviolable and may not be entered without the consent of the Ambassador or Head of Mission. (See DPA 1964 section 2(1) and schedule 3.) Any offences committed in diplomatic premises in the UK are triable under the ordinary principles of English law, subject to the principles of diplomatic immunity for those who have it. Those who do not have this status (whatever their nationality) can be prosecuted as normal, as for example happened in the case of the terrorists who seized the Iranian embassy in London in 1980.
8:02 PM EST Here is a livestream of the current scene outside the embassy.
8:00 PM EST Over the past couple hours, there have been reports of Metropolitan Police increasing their presence in the area surrounding the Ecuador embassy in London.
Occupy London tweets this photo of a police van. The photo shows police standing at an entrance to the embassy. They also report that pizza has just been delivered to the embassy from Domino’s.

Original Post
In the late afternoon, Ecuador foreign minister Ricardo Patino made a stunning allegation during a press conference in Ecuador. He claimed the British government had threatened Ecuador over WikiLeaks founder & editor-in-chief Julian Assange, who has sought political asylum from the country and been holed up in the embassy for over fifty days.
The Ecuador government released a letter containing this “threat.” The letter suggested that under the UK Diplomatic & Consular Premises Act of 1987 it could revoke the diplomatic immunity that the Ecuador embassy in London enjoys. This would make it possible for UK authorities to storm the embassy and force Ecuador to hand over Assange. To this, Patino declared, “We’re not a British colony. UK threat to storm embassy would be hostile and force us to respond.”
The UK government said in response to this allegation, “We have an obligation to extradite Mr Assange and it is only right that we give Ecuador the full picture,” and, “We are still committed to reaching a mutually acceptable solution.” The Ecuador embassy in London issued a statement, “We are deeply shocked by British government’s threats against the sovereignty of the Ecuadorian Embassy and their suggestion that they may forcibly enter the embassy.” And, “Instead of threatening violence against the Ecuadorian Embassy the British Government should use its energy to find a peaceful resolution to this situation which we are aiming to achieve.”
The decision appears to be destined to produce a major diplomatic crisis. Ecuador apparently called for an emergency meeting of the Organization of American States (OAS) and Union of South American Nations to discuss this “threat” against a Latin American country’s embassy by the UK.
A full report on this development that I put together can be read here.
Firedoglake will now be live blogging developments related to the coming announcement, which is expected to be presented at 7 am Ecuador time. That means the announcement can be expected about 8 am ET/7 am CT (United States).
All updates will appear at the top of this post.



121 Comments

Keep us up all night will you, Kevin?
A rally is being reported outside the UK embassy in Quito. 7:17 pm there.
Like I just said at another post, it is time for all the little South American countries to surround the British embassies and wait to see what the UK does.
If they invade the Embassy in the UK, “invade” the British embassies.
Better yet, evict the residents and throw their stuff in the street!
(I am NOT advocating harming anyone).
This might be the start of World War III & IV
The red police vans are the ones with armaments in them, right?
Dang, I was hoping the Ecuadoreans would have smuggled him out when the Olympics were still going on.
Sky News: “To Sweden, where he faces charges in two sexual assault cases….”
Update from the UK:
Wikileaks press team sent a tweet at the start of the police build-up ourtside the Ecuador Embassy in London about 4+ hours ago: “In light of the Ecuadorian FM’s remarks, perhaps supporters should occupy the area around Ecuador’s Embassy in London. #Assange #WikiLeaks”
A Facebook event was set up https://www.facebook.com/events/317594748337484/317627175000908/?notif_t=plan_mall_activity and is at 170+ within an hour or so
One of the livestreamers (previously of Occupy London Stock Exchange) is down there streaming live – though sometimes down due to high demand and low battery{ www.http://bambuser.com/channel/alburyj
You can follow the livestreamer James @alburyj on Twitter
Assange attorney Jen Robinson reporting (16 minutes ago) that UK has not withdrawn Ecuador embassy status. Yet.
Hi, Tina! I post here as Edward Teller. Glad you are helping on this live blog.
phil munger in Alaska.
Your calm and reasoned reporting is very much appreciated, Kevin.
One hopes that saner heads may prevail and end this contrived and ludicrous “confrontation”.
ANY hasty and ill-considered actions, now, will have unforeseen and unforeseeable long-lasting consequence.
DW
anonymous on twitter re problems with live video from the embassy:
Your contributions are very much appreciated, tinalouise.
DW
I would feel a bit uncomfortable being a British staffer in that embassy right now.
If Britain would do something so stupid as to storm the embassy, I would not be surprised to see some violence directed against its diplomatic facilities in Latin America.
