
Federal courthouse in Eastern District of Virginia where grand jury investigating WikiLeaks has convened | Flickr photo by dctim1
How do supporters of WikiLeaks founder and editor-in-chief Julian Assange make the leap that he is more likely to be extradited to the United States from Sweden than the United Kingdom? That is a common question and, certainly, a key question for anyone who remains skeptical of whether Assange should have been granted asylum by Ecuador.
The answer is Sweden is pursuing a legal case against Assange, a case that has not been pursued entirely in a reasonable manner. For example, Mark Weisbrot noted in his Guardian article yesterday former Stockholm chief district prosecutor Sven-Erik Alhem “made it clear that the Swedish government had no legitimate reason to seek Assange’s extradition when he testified that the decision of the Swedish government to extradite Assange is ‘unreasonable and unprofessional, as well as unfair and disproportionate,’ because he could be easily questioned in the UK.” If the US government were to announce a request to extradite Assange, it would be interfering with an astounding legal matter that Swedish authorities would have to decide whether to suspend or not.
Another bigger question is why Assange continues to claim the US has plans or intentions to “persecute” or, to use a term that is more neutral, prosecute him. Snide commentators, sneering correspondents, and elite-minded former government officials discount any suggestion that the US might extradite Assange from Sweden. They do not even bother to take into account the existence of an empaneled grand jury in Alexandria, Virginia, in the Eastern District that is investigating anyone who can be connected to the WikiLeaks organization.
Now, The Saturday Age, based in Australia, has published a report that features some critical details on the United States government’s plans for Assange. It describes Australian Foreign Affairs Department documents that were obtained under freedom of information laws and show the Australian diplomatic service “takes seriously the likelihood that Assange will eventually be extradited to the US on charges arising from WikiLeaks obtaining leaked US military and diplomatic documents.” Australia’s ambassador to the US Kim Beazley sought “high-level US advice on ‘the direction and likely outcome of the investigation’ and “reiterated’ an Australian government request for “early advice of any decision to indict or seek extradition” of Assange.
The diplomatic cables identify “a wide range of criminal charges the US could bring against Assange, including espionage, conspiracy, unlawful access to classified information and computer fraud.” They indicate “Australian diplomats expect that any charges against Assange would be carefully drawn in an effort to avoid conflict with the First Amendment free speech provisions of the US constitution.”
Additionally, Australian diplomats have apparently been informed of “several connections between Manning and WikiLeaks,” which prosecutors have uncovered that would form the “basis of a conspiracy charge.” The diplomats have found any investigation would “target” the “founders, owners or managers of WikiLeaks” for espionage.
The diplomats were not able to confirm whether the “sealed indictment” Stratfor had was authentic, but suggested what the US private intelligence company might have had in possession was a “draft indictment used by prosecutors to ‘game out’ possible charges.”
Center for Constitutional Rights attorney Michael Ratner, who is a member of the WikiLeaks legal team, considers the details to be “pretty extraordinary revelations.” It shows Australian government officials to be “hypocrites if not liars” because they have claimed “they don’t know anything about a US prosecution or extradition.”
It affirms Assange’s fears, along with what Ratner has been saying all along, by showing the US is seeking Assange’s prosecution and extradition.
“It confirms that the seeking of asylum is about the prosecution he is faced with in the United States,” Ratner told Firedoglake. “It has nothing to do with Sweden. This is about the US persecuting him and going after him for extradition and this confirms in cables that the Australian government knew about it, dissembled about it and is not protecting one of its own citizens.”
Yesterday, in a typical demonstration of the imperial delusions which the United States government operates under, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland was asked during a press briefing whether Assange “could face persecution” if he “was to come to the United States under whatever circumstances.” The reporter asked, “Do you find that that’s a credible argument? Does anyone face unwarranted or illegal government persecution in the United States?”
Nuland reflexively said no. When the reporter inquiringly said, “No?” She bluntly said “no” again. As the reporter continued to press her, she dropped a major hint, “If you’re asking me whether there was any intention to persecute rather than prosecute, the answer is no. Okay?”
The reporter caught her and said, “Okay. Well, wait. Well, hold on a second. So you’re saying that he would face prosecution?” To which she said, “We were in a situation where he was not headed to the United States; he was headed elsewhere.” But that doesn’t mean he would not, at some point in the future, be reeled into the clutches of US justice (which, according to Nuland, would never in present-day America “persecute” anyone—women, immigrants, people of color, gays, Muslims, etc—no one).
