
Maj. Ashden Fein cross-examines Bradley Manning on Nov. 30 (Sketch by Clark Stoeckley)
6:20 PM EST Staff Sgt. Ryan Jordan took the stand. He observed Manning and looks like Andre the Giant. Sitting in the witness stand, he must be at the level of the judge when he turns to look at her. And keep in mind the judge’s bench is higher than the witness stand.
Okay, we’re done for the day. I’m behind in my reports on testimony, but I’ll catch up in the coming week.
6:16 PM EST Free Speech Radio News interviewed me yesterday. Listen here.
5:28 PM EST Sgt. Fuller acknowledged during cross-examination by the defense that removal of visitors from the visitors list by Manning was a factor in keeping him on POI status the week after. He had removed 18 people, 15 who had never visited him. Sgt. Fuller never bothered to figure out why the 3 people who had visited were removed. Fuller acknowledge he knew next to nothing about Manning’s decision to remove visitors.
5:25 PM EST Sgt. Fuller continues to give testimony. Key is Fuller’s admission based on paperwork from Classification & Assignment Board meetings and documentation (which determined Manning’s confinement status each week) that the board members were considering poor home conditions/family relationships and severity of charges as factors. These are two of three factors he could not do anything about.
4:00 PM EST Sgt. Fuller’s testimony became increasingly critical as Coombs cross-examined him. What Fuller is arguing is Manning was distant and withdrawn in his cell. This behavior was part of decisions to keep him on POI status. But, apparently, it never occurred to Fuller that being in his cell 23 hours a day made him engage in this behavior.
He wanted Manning to talk to him more but never told him to talk to him more. He also never told him not talking indicated he might pose a risk of harm to himself.
3:50 PM EST Gunnery Sgt. William Fuller has taken the stand. He testified, “A lot of times” what he heard from officers was that Manning “didn’t communicate as much later on in his confinement as he did in the beginning.”
1:30 PM EST When Lance Corporal Joshua Tankersly was asked if Manning was an “average detainee” by David Coombs, he said, “It’s hard to put average on such a high profile case. And added, “When you have all the higher ups ,” come in who don’t even live on the base to “check if everything is okay.”
1:00 PM EST On lunch break — Lance Corporal Jonathan Cline and Lance Corporal Joshua Tankersley each gave testimony about a January 18, 2011 incident they were involved in that has played a prominent role in the proceedings. Both were removed from duty after the incident where Manning says he fainted in a room with fitness equipment and then quickly got up and ran behind a machine because he thought officers were lunging at him to hurt him.
Sgt. William Fuller will be testifying this afternoon right after lunch. He removed them and, according to Cline, Fuller told both them they had “intimidated” Manning.
Original Post
In an “unlawful pretrial punishment” hearing, the government will continue to present its argument that it was justified in holding Pfc. Bradley Manning in the confinement conditions, which he was held in at Quantico Marine Brig.
The government intends to call Lance Corporal Joshua Tankersley, Lance Corporal Jonathan Cline, Gunnery Sergeant William Fuller, Staff Sergeant Ryan Jordan and now Master Sergeant Craig Blenis. They are all guards at Quantico that handled Manning during his confinement.
As a military legal matter expert explained, the government has to prove there was a “legitimate government objective” to justify having him designated a maximum custody detainee, classified on prevention of injury status or placed on suicide risk. The defense has a “very low threshold” for proving “unlawful pretrial punishment.” They can prove he was intentionally mistreated or they can simply show the conditions he was held in were so egregious that it was “tantamount to punishment.” (*This is what the defense spent the last four days essentially doing.)
If the defense meets a low threshold and the government has no justification for the conditions detailed by defense witnesses, the judge will have to find for the defense. She would have to determine when specifically “unlawful pretrial punishment” occurred and go through the timeline of events at Quantico and decide how to factor that into any relief awarded—like crediting time served.
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Here are a few additional tidbits from Manning’s testimony to share:
—After Manning was first detained in Iraq, a female soldier he knew came to him in the quarters where he was being held and he handed her his Gmail password and also asked if she had any books he could read. She checked his account to see if there were any important messages and then gave him a copy of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo to read.