I don’t see how this would fit any of those even if the act didn’t violate international law. Far from Assange being a threat to the public, he’s trying to get out of the UK but is being blocked from that, so that doesn’t work. This isn’t a matter of national security as the purported reason for this is over a criminal – not a national security – matter in another country…even if everything alleged of Assange was true, a rapist isn’t a national security threat. Finally this has nothing to do with building a highway through where the embassy is.
I wish MarkFromIreland was awake and online right now — he’s a lawyer himself.
Am I correct in assuming that Julian Assange has not been charged with any formal charges in Sweden yet?
Isn’t this all because of a European warrant for him to be questioned in Sweden”?
And didn’t Sweden refuse to question him in Britain when asked to by Ecuador?
So isn’t this all just the wrestling and misuse of the law by dark, unnamed actors, at this point??
My prayers are for/with Julian and his supporters.
TomThumb
Better yet, the 18 members of Latin American block in which Ecuador is a member should revoke diplomatic immunity and raid the British embassies and consulates in their nations. They could do this simply by producing an executive order from their head of state. After the revocation, confiscate their property, and let the diplomatic staff stay in their gulags for a while.
They simply cannot enact local legislation to get around to their obligations under the Vienna Convention.
It is about time British realize that it is a paper tiger. The Sun has indeed set in the British empire.
Oh, this is the Brits acting as Airstrip One for the Yanks — the sun set on the British Empire once World War II was done, and is now setting on the American Empire. I think that Ecuador should retaliate by expelling both the UK and US ambassadors, and perhaps the Swedish ones as well, to underline the point that this is ultimately about what the US wants and that the UK and Sweden are acting as the lapdogs of the US in this affair.
Tina Louise reporting on Twitter that live feed from Bambuser down and that their site is also down.
Assange atty Jen Robinson: “FM Patino says Ecuador will call urgent summit of OAS & UNASUR over British threat to embassy.”
Link
Good! The Brits apparently didn’t realize that Latin America hasn’t gone to bed yet.
From Imagist, 25 minutes ago –
Calls going out for alternate webcasting and site hosting. Fortunately there are at least 170 people outside the Embassy serving as witnesses even if the video can’t be restored.
Bambuser’s using Twitter to report the events — his latest news from four minutes ago:
Just so you know, Bambuser sez that aside from the two cops entering (apparently peacefully) the side door of the Embassy, nothing much has happened in the last hour — one of the police vans left, but without anyone but cops in it.
B’s working to get an alternative livestream set up since his Bambuser site got hosed, presumably by a DDoS attack.
““We’re not a British colony. UK threat to storm embassy would be hostile and force us to respond.””
Out-fucking-standing! A “mutually acceptable solution” my ass.
Domino’s? Gack.
I’m almost speechless. But the obvious response is for the British Left, whatever is left of it, to show up in force around the Ecuadorian Embassy and defend it. A couple of thousand people would be enough to force a stand-off and prevent the police from invading the embassy. There are precedents for this going back to the 18th century (Fox).
I never thought they would take recourse to force. This is a message to all of us. A kind of Chrystalnacht.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/alburyj
Live streaming now while other site is DDos’d
Another livestream:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
Kevin, you are providing the only information Americans are getting about this. I’m listening to Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell prattle on about the latest gossip in the presidential show campaign while I wonder if the entire system of world diplomacy is about to break down around an embassy in London.
I mean, the networks have recently shown us they have the resources to cover the most trivial events happening in London; why not apply some of those resources to something that makes a real difference?
It’s shocking. Thanks for the great work. I shall stay tuned.
Thank you Kevin and everyone contributing in comments.
Another livestream: http://www.livestream.com/occupylsx
Following on this stream:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
Thank you for putting my amazement into words about this juxtaposition of media feeds. Was just thinking the same thing.
@alburyj signed off to conserve battery
Yup, the livestream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/alburyj has signed off for now as well — the video currently up is from 49 minutes ago.
This is still live: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
Wikileaks tweets:
LS: officer will not deny police to arrest Assange.
LS: 3 people on top of Harrod’s (accross from embassy). Not clear who they are.
4467 people watching this stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
I hope that People in London are being alerted by their friends to get down to the Embassy. It is the middle of the night, but that is when the Bloombergs of the world like to send in the troops.
I’m watching the LSX Livestream…
http://wikileaks.org/Statement-on-UK-threat-to-storm.html
OccupyNewsNetwork livestreamer putting out near-constant calls for more people to come to the Embassy site (near the Knightsbridge tube station) as there are only 20 or so people out there right now to serve as witnesses:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
Has Twitter suddenly blown up for anyone else? Could be my bandwidth at fault.