The new information uncovered by an Australian media organization makes it highly doubtful that the issue of asylum is only a matter between Ecuador, Sweden and the UK.
“The US is clearly the hand that’s behind this,” Ratner suggested. “There’s no doubt about it in my mind. And this confirms that they’ve been after him, according to these cables, for a year and a half if not more.” Ratner said it is “utterly bogus” to say “the US isn’t involved.”
What is occurring in the shadows between Australia, Ecuador, Sweden, the UK and the US is the kind of activity which Pfc. Bradley Manning likely sought to reveal when he allegedly released US diplomatic cables to WikiLeaks. Based on the letter Ecuador was given that threatened the country’s London embassy with a possible invasion if Assange was not handed over for extradition to Sweden, it is evident the kind of coercion and underhanded diplomacy WikiLeaks uncovered continues to occur. Bullying or pressure is intended to prevent Assange from reaching Ecuador.
The grand jury is not some conjured conspiracy theory made up to suit Assange’s desire to escape legal processes in Sweden. It exists. It is part of a wide criminal investigation into Assange and others connected to WikiLeaks that is intended to produce indictments that could be acted upon. The US Justice Department would not be investing resources into a case like this if it had no intention of eventually putting people on trial in the United States.
Furthermore, the US government is in the midst of a court martial against Manning. They understand Manning must be convicted successfully before they can bring in Assange. Sweden’s desire to question Assange over sexual allegations is just the sideshow that must continue to unfold to keep Assange in a country whose government will cooperate with an extradition request when the US government is finally ready to make a meticulously prepared prosecution public to the world. Failing to ensure the UK maintains their position and does not allow Assange safe passage to Ecuador is necessary to preventing complications that would likely be experienced if he was in Ecuador when it came time to exact what Assange’s lawyer on matters related to asylum, Baltasar Garzon, has called “political revenge.”



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Invaders, occupiers, murderers, torturers, extortionists, kidnappers, resource-grabbing thieves, rogues, dictatorial regime supporting, democratically elected president assassinating bullies wouldn’t lie.
Would they?
Nice summary of the criminality of our alleged democracy.
Kevin, thank you for your reporting on these issues. It is much appreciated.
I’m going to second what shenebraskan has to say.
Spot on, hotdog!
Thank you, Kevin.
DW
The grand jury case number involving Assange is 11-3/10GJ3793/11-937. Apparently, the 3793 part stands for the statutes involving conspiracy to commit espionage.
Amazing. The Justice Department can wriggle around the first amendment, but cannot find any evidence of fraud on Wall St (including MK Global).
The US Gov just needs to come out and admit that lese-majesty is a crime and fraud by the
aristocracyprivileged is not.A president who is a constitutional scholar is an epithet. Instead of up-holding (pun intended) the constitution his administration appears determined to undermine it and wriggle around its provisions.
Sometimes paranoia is justified by the facts. Certainly, in this case, it is.
“If the president does it, it’s not illegal.”
/Nixon, to David Frost
Clearly, Obama has taken this as instructional rather than cautionary.
To acknowledge the outstanding journalistic efforts of Alexa O’Brien, here is what she has put together that should lead one to consider the State Department spokesperson’s statements to be even more bogus:
7 civilians being targeted by FBI for WikiLeaks grand jury including WikiLeaks founders, associates
WikiLeaks damage assessment author primary State Department liaison to FBI & Watch list
Transcript | US v. PFC Bradley Manning, Article 32 PreTrial, 12/17/11
Each link contains important nuggets of information on the State Department.
Follow her on Twitter @carwinb. She has been tweeting about the State Department’s role throughout the past day.
I’ll add it is tempting to correct someone who says, “Oh, you cover WikiLeaks,” and say, “No, I cover US government corruption. WikiLeaks is just what I focus on to make critical points.”
Superb rejoinder, Kevin … as it IS the truth.
DW
USG and media apparently think we should believe them instead of our lyin’ eyes. It is insulting and infuriating that those of us who are following the story are treated like conspiracy theorists.
Do you have a link or reference for that? It ought to be tweeted widely.