—In Kuwait, when he first contacted his aunt, he asked her to update his Facebook page. She posted a message that said, “Some of you might have heard I have been arrested for unauthorized disclosure…” The defense objected to this question saying they didn’t understand the relevance. Maj. Ashden Fein said it was relevant because when Manning left Iraq he was out of it. Judge Army Col. Denise Lind allowed the question and Manning wound up explaining, “I told her to put a posting up to let everyone know I was alive and well. My concern was if I am gone 72 hours someone might think I might’ve gotten killed or injured.”
—Manning shared how he did not really want photos from his Facebook spreading all over the Internet. He contemplated deleting his Facebook account but did not after he realized everything had already been copied “exactly verbatim.”
—Manning said from the stand: “From a case management point, I wanted a proper court martial. Court of public opinion was not where I wanted this to all take place.” That may be what Manning thinks now or what his lawyer, David Coombs, has led him to believe. It should be made clear that Coombs wanted to do publicity and chose to stop and limit the information coming out about the case to postings on his blog.
I have a report up here on a part of the testimony Manning gave in court yesterday. It specifically focuses on “voluntary statements” he was ordered to sign. (So, clearly, they were not all that voluntary.)




87 Comments

Confirmation of pen and paper.
After seeing how the Military and Gvt. have worked I can’t help but think this is intentional.
I was right! $&%%#!
How much more shame can they project in the military? This is beyond even pretense!
Anybody have an idea why FORT MEADE would have power and connectivity problems?
Why would a Gvt. facility not be up and running with no glitches? Is this not a sign of ill preparedness and planning? What does this say to the world?
While we are waiting you might like to watch, “Ethos” on LinkTV. It airs at 12:00 p.m. eastern time. It will help to provide a glimpse of some of the reasons we call foreign occupations a war on some unattainable cause.
Greg Mitchell has this: Manning’s Attorney, David Coombs will speak publicly on Monday.
http://gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.com/2012/12/bradley-mannings-attorney-speaks-out.html
Er, yeah… Because Manning proceedings are going on and they’ve been eventful.
Heh! Yeah. Keep the world from watching.
Poor, babes. They had to suffer didn’t they—not!
KEVIN,
Can you elaborate on the power issues and why the Judge demanded no devices?
Trying to get clarification on electric and communication issues.
Yet he had silverwear guards, voluntary document guards, Dentist’s playing psychologist, and the list goes on!
It makes a lot of sense to me why Manning wanted to stay away from media. He’s in the insulated world of the military and was going to be tried by the military. Manning probably figured that Coombs was exactly right about keeping quiet and not rocking he boat. That seems to be what brings the best results in that culture. Shut up and keep a low profile and maybe, just maybe Manning would get out of solitary confinement. Maybe someday Manning would get out of jail even…
Tee-Hee! ;-D
Got It!
Well doesn’t that reek of psychological manipulation?! Keeps Manning unbalanced and therefore more of “suicide risk”.
Yes!
Thanks for being here, reading, and commenting.
Yeah, Prosecution is not doing well trying to prove they didn’t keep Manning in torture type situations.
I’m following your posts here rather than on twitter, it’s easier. Thanks for “littering”. Heehee.
Great! Ha, I can really mess up a section with Live Blogging.
Hardly.
So…Where’s Lamo today I wonder? On a bender perhaps?
Okay, their lunch break is over and they are going back into court.
I have no idea where’s Lamo. LOL
If he is on a bender I hope it takes more than a morning liquor shot to rid him of the pain.
I’m going to take a short break. Will be back after a dog walk.
Thank you so much for this! If you go to the link, you’ll find out he’s speaking at 7 pm in DC, doors open at 6pm. Places can register to offer public screenings.
IT WILL BE LIVE STREAMED!
As there were no screenings listed for Austin, I’ve just now contacted MonkeyWrench Books in Austin to see if they’ll live stream it and register as a public screening and send an email out to their list about it.
Wow!
Kewl.
Sorry, the link at 5 only takes you to an announcement.
Here’s the link to the details. Scroll down to find a link to the live stream and another link if you want to watch it at a public screening. If there’s no public screening in your area, maybe you’d want to see about setting one up.
YAVW! Very, very welcome!
YIKES! Then Blenis needs to stand attention naked in the court room!
OMG!!!!!!!
Who was Blenis’s CO?