Thank you.
Working ok for me at the moment.
Yes, hard not to be proud of my government’s response. They are talking to the UK like equals, not like some lapdog. This government we have really is different to anything we’ve had before.
They actually said this to the UK:
Pragmatically, of course I’m concerned about repercusions, especially from the US which will be the ones that carry real weight, but doing the right thing is paramount in my view.
LSX livestream about to recharge battery.
The Occupy News Network livestreamer had to shut down (needs to recharge battery), but http://www.livestream.com/occupylsx is still up.
They said 5 min ago that they would shut down in a few minutes to recharge…
Not the way it works. The second Assange sets foot on British soil he would be taken. He would have to do so to make any move to leave the country.
Thanks.
Per LSX livestreamer: Three police vans w/12 cops each currently in front of Embassy (regular police, not diplomatic police).
Rumor going around that Assange is no longer in the Embassy; LSX livestreamer trying to get more info. Possible ruse to make protesters go home so livestreaming stops?
Google Translate:
http://www.telegrafo.com.ec/index.php?option=com_zoo&task=item&item_id=50163&Itemid=2
LSX livestreamer trying to get policemen to tell him what are his orders WRT the Embassy. Officer said he was here to keep the peace, LSX asked why they’d need three vans with 12 cops each to ride herd over a small gathering of less than 20 protesters. Cop blew him off with a non-answer.
Thursday at 9 PM? That’s almost twenty-four hours from now. Will the Brits hold off for that long?
If the UK has to wait 7 days to revoke Embassy status for Ecuador…
It’s 4 AM in the UK right now — the Tube opens in two hours. Will more people show up by then?
http://bambuser.com/v/2905015
I’ve been thinking about that… Couldn’t a helicopter land on the roof of the embassy and fly him out? That worked for us in Saigon.
I almost wonder if the Brits were hoping to spook the Embassy folks into doing something stupid. So far, they’ve failed to do so.
Gotta go for now. Keep watching on http://www.livestream.com/occupylsx
You, and all of us, certainly should be proud of your government. Much of Latin America should be proud of its recent past.
Hopefully that pride will be confirmed tomorrow.
It *would* be phenomenally short-sighted and thick-skulled for UK to enter the embassy to arrest Assange.
As long as he’s using embassy property, he’s covered by that – like using the ambassador’s limo to get to the airport…the only problem would be going from the vehicle to inside the aircraft itself where that would seem to be threat of being on non-embassy property for a few feet, but a really close parking job could keep Assange all on Embassy property the whole way.
LS: Police bus pulled up. Aaaannnd, it leaves.
Somebody gamed it out a while back. The only way to pull it off would be for Ecuador to formally make Assange their representative to the UN with credentials. And even that was somewhat shaky, but I can’t remember why.
A reminder about what Obama said about the Iran government when Iranians stormed the British Embassy – somehow I doubt Obama will stand up for Assange:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/29/us-iran-britain-embassy-usa-idUSTRE7AS1SV20111129
No helicopters, then?
There’s a helipad across the street from the Ecuadorian Embassy. On top of …. Harrod’s
Nothing British could be so exciting, I think.
I do not think vehicles themselves have the immunity you think they do – that is attendant to the occupants much more than the vehicle itself.
Heh, helicopter has gotta land somewhere, can’t fly to Ecuador!
LOL, that’s perfect! Julian will just nip out of the embassy, do bit of shopping, and be whisked off to Ecuador before the bobbies are any the wiser ; )
In flight refueling courtesy of the Ecuadoran Air Force. They do have an air force, don’t they?
Pshaw, have you never seen a James Bond movie? Where’s Q when you need him?!? ; )
I wish I was in London right now…
I can honestly say that I have *never* seen a James Bond film, at least not more than a few minutes at a time.
Per the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations:
“3.The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other property thereon and the means of transport of the mission shall be immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution.”
http://www.corpsdiplomatique.cd/VIENNA_CONVENTION_1961_ON_DIPLOMATIC_RELATIONS.pdf
Marriage has done wonders for expanding my cultural horizons ; ) I am partial to Q in those films. Sean Connery isn’t so bad either ; )
from twitter:
Exactly what’s to be expected, I guess.
Kevin/mods, looks like there may be a typo… says Ecuador will announce decision at 7 a.m. in original post, but in the 11:45 p.m. update up top it says 7 p.m. Ecuador time. Would appreciate a clarification.