One reason why I voted for Obama in 2008 was that because he knew constitutional law (hell, he taught the subject), he would roll back the Bush administration’s attacks on the Constitution. Silly, silly me.
I agree, but let’s remove the Nixonian language:
In which case there is no rule of law, and the constitution is a worthless “scrap of paper”. I seem to remember some people revolting against that premise sometime around the late 1770s.
The first time “scrap of paper” was used resulted in a somewhat bloody set of wars.
Google “11-3/10GJ3793/11-937″
What I found really frightening in the Saturday Age article you linked to was this:
This tells me that Assange’s own government doesn’t care what happens to him, as long as they’re given advance notice–probably so they can have their canned response ready to publish immediately indicating that there is really “nothing we can do to help Mr. Assange”. Count on it.
Link is here. The case number is displayed at segment beginning at 33:35.
“…the imperial delusions which the United States government operates under…”
I wish they were delusions. Sweden!(?) Man that is a long arm. Is conspiracy theory like paranoia; if they really are out to get you it’s not paranoia?
I’m LMAO at Australia. What conflict with the First Ammendment? The First Ammendment has been repealed. Hasn’t it?
Thanks.
Corzine walks. Assange doomed.
Perfect summary of the Obanksta reign of terror.
You can prosecute some of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time …
Holder dropped this case on Monday cos it’s too time-consuming to sort through all the evidence.
Let’s stop all pretense there is any rule of law for the criminal elite in this country.
Save the U.S. taxpayers 28 billion dollars a year and close down the “Justice” Department.
They are parasites and tools of the criminal elite collecting government checks and doing nothing for them.
I wonder if Assange is still intending to speak tomorrow from the steps of the Ecuadorian Embassy. It doesn’t seem wise to get that ambiguously close to no man’s land. Maybe he should speak from well inside the doorway.
The UK doesn’t now seem likely to storm the place as long as Assange is behind the door, better yet out of sight in there. Still the UK is hellbent not to let him go to the airport under Ecuador’s cover. How legal that stance is, or isn’t, may not be operative.
So it seems they’ve drawn a line which even a diplomatic pouch (or footlocker?) won’t be allowed to cross. I think Assange will be holed up there a long time, which might be the PTB’s second choice among several.
Maybe Assange will return to hosting his show on RT from the embassy. That would be a nice stick in the eye of the PTB.
If the Ecuadoreans allow RT TV to continue producing his show from the embassy, I suppose Assange’s subject matter could be of enormous interest.
BTW, has RT TV covered the Pussy Riot story credibly? This is the only recent story I could find.
Beat me to it…
They have been reporting on it regularly since the incident, although it’s not a story I’ve paid much attention to, so I can’t speak to the credibility of the reporting.
sweden and the uk are working hard to extradite a man who is simply wanted for questioning and who has offered several times to accomodate sweden. Has there ever been such a flap and extradition in the past for a person not actually indicted for a crime? I remember the case of the British policewoman being shot and killed from the libyan embassy. Why that happened is a mystery. The killer was allowed to go back to libya by diplomatic immunity.
There is no doubt that the us govt wants JA and has no interest anymore in the Constitution. The only reason we are generally not disappeared by the govt is that we are too small in the scheme of things. BTW, tammanytiger @13, I thought that 0 would slow the charge toward more and more govt control, so I voted for him. I knew he would not reverse things but I thought our rush into fascism would slow down. Boy, I can’t believe how wrong I was.
If RT coverage of the Pussy Riot thing is anything like thier coverage of Syria, Libya, Serbia or thier coverage of any anti government protests in Russia,it is totally biased in favor of the Russian government position. RT exists to anoy the American gov., and produce Russian propaganda. I was into RT for a while, but the more I found out about it, the more disgusting it became.I’ve stoped wathcing it.
Yeah, I remember thinking O’s FISA decision during the campaign was bad, but I had no idea that every decision he makes would be along the same line.
Fuck Barack Obama.
As long as you know the bias, take it for what it’s worth. All sources should be used in conjunction with other sources to weed out facts.
A lot of RT’s reporting on issues in the US is really very good and can’t be found at the same quality elsewhere. Sadly Alyona is gone now.