Try this transcript:
http://www.alexaobrien.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/alexa/managed-mt/mt-search.cgi?blog_id=2&tag=Gunnery%20Sergeant%20Blenis%20at%20Quantico&limit=20
I don’t know the name unless it is Fein.
Hell, it might even be the judge! At this point I wouldn’t put anything past them.
Oooof. That’s hard to follow. Alexa O’Brien is weedy, like EW. I’m a mere mortal.
Not a single one of those asses questioned why Manning was naked, didn’t have toilet tissue, or why he could not see sunlight!
I’ve put the question into the sphere. We may have an answer soon.
This PBS Transcript gives the name of somebody Blenis said Manning pissed off. That might be his CO.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/wikileaks/bradley-manning/brian-manning/
Could be Brig Operations Officer, MSG Papakie
Master Sargent Papakie is probably one of those witnesses that the Govt. refused to allow for defense.
Here we go!
No wonder Coombs did a comb through on Fuller!
So this Big, Macho, Brig commanders and sargents got all weak-kneed over protests outside and decided to let Manning have it in the worst way.
They brought in the Silverwear Guard, the Toilet Paper Guard, the Naked attention drill, and the
DentistPsychologist, along with the Gunnery Voluntary Statement officer to order Manning around in his sunless, 8 x 8 cell. Yet, they were sooooo skeerd he might suicide on a pillow!Man!
We got some real thinkers at Quantico.
Fact is stranger than fiction, that’s for sure!
Yeah, I figured as much and reason why I said Manning was probably afraid they would beat his naked body to death!
Harrumph! Manning is a better man than all at Quantico.
Oooo! Gonna be good!
Bbbut, isn’t that his job?
I missed those reports.
hey, peasantparty! thanks for this liveblog — lots of details we’d miss w/o your work.
much appreciated!
So glad my Father is no longer living to see this! It would kill him before his time.
(((Karen))))
I’m broke as a boulder in the quarry, but love to contribute this way.
Get a decent meal and some well deserved rest, Kevin. And, again, thank you for keeping this out front.
I gotta rest up for the Blenis part of this shift the blame story tomorrow. It’s gonna be seriously good.
we’re lucky to have you; it’s a huge contribution to keep the narrative flowing as you do.
all the “instant details” you provide make it feel like we’re there.
by all means rest up, peasantparty; i’m sooo looking forward to the next installment of the ongoing saga.
thanks, again!
I’m preparing an open letter to Sen. Mark Begich, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Personnel. Back in March 2010, a number of us wrote to him, requesting he investigate Manning’s Quantico Brig treatment, and consider joining Rep. Kucinich in seeking to visit Manning.
He replied. His reply indicates he may have been lied to by a person or people in the military from whom he sought information on Manning’s treatment.
Manning’s testimony and testimony of others at Ft. Meade indicate strongly that Manning was intentionally tortured, beginning in Kuwait, and not ending until his transfer to Ft. Leavenworth.
Am I right that if Sen. Begich was deliberately misinformed about the reasons for Manning’s treatment in the late winter and early spring of 2010, the party or parties who misinformed him violated 18 USC § 1001?
Or he was told the truth and didn’t convey that to you.
I doubt that was the case, but there is always that chance.
Citizens need to strongly encrypt all of their private communications (we need to write laws to help in this regard) and we need to ensure total state transparency (again through law with good enforcement) on all states so that everything they do is public short of what would infringe upon what should legitimately be construed as private like witness protection data. But no more allowing states to enforce corporate secrets not for military technology and not for national security (not that states would be volunteering it but if they lost it no legal recourse for them) protection would be for individual privacy not secrecy. It’s time for intellectual property to change in a way that doesn’t allow enforcement of NDAs etc. As we go to shine a permanent light into every area of states and reverse the panoptic to protect our privacy and best basis for rights it’s also time to stop accepting foolish arguments in favor of secrecy that supposes various justifications involving: launch codes, tactical plans, Manhattan projects, ticking time bombs.
Very simply our lives get strong privacy protection and encryption and the state gets total transparency applied to it. Because we the people cannot govern without both and state will devolve into elitest uselessness or worse if it’s not this way.
Thank you, Kevin. Appreciate all you are doing here and off-site to get this story told.