Thanks for the liveblog Kevin. Riveting stuff. It’s unbelievably shocking that the UK would even think to threaten an embassy. Any embassy. Normally the worst you do is send home the ambassador. We live in perilous times when governments no longer respect the rule of law.
Racist, imperialist cartoons, designed to give denizens of the shriveled empire that once covered the earth a frisson of their old power; have helped to fuse the notion of an Anglo alliance in tiny American minds. Went from silly Cold War antics to inventing ever sillier villains; Mike Myers got it about right, the first time.
I forgive Sean Connery for killing all those endlessly expendable people of color, though. After all, you look out on the world from a narrow-enough perspective, there seem to be billions of them.
Now Austin Powers I *have* seen and enjoyed.
Having lived in DC for many years I can assure you that the vehicles themselves are quite immune from any law-enforcement activities (towing when parked incorrectly or unlawfully, ticketed for parking infractions, etc) despite the absence of occupants. The vehicles are immune from the local law, as are any occupants.
I don’t have legal guidance to assert this, simply based on my wide experience inside of, outside of, and frustrated with neighboring embassy vehicles
Yes, this.
Even if Ecuador has a refueling airplane (don’t know) that’s clearly a fantasy: A chopper flying across the Atlantic, and getting refueled periodically.
Also, I don’t think Ecuador will employ antics and tricks. The sensible course of action would be to do things diplomatically, respecting international law and conventions, asking for guidance/arbitration from UN orgs, and pursuing legal action as necessary.
Good point.
Thanks all for keeping the Klieg lights on London!
Two stories, intertwined again by their essentially un-telling in Elite Media.
Can’t remember what the deal was, but I read an explication of this under British adoption of protocols that made it not feasible. Maybe it was no cars on airport tarmacs. I dunno. But by my understanding that just ain’t happening. I also highly doubt Ecuador is going to really jerk the Brits off that hard over Assange.
If only we had those jetpacks they promised us as kids….
Jeeze. Per Bambuser, only 7 activists on site right now. How discouraging. However, it is 5:20 a.m.
Bambuser battery fading, so he’s signing off LS.
Good time for me to turn in… Nite, all.
Can be denied flying in british airspace
I predict Ecuador will do everything they can to play this out sensibly. I don’t think the Ecuadorean embassy has an inside garage, so getting Assange into a vehicle inside the building is impossible. That limits what they can do to get him out of the UK. So they are stuck with keeping him there and using that position to enhance Correa’s image as a supporter of press freedom, asylum and similar issues, while forcing the UK into making statements similar to those of this week.
The biggest growing dread over this in the UK government will be a growth of support for Assange and the Ecuadorean siege in Buenos Aires. The junta that invaded the Falklands and South Georgia in 1982 is not the current government of Argentina. Watch the Argentine press on Thursday for any op-eds about the statement by Ecuadorean FM Ricardo Patino, “We want to make this absolutely clear. We are not a colony of Britain and colonial times have finished.“
That’s gonna piss off the Sloane Rangers.
Juan Cole, taking a break from supporting interventions, comes out for Assange, and belittles what the UK government is doing re the Ecuadorian embassy:
Fuck you, Mark White. Exactly which experienced journalists would have such thoughtless, apologetic deference to the ethical conduct of law enforcement? It is because of “professional,” fawning, naive, status quo lap dogs who do not deviate from acceptable inquiry such as yourself that it is so hard to get honest, critical news. Or perhaps you found this all something to laugh at, as is your wont? By comparison, Gosztola’s journalistic efforts make you look like a brown nosing student doing fluff pieces on the school football team, especially when it comes to law enforcement.
You’ll make it up to Gosztola how?
Juan Cole, taking a break from supporting interventions…
Now, now, ET, that wasn’t very nice, despite, how true it is…!
My apologies. I was initially serious about the helicopter solution (which does not need to fly the whole route, just as the helicopters in Saigon did not fly from Vietnam to the U.S.), but then from bmaz’ lack of initial response, Kelly’s response, yellowsnapdragon’s response, and the late hour, I started joking around.
It is a very serious matter, however, and it appears that creative solutions, including international partners who would support Ecuador in whatever they may choose to do, will clearly be required.
True. That is what makes it infeasible. But if pressed, how far is the UK willing to go to violate diplomatic immunity? Since they do the bidding of the US, I suspect the UK will be willing to ignore international law, just as we have done. But then, what will be the international response? How safe will British diplomats be wherever they reside? I don’t understand the obsession with Assange. It is ultimately bound to be counter-productive.
Exactly. Airstrip One.
This has the potential to bring down Cameron’s government.
Ayatollah Cameron. Funny. That. Go Juan!