IMO, too bad the USA was not as aggressive in wanting to see that all alleged rape perps were questioned when it came to US contractors. Too bad the USA is not so aggressive to see that all alleged rape perps are questioned in places like Africa or UAE. Everyone can see that things are screwy regarding the hunting of Assange. Prolly most national leaders in the world who sent incriminating cables or emails might still be scared a bit–and prolly want Hillary and Obama to make an example to harm those who believe sunshine is what will keep more people alive. Most people want the sunshine and don’t like or agree with those who try to conceal it.
And…I refuse to be intimidated by beltway types who say RT is commie. RT is no more propagandistic than the MSM or VOA, which is to say that *of course it is biased and manipulative*. Not directing anger at your comment in any way, just saying I like to watch and read RT for the perspective.
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I watched a lot of Alyona Minkovsky’s shows or segments, and some of Thom Hartman’s. Now Alyona has gone over to Huffington’s new niche. RT TV is as useful as any network. One needs to know its biases. MSNBC never covers Fukushima in depth, for instance (who does?) GE-designed reactors.
I just picked up Alexa O’Brien on twitter today.
RT is commie? Those beltway types are caught in a timewarp. It reflects the interests of the Russian government in the same way that VOA reflects the interests of the US government, PressTV reflects the interests of the Iranian government, and al Jazeera reflects the interests of the royal family of Qatar. If the subject is negative coverage about the government’s own actions, it is likely to be softpedaled to one degree or another, depending on how tightly the government holds the reins. If it is part of a government initiative, it is likely to be fluffed to one degree or another, depending on how tightly the government holds the reins. Governments differ in how strictly they control, and can increase or decrease control as a matter of policy. For example, al Jazeera’s enthusiastic coverage of the Arab Awakening apparently crossed a line in covering Qatar and Saudi Arabia–an being a little too honest about the way that the GCC was trying to ease out Yemen’s Saleh. So, the directing manager was relieved and a crown prince got the directing manager’s job.
The MSM (more properly the Wall Street Media) are different in that they don’t reflect the view of the US government unless it aligns with the views of the 1% who control the major private (and corporate) media corporations globally.
And then, there are the clearly political party media, like FoxNews in the US, who reflect not the government but the narrow interest of a political party. These are much more common outside the US.
It helps to know the interests of those who control the media and not jump to simple rules for analyzing or dismissing the reports. The most objective reporting is about items that the owners have no economic, political, or cultural interest in. And then sometimes, briefly, there are rogue reporters who report the truth regardless of management interests.
I know this is not an open thread, however I can tell there is nothing remotely “Beltway” about me (laughable), and I said nothing about “commies”.
Just let me ask you this. Do you follow whats going on in Syria, for example? If you do, and you dont think RT’s coverage is’nt completly biased toward Syria, your just not paying attention.
I don’t watch RT much, but I was impressed by Alyona’s understanding of the world situation and her ability to ask good questions of the guests. I gave up on hp when it was sold (I had been strongly trending away before that). Is Alyona able to operate freely or was this to end her career in the same way as Amanpour was remade?
One thing that is missing from the discussion is who are the other targets of this grang jury. It may be time for them to seek some haven before the roundup begins.
I appreciate RT’s perspective on Syria, actually. And yes, RT has a very clear bias against the opposition in Syria, as I’ve noted on the threads in the past. However, watching both RT and “western” sources, one can find more of the truth of the Syrian situation than shutting out the perspective of Assad’s side.
Not saying you are beltway or think RT is commie. I’ve heard MSM beltway commentators say RT is commie propaganda, so just sayin’.
Edit: for @39.
Cool.
O’s thesis was entitled “The Circumvention of Constitutional Law”. Once elected, he started implementing it.
Wikileaks has been livetweeting the special OAS meeting in response to UK’s threat against the Ecuador Embassy…
It’s been going on for an hour. Ack.
I’m not sure there were real Commies in Russia after Trotsky left, err… got kicked out. There haven’t been many overlaps in their interests with ours for a long time before or after, regardless. None of it has had to do with economic theory in recent decades. Maybe someone can dispute that, I’m all ears.
I think one difference nowadays may be that Putin, due to his background, understands the West a lot better than his predecessors. I would include even Andropov in that ignorant bunch, even though he was one of Putin’s forebearers at the KGB, as well as at the very very Top, and should have known better.
The result would be that propaganda from there would be more subtle nowadays and better tailored to the Western ear. Boy!, was it ever ham fisted in the past, and careless. I’m not suggesting that Putin isn’t a threat to his subjects or to us, just that he’s better attuned globally for his own benefit.
Live feed of the Organization of American States meeting on the British threats against Ecuador.
O rly?
Should have refreshed before I commented, eh….?
LS is in Spanish, isn’t it?
I figgered I wouldn’t be able to understand the livestream, so I’m watching the twitter feed instead.
OAS meeting on break now…
They were playing cheesy cocktail piano music a few minutes back. Not even Latin American sounding. More like a bar in Secaucus NJ.
Christ on His Throne! The US has left the community of nations.
The question then becomes, ysd, how many other nations will follow the US along the road to perdition?
At some point the USA will come to regret its too ready dismissal of the Rule of Law.
One only hopes that such a time will come when it will be “instructive” to those who deliberately sought that dismissal and the inevitable destruction and lawlessness which it invites.
The overweening hubris of the “leadership” of the US is almost beyond compare.
DW
By the article, not “has left,” but “never was” a part of that particular community.
A very interesting fact that I’m not sure I was aware of until now, or certainly had no reason to recall before now.
If the US does it, other nations will follow.
The problem that I see coming is that the US will take someone into their Embassy under asylum and then threaten war if the Embassy is breached by the host country.
They’re back in session. Pretty much the USA, Canada, Dominican Republic and Panama against the rest of the western hemisphere.
Uh, nope.
Just about to proceed to vote, but Nicaragua got the floor… Edit: Nicaragua added nothing of substance.
Certainly a likely scenario, ysd.
That “exceptionalism” thingie.
When coupled to the proclaimed right and power of the US to assassinate anyone, anywhere, anytime, the President wishes, without that due process thingie, it appears that a wild and wooly shoot-em-up, bang up time is in the offing.
Let’s all mosey down to the OK Corral and see what the Doc’s up to, shall we?
I reckon you’d best pack a six, ysd, ‘cuz we might have to stand our coughing grounds, what with them stars bucking all around and so forth.
Downright exciting times we is a livin’ and shucksin’ in … about what them orientals might call “interestin’”, seems like.
Better wear yore spurs and bring a chaw along … I heared that them embassy fellas ain’t gonna take kindly to no toffs a raidin’ and a hoopin’ and a hollerin’ … a right jolly olde tyme is a fixin’ ta commence, seems like.
Mind yer step, now, ‘cuz the big bulls have just been through here …
DW
I’m off the the pediatrician, so I can’t post the rest of the meeting tweets…
WikiLeaks Press@wlpress
OAS results: 23 in favor, 5 abstentions , 3 against. Ecuador’s proposal for a meeting of foreign ministers has been approved
(meeting adjourned)
sorry, i haven’t been keeping up. in favor of what?
WikiLeaks Press@wlpress
Resolution to convene Foreign Ministers to address UK threats of inviolating the Ecuadorean embassy HAS BEEN APPROVED.
Thanks Kevin
Thanks marymin IL, I think this really important so if he can get there he can move around safely
thanks.
No live blog but I am about to post a kind of roundup on critical insights and developments of the day.
Thanks everyone for following along.
Why, I just can’t imagine such a thing, no I can’t.
I don’t if your still around but saw this earlier.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014197850
I wish the Russians would get more into this a little more since they might have the muscle to get him out of the country.
All of this should, properly, be the business of the United Nations.
Should the UN stay silent then there is little that may be expected of them, other than useless chatter …
I support the United Nations, as many here do, however, the UN should support reason and humanity even if the US chooses not to do so.
Russia’s involvement, jo6pac, is reasonable and proper, despite what some of the comments at that link suggest … the knee-jerk response of some or even many is a sad commentary on the people’s understanding. Manipulated and fearful as that “understanding” far too often is.
DW
Hungary 1956
Don’t be surprised if Colombia or Guatemala introduce a resolution in the UN Security Council, and other Latin American countries introduce action in the UN Human Rights Commission. There is an UNASUR meeting going on as well sometime today. So, Ecuador is rallying the entirety of Latin America to stand with it in any future action–and that action will most likely come in the UN.
And as a practical matter, the UK will have more to watch than just the Ecuadorian Embassy as this moves forward. It’s one thing to have an international incident with one country, and quite another with an entire continental region. The neo-colonial overtones in the UK’s attitude is not winning friends among the countries that were at onetime in the not so distant past colonies or European countries.